to think that children in your child's class don't identify as animals?

She is awesome @CollisionCourse and autistic, and very logical, has no time whatsoever for any nonsense 😁

I think that adults are currently centring children's "feelings" as if they are made of porcelain. Maybe it's some kind of guilt? Idk but people generally aren't good at risk assessment and the fact that news information comes at people 24/7 from a huge variety of sources makes that assessment even worse.

Then there's a sort of psychological blackmail that if you don't let children's feelings run unchecked then they will be forever psychologically damaged or worse

I've worked in a school for 12 years and I've never seen this.

Ah, thanks for the explanation. It does make sense that ASD kids could be more at risk of becoming seduced by trans/therian ideology. I am surprised schools allow not during school hours though, rather than encouraging the ASD kids to do it at home or at least to do it quietly and unobtrusively. Otherwise they may end up bullied as a result, which can be very damaging for them.

No there isn't a link between asd and trans other than the fact that people with asd are very literal and are often vulnerable to ideological coercesion.
When groups like mermaids and most asd charities come along and tell kids with asd that their not weird or different from other kids because of their asd but because they are trans and transing will cure their asd many will and do believe them. Add to all of that the fact that every child wants to fit in and those of us with asd find it even harder that nt teens then joining a group that praises you and elevates your social status and it's like catnip.
There is a big difference between causation and correlation that is lost on many people which is being exploited by TRAs and some very dodgy so called experts

There are furries in my Y8 child’s year, at least one of whom wears a tail. I think it is madness and can’t believe the school/parents allow it tbh.

My five year old identifies as the tooth fairy.

I didn't go to school expecting other people to call me Madonna. The world has gone fucking mad.

I think it's been proven that there is a link between trans and ASD, so probably true for this too. After all, it's all role play whether it's gender or animal related.

I wouldn't have an issue with kids doing this out of school tbh. I just think it's unnecessary in the classroom. The ASD kids can get their outlet at home or at theatre classes.

Is there not much doing up there in Scotland nowadays, kids are this desperate for something to do!? 😆

Your dd sounds great!

I saw a teenaged girl (probably about 15/16) dressed as a cat last summer running up and on all fours down the beach....

FFS...🤦🏻

There is a type of autism called PDA (Pathalogical Demand Avoidance Syndrome) and one of the features of it is role playing as a coping strategy. Kids with PDA often seem quite sociable, but they are mimicking other people rather than acting authentically.

My daughter has a diagnosis of PDA. As a child she roll played tv characters like Hannah Montana. But apparently role playing as an animal can be part of it too. These kids don't know who they are so they latch on to stereotypes and things like animals.

Dig further and a lotbof these kids are on the spectrum.

A moth 😂

Good on her. She's gonna make an excellent goth one day soon.

Is there something in the water up there, I wonder? It's all very odd.

Literally today my daughter got into trouble at school for staring agape into a class room with a number of pupils in it, dressed as cats and crawling on all fours.

A teacher got her into trouble for being 'homophobic' which started an argument about how thinking cat people are weird has nothing to do with being gay.

The teacher apparently gave up and walked away due to the fucking inescapable logic of what my daughter said.

This genuinely happened today, in Scotland.

It's not taking the piss. It's just not validating it or taking it seriously which is a good thing. Why do children identifying as animals need it validated ? Attention seeking like this is often helped by being ignored and allowed to take its course .

That was my thought.

I don't get why trans students are allowed to use their preferred gender in school? Why can't they be treated the same as the other students and do the trans thing outside of school? Tomboys at my all girls secondary school weren't allowed to present as boys, I wonder why it's different now?

The trouble is... grown ups aren't acting grown up any more.

There should be no patience for this in schools whatsoever.

I kind of miss the stiff upper lip tbh.

I know of a child who identified as a dragon and had a “lair” in the classroom to take “dragon naps” in.

That’s the only primary school age one I’ve heard of. But I often see teens wearing ears and tails hanging around the castle in the city I live in.

My kids are year 4 and year 8 and I’ve never heard of any furries in their schools.

when I was a mainstream teacher about ten years ago, I did have a year 4 child who used to go under the table and bark at people every now and again. Probably in this day and age she would be wearing a tail and ears and informing people she is a dog or a wolf.

I think it’s alarming schools in Scotland are teaching primary children about the therians. Schools are not the place for tails, animals ears etc.

Yer, I've heard about this therian stuff. I think it is absolutely crazy. Probably just a phase for most or attention seeking.

My daughter calls herself a Therian. She has therian friends. She makes masks and has a couple tails. She says she identifies as a silver fox, but she doesn't really understand what identifying as something actually means. She thinks it means she relates to the animal and likes it a lot.

She's certainly not wearing a tail or ears to school or anything though. She doesn't really do it at home either. She'll probably outgrow it soon knowing what she's like. Then it'll be on to the next obsession.

About half of the SEN/autism kids identify as trans, therian or furry.

I think the litter tray thing was media nonsense & never happened.

They do campaign for things like quadratic (or whatever it's called when they go over a dog agility course on all fours) to be allowed in PE. (It was refused but there's a lunch time group for it). Alot of the kids are addressed by their spirit animal name by other kids (but not teachers)

There was also.a few that were challenging the uniform policy as trans kids are allowed to dress as their preferred gender & the therian/furry argued that it was the same as allowing them to wear tails as therian/furry are equal to trans. The school refused but they are allowed to wear tails on non uniform days & to lgbtqia+ club.

I saw a few tails on kids coming out of school on a recent non uniform day.

It does put schools in a tricky situation where they have made allowances for trans kids as it's then hard to refuse the same for therian/furries.

Just glad none of mine went down that route & hope Cass has highlighted some of the issues.