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Not even a card!!

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Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 16:29

I recently got married and we had a gorgeous day with friends and family. My sister was matron of honour and her children were page boys. We didn’t ask for gifts as we are a bit older and have everything we need, however most of our guests were very generous and gave us cards/gifts/money etc. Everyone that is apart from my own sister - I was shocked to find that we didn’t even have a card from her and her family. My sister can be quite selfish at times and thinks the world revolves around her, however I feel this is another level - who doesn’t get their own sister a card on their wedding day? Every single other guest - even our evening guests came with a card. I thought maybe something had got lost so I messaged to ask her but she gave me some rubbish excuse about how she had accidentally taken it home with her and she would post it to us the next day - it has still not arrived. AIBU to be upset by this?

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stayathomer · 08/11/2024 20:33

I didn’t give my brother a card, we were strapped for cash at the time (they would never have known this) and I didn’t want to give a card with no money. For weeks and months I kept saying’oh I must give you your card’ and then finally I was buying gifts for a new baby instead. I really regret it but we just had zero to spare

bakewellbride · 08/11/2024 20:32

I actually remember a missing point from the story about my husband's brother. MIL bought him a card to give to us 'because she knows what he's like' and apparently he said no we don't do cards and binned it. You couldn't make it up with him 😂all he had to do was sign his name! He also doesn't acknowledge our children's birthdays in any way yet we always give his card, gift and money.

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:30

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 20:29

Are you my sister? 🤣

No, I’m not any of your other guests either.
Not sure what’s so hilarious about being this grabby, tbh?

Hillrunning · 08/11/2024 20:29

I wouldn't expect a card from a sister or any of my immediate family for my wedding and I'm 100% I didn't get any from my 4 sisters or 2 brothers. I'd actually think it odd. Cards for my wedding is what people who don't know me well would give.

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 20:29

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:18

If there had been nothing from one of your other guests, would you have questioned them on it, too, just in case it had gotten lost? (What are the chances?)

Are you my sister? 🤣

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Happiestwhen · 08/11/2024 20:26

That's extremely selfish of your sister and I imagine that she is jealous of you currently being in the limelight while hers has been long forgotten. I would be very upset about this tbh. If I were you I'd cool off on the contact with her , you don't need that negativity in your life. Also what planet are people on that they think this is ok? You completely went out of your way paying for everything. What an ungrateful b*h!!

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:24

You were still able to pinpoint who hadn't made the list, op 😂

bakewellbride · 08/11/2024 20:23

Some people are just like this op, don't dwell on it. My husband's brother didn't give anything on our wedding day either, no card, nothing and to add insult to injury he only attended because we paid for his taxi fare!

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 20:23

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:17

So you asked her indirectly 🤷🏻‍♀️
What’s the difference? You still trawled through the envelopes to make sure there was one from everybody, and then followed up on the one which was missing.

We made a list so that we could make sure that we thanked everyone individually for what they gifted us - because that is good manners. It wasn’t to “check off” who had and hadn’t sent us a card/gift 🙄

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pimplebum · 08/11/2024 20:20

pimplebum · Today 19:52
Bit shocked you asked her where here card is !
maybe she genuinely took it home she was busy and had kids after all
it may not be her top priority to post it to you fast, just a card
Thank you but please read the thread as I didn’t directly ask her where her card was - there were cards left on the table with money in and I initially asked as I was worried that a card had been lost amongst all the moving around etc. We are quite open with each other so believe me she would have no qualms about calling me out on something like this 😂. Maybe I am in the wrong and I’m being over -sensitive but I just couldn’t attend a wedding and not bring a card - I think it’s is really bad manners

I read your tread carefully. You asked her about the card to the point she had to reply and give you and explanation/ lie/ excuse

you asked !
she replied!

I do agree it’s etiquette to bring a card and you did for hers so bit odd that she didn’t so I would be inclined to believe her

StarSlinger · 08/11/2024 20:19

I wouldn't give it any head space. You sound a bit needy to me.

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:18

If there had been nothing from one of your other guests, would you have questioned them on it, too, just in case it had gotten lost? (What are the chances?)

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 20:17

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 20:03

Thank you but please read the thread as I didn’t directly ask her where her card was - there were cards left on the table with money in and I initially asked as I was worried that a card had been lost amongst all the moving around etc. We are quite open with each other so believe me she would have no qualms about calling me out on something like this 😂. Maybe I am in the wrong and I’m being over -sensitive but I just couldn’t attend a wedding and not bring a card - I think it’s is really bad manners

So you asked her indirectly 🤷🏻‍♀️
What’s the difference? You still trawled through the envelopes to make sure there was one from everybody, and then followed up on the one which was missing.

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 20:03

pimplebum · 08/11/2024 19:52

Bit shocked you asked her where here card is !
maybe she genuinely took it home she was busy and had kids after all
it may not be her top priority to post it to you fast, just a card

Thank you but please read the thread as I didn’t directly ask her where her card was - there were cards left on the table with money in and I initially asked as I was worried that a card had been lost amongst all the moving around etc. We are quite open with each other so believe me she would have no qualms about calling me out on something like this 😂. Maybe I am in the wrong and I’m being over -sensitive but I just couldn’t attend a wedding and not bring a card - I think it’s is really bad manners

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pimplebum · 08/11/2024 19:52

Bit shocked you asked her where here card is !
maybe she genuinely took it home she was busy and had kids after all
it may not be her top priority to post it to you fast, just a card

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 19:35

whatdoyouthink123456 · 08/11/2024 16:43

Of course that is unreasonable of your sister. It's thoughtless and bad manners to attend a wedding empty handed.

But Mumsnet is some weird corner of the world where 'you aren't entitled to anything and expecting anything from anyone is grabby'

Thank you! Yes I’m getting that! I wonder if I’d have worded it differently and asked “do you consider it rude to attend a wedding without a card or gift?” whether I would have had a different response?! I’ve literally seen posts where people are saying it is rude to not cover the value of your plate at weddings yet I’m grabby for being upset that my sister didn’t buy me a card - bizarre!

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GoldenSunflowers · 08/11/2024 19:33

Why would you expect a card? She was there and part of it all.

sophi1995 · 08/11/2024 19:32

My brother in law was my husband's best man. Didn't give us a card or a gift, he's generally not good for gifts although he does usually bring the kids home something small when he's been traveling. Really didn't phase me at all, he was there on the day and we all had a great time. I would have been mortified to message him and ask why he didn't give us a card but like I said, it really wasn't an issue for us at all.

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 19:29

TeachesOfPeaches · 08/11/2024 19:15

I would presume the amount of time invested by her whole family in the prep for your wedding would be worth far more than a card

They turned up on the day the same as all of the other guests - all of whom managed to come with a card. Only they had outfits, makeup, hair and accommodation paid for. Maybe it’s just me but I would never in a million years turn up to a wedding without a card/gift - let alone my own sisters 🤷‍♀️

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Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 19:26

SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 19:17

I can’t believe you messaged her to ask where your card was! 🤦‍♀️

It was carefully worded as cards were left on the table with money in and I was genuinely concerned that a card may have gone missing - considering they were quite literally the only people to not give a card out of every person to attend the wedding.

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SilverChampagne · 08/11/2024 19:17

I can’t believe you messaged her to ask where your card was! 🤦‍♀️

TeachesOfPeaches · 08/11/2024 19:15

I would presume the amount of time invested by her whole family in the prep for your wedding would be worth far more than a card

Foxblue · 08/11/2024 18:18

ginasevern · 08/11/2024 18:13

@Foxblue

"Another thing is, getting someone a card is a tradition - but it's not a tradition to everyone, and we are not all aware of everyone else's traditions, nor are we actually obliged to follow those traditions."

I imagine that the sister in this case is British born and bred and is also, obviously, a fully grown adult. She would be perfectly aware of the most mainstream traditions unless she's been locked up most of her life. She may not be aware of other culture's traditions, or really niche and obscure UK ones (like Cornish hurling or wife carrying for example), but buying a congratulatory card for a wedding does not fall into any of these "out there" categories. I've never been to a wedding where guests have been scratching their heads in bemusement about buying a card, or a gift, whilst saying "what is this strange tradition that they speak of".

I am British born and bred and I didn't know you were meant to take cards or presents to a wedding until my mother asked me what present I was taking to my friends wedding. I then also had no idea that people expected you to still bring a gift if you were in the wedding party. Clearly I hadn't paid attention to weddings on TV or in film up until that point, but other than that - I'm not sure how I would have learnt this information if someone didn't tell me! My parents didn't go to any weddings when I was a teen who might have paid attention to the fact they were taking a gift! I have met other people.like this too - you don't know what you don't know, after all!

ginasevern · 08/11/2024 18:13

@Foxblue

"Another thing is, getting someone a card is a tradition - but it's not a tradition to everyone, and we are not all aware of everyone else's traditions, nor are we actually obliged to follow those traditions."

I imagine that the sister in this case is British born and bred and is also, obviously, a fully grown adult. She would be perfectly aware of the most mainstream traditions unless she's been locked up most of her life. She may not be aware of other culture's traditions, or really niche and obscure UK ones (like Cornish hurling or wife carrying for example), but buying a congratulatory card for a wedding does not fall into any of these "out there" categories. I've never been to a wedding where guests have been scratching their heads in bemusement about buying a card, or a gift, whilst saying "what is this strange tradition that they speak of".

Abitmiffed1 · 08/11/2024 17:59

Foxblue · 08/11/2024 17:16

Okay before I read your update I was going to gently point out that some people genuinely don't know they 'should' get people cards or presents for weddings. Some people know they 'should' get cards or presents, but are under the impression if you are in the wedding party you don't need to, as after all they are doing extra above a regular guest.
Another thing is, getting someone a card is a tradition - but it's not a tradition to everyone, and we are not all aware of everyone else's traditions, nor are we actually obliged to follow those traditions. If you think about it objectively, at some point long ago, someone completely unrelated to any of us, decided it would be nice to get people a card for a wedding. This then turned into a practice, a tradition, an expectation. Except that person's got nothing to do with me or you, so we don't actually have an obligation to follow it. It's nice if we follow traditions, but assuming someone who isn't following a tradition is inherently rude or thoughtless is, if you think about it, not very logical!
Just a musing really - sounds like there are other problems with your sister.

Thank you - she definitely knows that it is polite to bring a card to a wedding. She is married and I gave her a card with money in for her wedding.

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