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TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

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SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

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Aibuforthisthought · 12/11/2024 17:13

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 16:19

You're not getting it,
There have been plenty of top doctors and scientists blowing the whistle over the past few years but its very hard to show you proof because most of it has been removed.
Neil Oliver has talked about it a lot,
Rumble and brand new tube is full of information, but you probably won't even look at it because it's not 'mainstream' enough.
At the end of the day you choose what to believe based on critical thinking. You can Carry on believing the British Bullshit Corporation and such like if you want.
The fact is that most people have been brainwashed and refuse to question otherwise.
You know there was a Facebook group for people who had suffered from the vaccination and lost loved ones? But suprise suprise it got taken down like many other things.

Oh my gosh. Rabbit Hole has swallowed you. Russell Brand! 🤣🤣🤣 good grief!

Where are your published peer reviewed research papers for evidence? Links to those please.

What are you on about. No one has asked for the BBC etc that is not what is being requested.

You do know what published peer reviewed research is, don't you? I'm beginning to wonder!

Aibuforthisthought · 12/11/2024 17:09

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 15:53

"You obviously haven't studied at least at university level, have you?"

this person is baffled as to why I called them rude!

I'm bemused by your lack of understanding as to what research evidence actually means. Still waiting for you and other poster to produce your evidence. I suspect a long wait whilst you complain about someone challenging you, divert and generally do anything but. Pretty typical really 🙄 but there you go. Anything substantial or just a whinge about being challenged?

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 16:52

Dotto · 12/11/2024 16:50

Russell Brand 🤣

?????

Dotto · 12/11/2024 16:50

Russell Brand 🤣

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 16:36

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 16:23

No one here is using the BBC as a source of scientific information. People are asking for the actual research that someone has claimed has been published. Neil Oliver is a TV presenter and archaeologist, not an expert in anything related to this field. He won't have published any research.

I'm sorry that you think that most people are brainwashed. It must be a very difficult life to live if that's what you genuinely believe.

Not difficult at all. I'm much happier being awake.

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 16:23

No one here is using the BBC as a source of scientific information. People are asking for the actual research that someone has claimed has been published. Neil Oliver is a TV presenter and archaeologist, not an expert in anything related to this field. He won't have published any research.

I'm sorry that you think that most people are brainwashed. It must be a very difficult life to live if that's what you genuinely believe.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 16:19

You're not getting it,
There have been plenty of top doctors and scientists blowing the whistle over the past few years but its very hard to show you proof because most of it has been removed.
Neil Oliver has talked about it a lot,
Rumble and brand new tube is full of information, but you probably won't even look at it because it's not 'mainstream' enough.
At the end of the day you choose what to believe based on critical thinking. You can Carry on believing the British Bullshit Corporation and such like if you want.
The fact is that most people have been brainwashed and refuse to question otherwise.
You know there was a Facebook group for people who had suffered from the vaccination and lost loved ones? But suprise suprise it got taken down like many other things.

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 16:16

Ditto for the Brave search too. Results all very similar between the three, Google, DDG and Brave.

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 16:14

@Cappuccinowithonesugarplease sorry to disappoint but DuckDuckGo comes up with zip too. Actually lots of articles about why there isn't a link between covid vaccines and the sudden deaths of athletes.

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 16:10

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 15:53

"You obviously haven't studied at least at university level, have you?"

this person is baffled as to why I called them rude!

You called me rude. Yes I am baffled why you called me rude.

and I didn’t say what you claimed I have said at all. I didn’t mention university level.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 16:04

HippoCamping · 12/11/2024 15:44

So let me see.

So far the anti vaxxers who support ‘threads being pulled out of veins??? by embalmers’ also

  1. have presented a government document as ‘proof’ while blatantly misreading and misinterpreting the document (although that’s all gone a bit tumbleweed now)

  2. have named an unknown professor, with no link to any study : and ungoogle-able name that no one has ever heard of

  3. are resorting to jolly political memes.

Brilliant!! Of course professors around the world (with years of experience and qualifications) should be shunned in favour of these pearls of wisdom!!

Try using duck duck go or brave to search. Google is really biased :)

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 16:03

@Notmoog link it then. I've already said that no such research was easily found with a decent internet search. I could find a science professor at a Lebanese university with a similar name spelt differently but at this point I have no idea if that's the person the other poster meant.

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 15:54

"have named an unknown professor, with no link to any study : and ungoogle-able name that no one has ever heard of"

is your google broken as their name/ research comes up when I google it?

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 15:53

"You obviously haven't studied at least at university level, have you?"

this person is baffled as to why I called them rude!

HippoCamping · 12/11/2024 15:44

So let me see.

So far the anti vaxxers who support ‘threads being pulled out of veins??? by embalmers’ also

  1. have presented a government document as ‘proof’ while blatantly misreading and misinterpreting the document (although that’s all gone a bit tumbleweed now)

  2. have named an unknown professor, with no link to any study : and ungoogle-able name that no one has ever heard of

  3. are resorting to jolly political memes.

Brilliant!! Of course professors around the world (with years of experience and qualifications) should be shunned in favour of these pearls of wisdom!!

Aibuforthisthought · 12/11/2024 15:32

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 15:18

No I haven't been indoctrinated thanks

Oh dear. I meant understanding how research works. How research is published and critiqued, peer reviewed etc.

Making a claim about something you've read and not linking said 'research' evidence so people can read and see the entire paper. Not just how someone interprets or often misinterprets or takes a line out of context (which has occurred on this thread already). Then it can be discussed and challenged if need be.

The sloppy 'I read X and he said Y so it must be true, go Google it yourself approach, is very secondary school. At a higher level uou would be robustly a d rightfully challenged to produce what you claim. It's clear that posters are not used to that.

Dotto · 12/11/2024 15:28

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 15:18

No I haven't been indoctrinated thanks

You think level 6 study is 'indoctrination'?!

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 15:18

Aibuforthisthought · 12/11/2024 14:15

The burden of proof is on those making the claims. Would be lovely to see some links to back up the various claims made? Say it, prove it? That's generally how it works; not, say it then tell everyone else to go find what you claim. You obviously haven't studied at least at university level, have you?

No I haven't been indoctrinated thanks

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/11/2024 15:15

Cartwrightandson · 12/11/2024 14:49

See photo attached...you and myself haven't changed or moved, the left has become more extreme

Love this 🤣

Cartwrightandson · 12/11/2024 14:49

See photo attached...you and myself haven't changed or moved, the left has become more extreme

TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!
Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 14:46

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 14:37

"But you won’t answer it."
Because you're an incredibly rude person so I'm not responding po you from now.
Enjoy the rest of your day and enjoy your feeling of superiority because you couldn't possibly be wrong, could you? not when the vaccine companies have assured you all is good as have the scientists ( well, the ones who are allowed a public opinion; not the ones with a different opinion obviously as they've been nicely quietened)

What have I said that’s incredibly rude?

You have posted an article that disproves the point you are arguing.

You avoided answering it and linked an article that says something different to what you claimed it was saying?

How is that rude? Do you know how a conversation happens? Just because people are challenging your opinion, it doesn’t make them rude.

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 14:37

"But you won’t answer it."
Because you're an incredibly rude person so I'm not responding po you from now.
Enjoy the rest of your day and enjoy your feeling of superiority because you couldn't possibly be wrong, could you? not when the vaccine companies have assured you all is good as have the scientists ( well, the ones who are allowed a public opinion; not the ones with a different opinion obviously as they've been nicely quietened)

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 14:34

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 14:28

there is a risk due to covid, there is a risk due to the vaccine.
Why double your risk by having the injections?

No. Covid-19 is much higher risk than the vaccine.

So you aren’t doubling your risk. Why havent you read the article YOU linked.

And that’s wasn’t the question. The question was ‘why are you convinced the rise in myocarditis is due to vaccine and not covid itself’

But you won’t answer it.

Aibuforthisthought · 12/11/2024 14:31

Notmoog · 12/11/2024 14:27

no, that wasn't a reasonable request. that was an excuse to be incredibly rude and i get the feeling whatever is linked would be disregarded ( unless it came from a beacon of scientific excellence such as the BBC, which you would bizarrely accept)

Good grief. I've asked for a link to a research paper that shows what poster claimed, that's all. I don't want a media or newssite link. A link to the research paper that says what poster claimed. It's not been forthcoming though, yet.....

SilenceInside · 12/11/2024 14:30

@Notmoog why would a research paper come from the BBC? I would be expecting a link to the research itself, in whatever peer reviewed publication it was originally published in. You object to the tone and the manner of the request, but the request for details on this apparent research is reasonable. In fact necessary for sensible debate.