TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

I'm by no means an anti vaxxer - have had myself...but I did listen to the podcast about this and it was certainly good for thought! It's also got an interesting stance on fertility rates etc and anecdotally women have reported changes to their menstrual cycle since having the vaccine...it's hard not to believe there may be some truth in some of it!

We weren't told this. We were told very clearly by good scientists that it was not a silver bullet, and that its aim was not to stop covid but to stop the worst symptoms which put people in hospital. This was before the roll out.

I think you need to go back and remember what we were told in the beginning. We were told it would stop us getting covid and there would be a very small chance of contracting it after getting the vaccine. They changed the narrative when they realised it wasn't effective to you will get it but it won't be that bad so he is right.

I think you need to go back and remember what we were told in the beginning. We were told it would stop us getting covid and there would be a very small chance of contracting it after getting the vaccine. They changed the narrative when they realised it wasn't effective to you will get it but it won't be that bad so he is right.

Have you heard of humour? It highly contagious though so perhaps best avoided

@VictoriaAlbert Conspiracy theorists are incredibly open minded. So much so, their brains generally fall out and roll under something too heavy to lift and all that’s left is ‘pigeons control 5g and vaccines allow you to hear the news through your fillings’ phrases.

If only there was an emoji for this!

The 'red stuff' was most likely blood.
Probably avoided touching it as a matter of routine hygiene.

And starting anything with 'I swear this is true' tends to be as believable as a 14yr old boy launching a story about this model that met on holiday with his parents but she goes to another school so you wouldn't know her.

I heard similar from a maintenance man; also stated that the vaccines were supposed to stop us from getting COVID and didn't!

One of the few things I said in response was "eh, no, most vaccines don't stop you from contracting something, they're supposed to stop you from dying or experiencing serious problems from it". This was news apparently.

Why are people so dumb about a bloody vaccine? If you’d rather have the disease then go for it 🙄

Blood clots? Seeing as Covid is now known to be a blood clotting disorder?

Not stuff in people's veins though. That's really frightening 😁

I feel like the "Sensible" in your username is a bit out of place 😉

Probably 15 to 20 million UK women of menstruating age have had the Covid vaccine in the last 4 years. After that, some of them may also have experienced changes in their cycle. That might be due to the vaccine, or it might have been due to any of the many thousands of other things that they did in the intervening time. Meanwhile the women who did not experience any change in their cycle did not write anecdotal reports about it.

Having a vaccine, especially as an adult, is a significant (psychologists would say "salient") event. Everyone talks about it, especially for the first two jabs. So when something slightly unusual happens, you're more likely to attribute it to the vaccine, simply because that event is available to your memory. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic

Here's a test. Go into your local Facebook group and say you have sciatica, and ask for suggestions. Out of 50 people you will get 30 or 40 different replies, and no "remedy" will be mentioned more than twice. Why? Because sciatica is both very annoying (so people try lots of stuff) and also basically self-limiting (i.e., it goes away on its own, albeit sometimes taking ages to do so). You will try lots of things, and one day, it will stop. And you will be convinced that it was whatever you tried the day before. But it really wasn't.

government's plan was to decrease the population

What, they want fewer people to pay taxes and pay for pensions and do essential jobs ... even though the birth rate is already low?

Yeah, some people have natural immunity, though.

The 'red stuff' was most likely blood.
Probably avoided touching it as a matter of routine hygiene.

And starting anything with 'I swear this is true' tends to be as believable as a 14yr old boy launching a story about this model that met on holiday with his parents but she goes to another school so you wouldn't know her.

Probably 15 to 20 million UK women of menstruating age have had the Covid vaccine in the last 4 years. After that, some of them may also have experienced changes in their cycle. That might be due to the vaccine, or it might have been due to any of the many thousands of other things that they did in the intervening time. Meanwhile the women who did not experience any change in their cycle did not write anecdotal reports about it.

Having a vaccine, especially as an adult, is a significant (psychologists would say "salient") event. Everyone talks about it, especially for the first two jabs. So when something slightly unusual happens, you're more likely to attribute it to the vaccine, simply because that event is available to your memory. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic

Here's a test. Go into your local Facebook group and say you have sciatica, and ask for suggestions. Out of 50 people you will get 30 or 40 different replies, and no "remedy" will be mentioned more than twice. Why? Because sciatica is both very annoying (so people try lots of stuff) and also basically self-limiting (i.e., it goes away on its own, albeit sometimes taking ages to do so). You will try lots of things, and one day, it will stop. And you will be convinced that it was whatever you tried the day before. But it really wasn't.