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To think this dinner is acceptable?

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chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 16:58

My toddler who is 2.5 had a cod fish finger sandwich for tea and 2 more fish finger on the side, he finished the whole thing and I gave him some Jaffa cakes and a banana sucky yogurt thing, that he's eating just now, DH is just home from work and asked what ds had for tea, I told him what he had and he seems to think it's not enough for a growing 2.5 year old.

He can be very fussy and I'm thinking it's a win that he ate that much at all but I'm being made feel horrible by DH. Please let me know if you think this is enough for a toddlers tea?

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Anyotherdude · 09/11/2024 09:36

Marvellous! DH can do the cooking from now on, if he’s that bothered…

StormingNorman · 09/11/2024 09:30

Thefaceofboe · 08/11/2024 19:36

Obviously not or the OP would have said so?

My fish finger sandwiches have lettuce in. Could be that the OP didn’t list out every ingredient in the sandwich.

But you do you boo x

Brananan · 09/11/2024 02:41

buffyspikefaith · 08/11/2024 23:07

@Brananan my friend has never eaten a fruit or vegetable in his life, he's 54 and incredibly healthy and currently top in his age range for a sport
He does now take shots of greens powders but still not even a piece of lettuce or onion or a grape is eaten

He's very unusual. I don't think any health advice anywhere would recommend that approach.

OneBadKitty · 08/11/2024 23:37

Sounds too much for a 2.5 year old to me. 4 fish fingers?

Granted, my dd was petite for her age but don't think she would have eaten more than 1 fishfinger, 3-5 chunky chips and a spoonful of peas at that age. My DH will only eat four fish fingers with chips and peas and he's a grown man!

Saz12 · 08/11/2024 23:35

I wonder if some posters understand that OP's child has diabetes - so its controlled by "predicting" carb intake. once you've added the expected insulin needs (based on predicted carb intake) you need to then get your fickle toddler to eat that amount of carbs.

He's 2.

My ones are teens now, but my memory of meals at that age is along the lines of eating only the veg for a week. Then no veg, just MEAT. Then potatoes and yoghurt for a month. Then only cauliflower...IE totally unpredictable.

Saschka · 08/11/2024 23:26

Megifer · 08/11/2024 17:28

Im dead serious. And instead of carb heavy bread slice an aubergine wafer thin to use as a wrap instead.

Just the one fish finger mind, that's enough processed food for one meal.

Aubergine? That’s technically a fruit. Think of the sugar content! No, you need thin wafers of beetroot, woven into a basket shape and then lined with endive. My two year old will eat nothing else!

CrowleyKitten · 08/11/2024 23:19

viques · 08/11/2024 17:50

I hope there was proper butter and Mayo in the fish finger sandwich, if not then I cannot approve of the very poor food habits you are instilling into your child OP. This is the sort of thing that leads to teenagers insisting on putting ketchup on their bacon sandwiches instead of brown sauce.

Early condiment training for toddlers is never given the discussion space on MN that it deserves, it’s a hugely neglected area in childcare and I think it is up to all of us who care to ensure that it is kept to the forefront of our thinking.

I mean, yes, we should stone people that put ketchup instead of brown sauce on their bacon butties, but everyone knows it should be Tartar sauce, not mayo on a fish finger buttie. maybe at a push, for a younger palate, or if you've run out of tartar sauce, some salad cream.

(oh, and for the record, if you have a sandwich toaster, cook some fish fingers, sandwich them with tartar sauce, and THEN sandwich toast it, it's AMAZING.

Grammarnut · 08/11/2024 23:13

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 08/11/2024 17:43

@Grammarnut it says in the OP that the kid is fussy.

Just realised. Also diabetic. In which case meal is still ok. Carbs etc have to be counted.

Minniliscious · 08/11/2024 23:12

Bloody hell, the judgemental comments on here are absolutely ridiculous 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sounds absolutely fine OP 👍

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 23:10

Wordau · 08/11/2024 22:54

Sounds like enough to me but you'll probably know best based on his appetite.

On your later posts, one of my DC ate amazingly as a toddler! Would eat quinoa with kale and butternut squash, fish with fennel and dill, even caviar. A bit fussier now though.

That's fantastic, I have a 1 year old who loves veg and eats roast parsnips at breakfast. My eldest (who the post is about) has become more fussy for the last 6 months.

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buffyspikefaith · 08/11/2024 23:07

@Brananan my friend has never eaten a fruit or vegetable in his life, he's 54 and incredibly healthy and currently top in his age range for a sport
He does now take shots of greens powders but still not even a piece of lettuce or onion or a grape is eaten

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 23:07

Saz12 · 08/11/2024 23:03

One of mine lived on fresh air at that age. She only started to eat normal amounts at about 8 years old, but now is training for a national sports team and eats everything.

I guess yours has.the type of insulin pump where you put in carbs 15 mins before he eats? So ypu kind of have to get a similar amount of carbs into him as you'd planned. Very difficult at that age I imagine.

Obviously you want.them to eat unprocessed home cooked veg-and-fish-wirh-brown-rice. He probably will eventually!

He's not on the insulin pump just yet, we are on a waiting list to get it on nhs. He gets pen injections 10-15 minutes before eating. It's so hard sometimes because he eats like a horse one day then as you say lives on fresh air the next. We give him insulin then he won't eat the healthy options I provide and have to just settle for the things I know he'll eat, just so he doesn't take a hypo.

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Saz12 · 08/11/2024 23:03

One of mine lived on fresh air at that age. She only started to eat normal amounts at about 8 years old, but now is training for a national sports team and eats everything.

I guess yours has.the type of insulin pump where you put in carbs 15 mins before he eats? So ypu kind of have to get a similar amount of carbs into him as you'd planned. Very difficult at that age I imagine.

Obviously you want.them to eat unprocessed home cooked veg-and-fish-wirh-brown-rice. He probably will eventually!

LizzoBennett · 08/11/2024 23:03

As PPs said, it's enough calorie-wise. As a one off it is fine but fast food every week is not good, for any child of any age. I'm a mum to a 4 year old and a 1 year old for context. So I understand that children can be tricky sometimes but your child will end up with unhealthy eating habits if you aren't conscious of UPFs creeping into his diet more and more...

Aurorora · 08/11/2024 22:59

Seems enough food. Where’s the veg?

Scirocco · 08/11/2024 22:59

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:47

😂😂 ive never been so shocked. Genuinely only wanted to know if I had been under nourishing my child this afternoon! Your think I has said I gave him 3 grains of rice and a cat turd.

Was it an ultra-processed cat turd? Or hand-sourced from the litter tray of a kitty fed on an organic raw food diet?

Wordau · 08/11/2024 22:55

UPFs are a worry though. You have to actively avoid them in order to make a difference as they are everywhere.

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/04/uk-toddlers-get-nearly-half-their-calories-from-ultra-processed-food-study-finds

Wordau · 08/11/2024 22:54

Sounds like enough to me but you'll probably know best based on his appetite.

On your later posts, one of my DC ate amazingly as a toddler! Would eat quinoa with kale and butternut squash, fish with fennel and dill, even caviar. A bit fussier now though.

NicoleSkidman · 08/11/2024 22:48

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:37

Definitely not! I make everything from scratch
Most of the time.

I think perhaps you misunderstand what is meant by ultra-processed food. If you look at the ingredients on the food he’s eating and it contains ingredients not found in a normal kitchen, then it’s processed. This means additives like sweeteners, emulsifiers and preservatives, as well as excessive salt and sugars. You will find these things in sliced bread, cheerios, special K, tomato ketchup, fast food. The list is endless.

Sadly over half of our diets come from ultra processed foods in the UK. Even things that appear healthy aren’t when you look at the ingredients.

It can be easy to make some switches though. Swap cereal for porridge, for example.

LaineyCee · 08/11/2024 22:48

Sounds like 700-800 calories. Perhaps even too much?

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:47

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 08/11/2024 22:45

OP, when it comes to these threads on Mumsnet, the foodie brigade is equivalent to a massive bull on steroids - and your meal plan is like a giant red flag covered in glitter. You could be feeding him homemade ratatouille with a side of wheatgrass and they'd still ask what oil you used and if you used an organic courgette. Just carry on with your fish and banana.

😂😂 ive never been so shocked. Genuinely only wanted to know if I had been under nourishing my child this afternoon! Your think I has said I gave him 3 grains of rice and a cat turd.

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chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:45

To everyone criticising DC tea one night out of many, please do not be afraid to send over some of your 100% organic non processed child friendly meals that your dc with palates of adults eat. I couldn't definitely learn something here. Tia

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SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 08/11/2024 22:45

OP, when it comes to these threads on Mumsnet, the foodie brigade is equivalent to a massive bull on steroids - and your meal plan is like a giant red flag covered in glitter. You could be feeding him homemade ratatouille with a side of wheatgrass and they'd still ask what oil you used and if you used an organic courgette. Just carry on with your fish and banana.

chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:37

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/11/2024 17:27

Sounds more than enough processed food (apart from banana) for a small child. He's fussy because he's fed rubbish.

Definitely not! I make everything from scratch
Most of the time.

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chiquititaa · 08/11/2024 22:36

This Friday he didn't get his usually kfc or McDonald's because he simply didn't want it.

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