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To stay in a marriage because of how upset 14 year old DS has a?

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AlwaysConfuzzled · 07/11/2024 17:53

DS has ADHD and struggles with hid emotions

DD is 12 ASD and doesn’t have a close relationship with dad ( he suspects he is also ASD as they are so similar which actually makes their relationship a difficult one )

After a good few years of trying to make the marriage work, I have become very depressed and emotionally wrecked to the point I have asked for a divorce

DH doesn’t see why the fact he never wants to talk to me, doesn’t enjoy doing anything with me ( or DS really unless it’s a shared hobby ) doesn’t emotionally support me in any way and whenever I get upset tells me I’m being ridiculous, show any affection unless he wants sex would mean that I don’t want to be with him anymore

We broke up 5 years ago for a year and lived together as he wouldn’t leave and I couldn’t afford to leave and it was hell

DS is begging me to try again, says he will never forgive me and that I have ruined his life 😢

I feel sick with worry every minute of the day now

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Artistbythewater · 16/11/2024 07:20

This is lot a marriage op, it’s a loveless, joyless prison sentence.

You have already stayed too long and wasted five precious years with this man.

You need to be much firmer with your son, and tell him nothing will change. Both parents will continue to love and care for him but you will not remain married. He does not get to force you to stay in a relationship that is blatantly so harmful.

You will be showing him by example what is expected to maintain relationships. Affection, love and interest is STANDARD in relationships op and not a huge ask at all. Please end this marriage and explain to them how most relationships remain healthy and happy. In time, you might meet someone and show them in person.

You have put up with too much already, no wonder you are depressed.

JMSA · 16/11/2024 06:51

Hi OP. You absolutely cannot stay in this marriage Flowers
But the living arrangements sound very messy indeed and will be confusing emotionally for the children.
I wish I could wave a magic wand for you Sad and wish you all the best x

littlehorsesthatrun · 16/11/2024 06:46

AlwaysConfuzzled · 08/11/2024 05:55

Sorry my initial post was rushed and I missed a lot of detail out
To answer the replies ( thank you for those ) we will be basically sharing the house but not being in it at the same time
50% of the week I will be living with my sister ( 2 evenings and Saturday all day ) and the others he will be living with his parents

Neither of us can afford an additional property anywhere near this area so until the children finish their schooling it will be like this

DH wants to stay living together full time but as i said we did split up 5 years ago and cohabited and the atmosphere was absolutely awful - horrible comments and questioning every move I made if I left the house at all

There hasn’t been intentional over sharing but because there have been constant bickering arguments ( not full blown screaming or anything like that ) DS thinks I’m completely unreasonable for not “ trying again “
i guess the fact he also remembers the split before an then us trying again also makes him feel like that is an option

The guilt is completely consuming me 😢

If your son has ASD, he will be very anxious at the unknown of what will happen and very affected by time away from you. Change will be hard for him, even harder than neurotypical children. Can you be very clear and outline what will happen- what his routine will look like? Can you minimise separation from you if possible. His outbursts and telling you you will ruin his life are very typical of ASD and helping him with transition will help. You can’t stay with your husband because of it.

AlwaysConfuzzled · 16/11/2024 06:30

Yes so the plan is that he will visit the children 3 evenings a week and then a Friday all night until Saturday evening

He doesn’t have a safe place to have them as his mum has severe mental health issues so I didn’t feel it was fair to say he can’t see the kids here

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Gingerlingerlonger · 16/11/2024 06:15

Regarding the 50/50 part.

Did you mean you are going to have to leave the house when he is not at work because that's what it sounds like. Fuck that.

OrangeSlices998 · 16/11/2024 06:08

You deserve happiness and the kids will benefit enormously from not being in a tense home with bickering and having a mum whose struggling with that.

A 12 year old isn’t old enough to understand the complexities of marriage and your own wellbeing, you can’t make a decision based on his wants when it comes to your marriage. He’s allowed his feelings about it but ultimately you haven’t done anything wrong! Look at counselling/support for him if you think he will engage.

AlwaysConfuzzled · 16/11/2024 06:02

He’s leaving tomorrow
i feel such guilt

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Caroparo52 · 11/11/2024 13:37

You can't stay locked into a dead marriage because ds is blackmailing you emotionally. It will be better for everyone eventually if you are happy yourself .

AlwaysConfuzzled · 11/11/2024 13:27

Yes he works full time
The 50% of the time will be evenings and weekends

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SilverChampagne · 11/11/2024 13:06

AlwaysConfuzzled · 08/11/2024 07:39

I’ve seen a solicitor
Theres physically no way for us both to afford accommodation
Im a carer for my DD ( aged 12 so hopefully this will change in the not too distant further ) who is homeschooled as she was unable to cope with mainstream / specialist due to such high anxiety

How would the homeschooling work if you’re not in the house 50% of the time?
Presumably your oh works full time?

AlwaysConfuzzled · 11/11/2024 12:58

Sorry for the late reply

The house is rented - I’m going to massively struggle to pay the rent alone as it’s way more than the LA allowance says it should be

Its been agreed now that it will only be one overnight a week that he is in the house and I will go elsewhere

My son is just so upset I’m struggling to be strong about it all

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FlemCandango · 08/11/2024 09:14

You need to look at this situation in a different way which is very difficult when you are in the eye of the storm.

You have 2 high needs children and your marriage is over.

You need to live separately from you hopefully soon to be ex husband and have a place where you can live and care for your daughter and son.

Why do you need to live in the area you do now?

If you sell up how much equity will you get?

If necessary try the 50/50 living arrangements while the house is up for sale but only on that basis. Which makes the separation real and with an end point.

You son is going to continue struggling with his emotional regulation he is a child, he is emotionally immature and he will be ok it is just going to be really hard while the transition happens. I have a DD with ADHD/ autism and she hates change, while getting easily bored which is a great combination 😄 any kind of emotional upset is really difficult she is self centered while at the same time kind and empathetic. But neurodiversity brings unique challenges as she struggles with putting herself in the mindset of the other people around her, but if you explain she will understand (while being very distressed that people may think badly of her). This is why ADHD is hard, it is a constant emotional storm. The best you can do is be decisive and ride it out.

By delaying the inevitable, you are drawing out the pain rather than reducing it.

If after looking at all the options - including maximising your income. Are you claiming all the benefits? Has your daughter got an EHCP? You really cannot separate for solid financial reasons then you need to make a plan and stick to it for living peacefully and separately but really there must be a way to end this marriage for all your sakes.

Good luck.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 08/11/2024 09:00

As long as you both live in the same house your DC will think you can get back together you need to make a break. What if one of you decides you need to stay there on the others day for some reason.

Also you say your DS has behaviour very similar your DH and whilst that may be because they are ND if you want your DS to grow up and manage to have successful relationships then you have to demonstrate that regardless of ND you still have to learn to modify your behaviour to make them work.

TriangleLight · 08/11/2024 08:49

Have you looked into all the benefits/tax credits you could get if you were on your own with the children?

i don’t suppose the atmosphere at home will be helping your dd with anxiety either.

Can you sell the house and even rent for a while?

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AlwaysConfuzzled · 08/11/2024 07:39

I’ve seen a solicitor
Theres physically no way for us both to afford accommodation
Im a carer for my DD ( aged 12 so hopefully this will change in the not too distant further ) who is homeschooled as she was unable to cope with mainstream / specialist due to such high anxiety

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Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 08/11/2024 07:23

And you know he’s going to find an excuse not to go to his parents now and again, then a bit more, then he’s back in. And the kids? I take it they stay in the house? I agree with the pp, this is a recipe for disaster.

TriangleLight · 08/11/2024 06:55

I think living in the same house albeit at planned different times is a recipe for disaster and upset for everyone.

See a solicitor and work out how you can make a clean break

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R053 · 08/11/2024 06:11

It’s best to not treat DS as an adult as he doesn’t understand the complexities of how relationships work yet.

It’s a big burden to put on him if do you get back together with your DH only because DS begged you to. There has to be your own reasons to do that.

Your DS is allowed to be a child and express his sadness and the begging is part of the processing a difficult situation for him. He needs for you to take the decision that is best for everyone with your adult hat on. There is every possibility he may turn around years later in relation to what he said at the time and say “but I was just a child!” (My daughter).

LizzieSiddal · 08/11/2024 06:08

My sister was in a very similar situation. She stayed in an awful relationship because her 10 yo Dd really pressurised her into staying.
8 years later my sister got the courage to leave and the one massive regret of her life is that she didn’t do it sooner. She is 4 years down the line now and she has never been happier, She looks back and knows without a doubt that her dc would have had better teenage years if they’d separated because they wouldn’t have had to put up with more years of bickering, awful atmospheres and a very unhappy mum.

Please see the situation as a whole and not just through your Ds eyes. It’s important you are happy, you deserve it and in the long run it will be better for your DC.

AlwaysConfuzzled · 08/11/2024 05:55

Sorry my initial post was rushed and I missed a lot of detail out
To answer the replies ( thank you for those ) we will be basically sharing the house but not being in it at the same time
50% of the week I will be living with my sister ( 2 evenings and Saturday all day ) and the others he will be living with his parents

Neither of us can afford an additional property anywhere near this area so until the children finish their schooling it will be like this

DH wants to stay living together full time but as i said we did split up 5 years ago and cohabited and the atmosphere was absolutely awful - horrible comments and questioning every move I made if I left the house at all

There hasn’t been intentional over sharing but because there have been constant bickering arguments ( not full blown screaming or anything like that ) DS thinks I’m completely unreasonable for not “ trying again “
i guess the fact he also remembers the split before an then us trying again also makes him feel like that is an option

The guilt is completely consuming me 😢

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 07/11/2024 19:19

I'm sorry op 😔

Are you in a position to move out? How will the separation work?

I'd get everything sorted in my head first before telling the kids though x

Ponderingwindow · 07/11/2024 18:27

Are you physically moving apart this time?

if you are still able to live together, that seems to imply there is no violence, abuse, or constant arguing while married. You are unfulfilled and unhappy, but the family still runs reasonably well.

if you are separating, but still living together, all you are doing is introducing stress into the situation. You can’t actually seek fulfillment in that situation. You might as well just accept the status quo until you can actually leave.

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