Private Schools- hear me out before you judge!

Well I guess well done for guessing right on that one.

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His SEN is mot limited and it is catered for very well by his Indy. He had brain damage thanks to a very badly mismanaged birth and although he is 14 chronologically he is aged about 11 mentally. He has a recorded IQ (two separate tests 12 months apart of 63- and 65. The school deal with him very well and are exceptionally accommodating. Although they have already warned us he is not going to get through GCSEs. The pastoral care is exceptionally good. They are very good at allowing us massive flexibility for him coming in and going home on days he can and cannot cope. The school is costing is £25,000 a year and he is relatively happy and content.

The latter is what we are paying for.

Are you moving country? That's sad

Thought as much!

Nope I’m happy with where it sits now.

Do you then think that this should be extended to all extracurricular activities and tuition? Swimming lessons, music lessons, drama clubs etc….

And Luke was his best man. They lived together at one point

You are joking about the reports … right? Local SEN will make wait for an assessment, refuse private assessments and put them at back of the queue.

Indeed@AngsanaFlower I pay fuckloads of tax. We are top 10% of income. And am slightly tired of being told we are just rich bastards with the 'broadest shoulders' so should pay more and more and more.

I'd like to think someone, somewhere would say 'thanks for being a net contributor'.
Anyway, fuck it. I'm out. My family is out. I refuse to engage any more or pay anymore and we are off.

Luke [Sibieta] is Matthew Pennycook’s best mate who is a Labour MP and was a key player in the implementation of the proposal.

Thats quite a stretch.

Pennycook is the minister for the department that will oversee the removal
of business rates relief, and not the VAT proposal. The Scottish Government removed business rates relief from independent schools a few years ago, nothing to do with Sibieta or Pennycook.

It's a real shame you think that.
93% of kids are not in private schools and at least some of those are getting a good education, my own kids included.

There is ONE day in the year that the funding is calculated on and that day has gone!
We won’t be getting extra funding, we won’t be getting extra TA’s. We will have bigger classes. No children are going to benefit. Education should NEVER be taxed, it’s a tax on children.
All the local schools in my area rely on the private school to host sport activities, theatre events, swimming lessons and translating when we receive pupils who don’t speak English. Apart from the swimming they charge us NOTHING. Well guess what, that’s all about to change!
I loathe the ‘Well if we can’t afford it no one should have it’ attitude. It’s pathetic. No one benefits. I hope all the jealous state school parents are happy now!

What?
Children already at state schools are just as much 'victims'.

My daughter went to a private sen secondary school paid for by her ehc. Most parents couldn't self fund this school - the fees are enormous, partly due to the on site speech and language therapists, occupational therspists etc. Nearly all the children had ehc plans as a result.

This is a bit different to private schools taking kids with dyslexia for example.

Tbh if your child qualifies for an ehc, it is probably better to be in the state system and get one. The ehc goes up to age 25 and is useful for post 16 education (unless the yp goes to university).

Lots of kids with sen don't need ehc plans of course. Their needs can be met in mainstream state schooling through the sen budget.

Most private schools don't have a sen budget and parents have to fund on top of the fees for anything the school needs. And most private schools won't take on kids with significant additional needs anyway.

So if a child's sen is being catered for at a n ordinary private school, I suspect that the sen is limited tbh.

And Luke was his best man. They lived together at one point

@Ohthatsabitshit quote above this post is rubbish. Fee paying schools don't accept children with additional needs? Our school has a full 27% of children with SEN. Like I said earlier, I am also an exam invigilator for the school as well as a parent in the school with SEN and LDs. I really know what I am talking about. Some fucking joker when this was first starting to be discussed on Mn said 'Oh just get an EHCP that names the school as the right school and you won't have to pay VAT... I cant believe you have not done that already'. What a profoundly stupid comment. Very very many of us put our kids in an indy because they provide for their needs. Mine has been in the same school since the age of 4. I did not need to burden the LA with mucking around with applying for an EHCP because we sorted it all out ourselves on our own dime. We have done pretty much everything privately because we are fully aware of the pressure on state finances and can pay for it ourselves. I have a cousin who is very scathing about us going private but she and her DH strategically moved house to a better catchment area, yet we are the immoral ones for being honest enough to pay?

It’s highly unlikely that a child in an independent school that has significant SEN doesn’t have all the reports etc necessary so they won’t arrive at state school needing to join the queue for EP etc. Many are shed from private schools and most local schools know this. The change in fees will not have changed that. Adjustments are always stretching but this should resolve in time. I think it’s an excellent development.

Luke [Sibieta] is Matthew Pennycook’s best mate who is a Labour MP and was a key player in the implementation of the proposal.

Thats quite a stretch.

Pennycook is the minister for the department that will oversee the removal
of business rates relief, and not the VAT proposal. The Scottish Government removed business rates relief from independent schools a few years ago, nothing to do with Sibieta or Pennycook.

It’s highly unlikely that a child in an independent school that has significant SEN doesn’t have all the reports etc necessary so they won’t arrive at state school needing to join the queue for EP etc. Many are shed from private schools and most local schools know this. The change in fees will not have changed that. Adjustments are always stretching but this should resolve in time. I think it’s an excellent development.

It’s highly unlikely that a child in an independent school that has significant SEN doesn’t have all the reports etc necessary so they won’t arrive at state school needing to join the queue for EP etc. Many are shed from private schools and most local schools know this. The change in fees will not have changed that. Adjustments are always stretching but this should resolve in time. I think it’s an excellent development.