Private Schools- hear me out before you judge!

Just not one that’s going to make any money.

Then when this exclusive catchment catches attention, like when sr politicians kids attend … admissions gets social engineered by council to make sure it looks “right”. Just the right % on free school meals, just the right amount of diversity ….

It’s highly unlikely that a child in an independent school that has significant SEN doesn’t have all the reports etc necessary so they won’t arrive at state school needing to join the queue for EP etc. Many are shed from private schools and most local schools know this. The change in fees will not have changed that. Adjustments are always stretching but this should resolve in time. I think it’s an excellent development.

Well if that’s true then campaign to make your school funding system more equitable.

Exactly.

and in fact it’s clearly higher than that 10% already and that doesn’t even include those that won’t ‘join up’ .

Labour should have asked those experienced in this area,but instead, they asked a mate.( as you say in pp, I didn’t know that ) Why? Because anyone with actual knowledge and experience won’t fudge the figures …. unlike mates

They’re all the same
Blatant lies to the electorate

@Ohthatsabitshit quote above this post is rubbish. Fee paying schools don't accept children with additional needs? Our school has a full 27% of children with SEN. Like I said earlier, I am also an exam invigilator for the school as well as a parent in the school with SEN and LDs. I really know what I am talking about. Some fucking joker when this was first starting to be discussed on Mn said 'Oh just get an EHCP that names the school as the right school and you won't have to pay VAT... I cant believe you have not done that already'. What a profoundly stupid comment. Very very many of us put our kids in an indy because they provide for their needs. Mine has been in the same school since the age of 4. I did not need to burden the LA with mucking around with applying for an EHCP because we sorted it all out ourselves on our own dime. We have done pretty much everything privately because we are fully aware of the pressure on state finances and can pay for it ourselves. I have a cousin who is very scathing about us going private but she and her DH strategically moved house to a better catchment area, yet we are the immoral ones for being honest enough to pay?

I think it’s a good move, but I have never thought fee paying schools should be VAT free or have charity status. It’s a better policy for our country I think.

It's the IFS who "ommitted" certain key elements however they have now put on record not to expect the policy to bring in any money 🙄
The ISC represent Indy schools and in their survey of schools + parents they gave the 10% which was jeered at by many on here. Looks like they had it exactly right.

Only 8% of Starmer cabinet private school educated …. Which might explain a few things

Yes I remember the MN threads saying none of this would happen
Not that many kids would leave.
They deserve it…..nice😳

The ISC are lying.

‘ How will these new kids take uni places away from kids who never had private education.’
I don’t see how Uni entry will change like this

We had flagged all of this 18 months ago yet were told we were lying/exaggerating.
Labour refused to engage with the sector because they knew the numbers didn't add up.

No VAT on university fees? Or tutors? Or many other services?
selling it in the finances was ridiculous as there was no consideration of the actual picture and it was obvious to many it wouldn’t yield what was proposed, another Brexit!

The IFS report that Labour have used to base this shower of shit policy on was compiled by Luke Sibieta.
Luke is Matthew Pennycook’s best mate who is a Labour MP and was a key player in the implementation of the proposal.
It’s a report that didn’t accurately account for anything, especially the retrospective reclaim of VAT for projects etc.

On another MN there a lot of people would be so happy for OP’s opportunity to be on the front lines of reducing inequality.
Those private school kids enriching your school and not making “connections”. And the “more teachers” and “fixing crumbling” school £££ will be pouring in to your school.

OP makes same ££ regardless of class size, so that’s great too.
Now these new kids will try to take Uni places from kids who never had private school … make sure you don’t let that happen!

Anyone with half a brain could foresee this happening. The reality is that private school and private health care takes pressure off the state systems.

I will never, ever afford private school for my child, but I'm sick of the jealousy of people that can. The sooner people accept that life isn't fair and turn their efforts towards how they can improve their own lot, rather than sabotaging other people's, the better!

Wow

0%. Well Labour aren’t known for being any good at maths and this is yet another example.

Labour said the ISC were using scaremongering tactics when they predicted that 10% …. Clearly not so

Exactly right. So much hyperbole.

55600 is 10% of the population in Indy schools
Yes that's now the predicted %
At 10% that will bring in net £0 for the Treasury

It will be fairer because those that wish to pay for education will be paying vat like other services. We then use our taxes to fund public services.
Fee paying schools have always shed children with additional needs into the state system so those joining are unlikely to come with high needs.

Only 12% are net providers and that figure really needs to increase if the country, nhs, schools, everything is to function on even a minimal level.

I completely get where you are coming from.
I ll pay what I have to but I’m sick of the hate.

Thats more than 10% of the Indi population ( plus of course those who won’t start )
That’s three times Labours predictions when they spoke of this policy before the election. ( they didn’t actually ask schools or parents though )

The ISC stated nearer this figure. They did survey the schools.

Indeed@AngsanaFlower I pay fuckloads of tax. We are top 10% of income. And am slightly tired of being told we are just rich bastards with the 'broadest shoulders' so should pay more and more and more.

I'd like to think someone, somewhere would say 'thanks for being a net contributor'.
Anyway, fuck it. I'm out. My family is out. I refuse to engage any more or pay anymore and we are off.

Over 20000 left this term + predicted a further 40000 by July PLUS the % who changed their mind after July and didn't start or won't start in Sept 25