TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

@theemmadilemma

All vaccines have a risk.

It’s about whether the risk from the virus and complications from the virus are higher than the risk of taking the vaccine.

The risk of complications from Covid are far, far greater than risk of complications from the vaccine.

At it's most simple, the basic answer to 'has the Covid jab injured people?'

Is yes. Because otherwise there would be no need for this: https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/how-to-claim

Then how about a BBC link relating to OP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d5d6nng67o

@Notmoog

It was another poster that stated that. I’m just saying what I know about his earnings.

@Notmoog

It’s more about preventing serious complications and deaths.

Similarly the flu vaccination as flu is mutation prone.

You said he had become a very rich man so i assumed you knew but you appear to be guessing

"It was about stopping hospitals from becoming so overwhelmed that they couldn’t provide assistance across all their services."
luckily the NHS was never in danger of being overwhelmed as the public wre so terrified and guilt tripped by the government that they avoided seeking medical treatment for anything not covid related ( and that has had disastrous consequences)

@notmoog

He started off fairly ‘normally’ but his viewing figures began to drop : but then increased again when he started to peddle misinformation. The more he peddled the misinformation, the more viewers he got.
I think it’s hundreds of thousand of pounds that’s he has made.

yes, and has its place for the very elderly/ obese/ already ill etc.
The pp was very clear they thought it would stop transmission .

as a matter of interest, how much money does John Campbell have?
I assume you know as you are very confident he has made a lot of money

@Notmoog

It was about preventing serious complications and deaths. It was about stopping hospitals from becoming so overwhelmed that they couldn’t provide assistance across all their services.

It’s a virus that is mutation prone. Flu is also mutation prone. So we get offered boosters say every winter - to fight off the new strain. We are less likely to suffer serious complications with the immunity the vaccination gives.

"Campbell is a very rich man off the back of it"
Not as rich as the exec`s. at Pfizer, AZ etc....

It angers me to think people are living in fear because of these grifters. Campbell is a very rich man off the back of it. And millions of people are living in dread because they had the vaccine. Anything that happens to them subsequently is attributed to the jab. Anyway my bro is a lot better now and I hope you are too.

" I asked how she would feel if she gave it to us and DH couldn't work so we would lose a lot of money (SE) or if asthmatic DD got it and became very ill"

nice emotional blackmail for an older lady who didn't want to be isolated from her family.
You do realise the vast vast majority of the country was going to catch this illness anyway so what good did that do? Poor woman.

gosh, I really didn't think anyone thought the injections were about protecting other people any more; that's a right throwback!
Anyway, as the injections have a minimal and short lived affect on transmission I feel that I am not prepared to risk my good health by taking a substance which will not benefit others around me and more importantly will not benefit me.

How do you feel about the possibility of spreading Covid to people who were more at risk than you?
The Vaccine was about protecting us as a society rather than any individual.
My Mum was in her late 70's in 2020 and said she didn't care about restrictions or vaccines so we should continue to visit as before as she would rather isk death than isolation. I asked how she would feel if she gave it to us and DH couldn't work so we would lose a lot of money (SE) or if asthmatic DD got it and became very ill

I base that on the fact I'm under 75 years old, not obese and have no health conditions
remember when we were told it would be a very mild illness for the vast majority of people? that's what i also base it on

On what do you base that conclusion?

The link above is from January 2023 and remains unchanged.
UK HSA clearly states

Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine is strongly recommended for pregnant and breastfeeding women by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists and the Royal College of Midwives. The COVID-19 vaccines available in the UK are the safest and most effective way to protect you and your baby.
There is evidence that vaccination in pregnancy may help prevent COVID-19 hospital admissions of babies in the first 6 months of life. This is because immunity in the mother can be passed on to the baby in the womb and this offers short-term protection after birth.
Women who are pregnant are classed as in a clinical risk group within the COVID-19 vaccine programme. Unvaccinated women who become pregnant are strongly encouraged to have their first 2 doses of the vaccine. Women who are pregnant and have previously been vaccinated should have a booster dose this autumn.

Not a lot of ambiguity there

@Jumpingthruhoops please can you answer about myocarditis.

You claim the fact that it’s risen since 2020 is proof it’s the vaccines.

But it’s been on the rise for years. What accounts of the rise up to 2019?

And how is the rise since 2020 proof that it’s the vaccine?

@Jumpingthruhoops

No you’ve got it wrong. Sorry!

“The Public Assessment Report summarises the initial assessment at the time of approval in December 2020. The text in the original report remains unchanged.”

It may say updated 2024, but it’s what it said in the original document. TEXT REMAINS UNCHANGED.

It’s for reference, stating what the original report stated.

Screenshot below

OK... Now you are talking rubbish. So let's go in baby steps, to see if it gets in this time.

Step 1: The link I shared was this:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/summary-public-assessment-report-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

Step 2: Click on said link. And up comes the below image which clearly states it was updated on 8 August 2024. This document was first updated in August 2022 to include the NEW advice for pregnant women, which still remains on this 2024 update.

The original document from 2020 - and therefore the OLD advice - said the jab WAS safe for pregnant women and breastfeeding mothers, not that it was NOT.

This particular claim was updated in 2022 when Pfizer released its first batch of official data and still remains in place on the updated 2024 version which I downloaded yesterday.

So, to summarise:
2020 = Vaccine considered safe for pregnant women.
2022 = Sufficient reassurance of safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time. Also, women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated.'
2024 = Advice remains the same as it was in 2022.

Now, what part of that timeline are you struggling with?

Fair enough
I think it should be an individual decision for each person based on weighing up the risks of having any medical treatment vs not by using PROPER MEDICAL EVIDENCE FROM ACCREDITED SOURCES.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff

Your natural instinct is 100% correct. There are some real deluded nut-jobs out there feeding these so-called 'theories' and sucking gullible people in, so pay no attention to them at all.

Safety of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines during pregnancy - The Lancet Infectious Diseases

Analysis of several sources (although not any internet nutters in tin foil hats)