TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

So for the things from veins claim.....https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32JG7UE

No recorded evidence just 1 man who says he saw it.... then followed the conspiracy theories and so it snowballed and it appears still running after the man's 'baseless claims' 2 years ago

Indeed.

When challenged they divert, tell you to go look yourself, resort to comments such as they are awake (implication being these special conspiracy theory believers are in the know, others aren't, a bit like a cult), or just do anything other than just back up the claims they are making. It always follows the same predictable route. Unfortunately, some other people read don't check and join the belief.

What they don't do is share the peer reviewed research evidence they claim supports what they say. We all know why.

Similarly the double standards

I made a claim last night was made up, completely unscientific, no peer review etc etc.

Yet had I could have spread my claims on social media. I could have found a platform like Rumble to announce my claims.

Then another poster states ‘robust’ ‘try Google’.

Exactly. Robust is peer reviewed evidence. Not wild claims like ‘embalmers pull stuff out of veins.’
‘Try Google’ when other posters here are stating that Google is biased and you need to look to completely unregulated places like Rumble where my claim would be accepted as ‘the truth’.

The peer review is key, and none of the wild claims are backed up by peer reviewed evidence.

There are however many articles debunking conspiracy theorists claims. A single example is

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-general-science/athletes-vaccines-and-cardiac-deaths

I've asked constantly for links to evidence and still none forthcoming. Which leads to the conclusion that those posters who make these claims... including cappuccino and notmog either:

1. Just make random claims about the covid vaccine up.

1. Have watched someone on Tic tok or YouTube and blindly believe them, without actually checking its correct. The Russell Brand following might suggest this.

1. Misinterpreted something and can't produce it out of embarrassment.

1. Like pretending they 'know something that others don't, love the attention and so will never give a straight reply. They don't actually understand how peer reviewed research evidence works.

I've had a look, as another poster did (and also couldn't find what others suggested was there) and can find a large amount of people discounting claims. As in "It beggars belief, but I still sometimes hear people claim that waves of young athletes have died suddenly after being vaccinated. It is a pervasive hoax and still repeated by people to express doubts about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines.". Sadly, once a conspiracy theorist on YouTube makes a claim it runs and runs, possibly due to the number of people (as seen on this thread) who just believe it and don't actually check what the conspiracy theorist claims. It strange they don't believe scientists who spent a lifetime studying and research but a celebrity or YouTube 'expert' will be believed in an instant. Maybe because they really want to believe vaccines are bad.

kind of spoils the hilarity and superiority of your post though, doesn't it?
maybe try a little fact finding mission next time before you post.
i believe google is a good place to start

@Notmoog

My boy’s a genius.

well some injections do make you fart such as opioids so there is no need to provide any ROBUST science

okaaaaay.
maybe time for a little nap for you?

@Notmoog

Strangely enough, weird and non-sensical are exactly my thoughts re pulling stuff out of veins, misinterpretation of papers and studies by bizarrely named scientists (only found on duck duck goose).

So I thought I’d join in with my DC’s findings. He used one of those plastic injectors from his doctor’s kit, and the farty sound was coming from his mouth I think. But no matter. Injections DO make you fart, we’ve proved it and I’m going to make a YouTube video.

what on earth are you on about?
genuinely, are you ok? there's been a sort of manic flurry of weird non sensical posts from you

Ok. So we have Professor Smellybutt.

The area of expertise is usually cars and jumping off sofas.

As qualifications are pointless, he’s decided to see if there is a relationship between injections and doing loud farts.

Apparently there is!

No need for peer review. And you won’t find this study on Google, you need something a bit more ‘niche’.

So there you have it : injections make you fart.

And don’t you DARE question my reasoning or I’ll call you woke.

So you think you are hilarious as well as super important and oh so educated.

Who is 'making up random studies'?
And what are you on about geography teachers teaching football 🤣
Talk about going off on a tangent.

I think DC would come up with a GREAT name for a professor though. I’ll ask…

@Aibuforthisthought

You say KS2 but -

To be fair to 5 year olds, I think my DC would notice if the piano teacher tried to teach football…

Although does do a fair bit of the fingers in ears, I can’t hear you, you’re a meanie : when in the wrong.

Feels like that 😂

I feel like I'm in KS2 science on this page. It's amazing isn't it.

Pulling teeth would be easier.

And then you switch all the teachers round. Clearly the Geography teacher should be teaching Biology…

So share your research evidence then.

This is really hard work.

You say you have seen it, share the link, rather than doing everything but. You'd help your cause if you shared the peer reviewed published research evidence rather than going round in circles 🙄

This gets better.

We should all be listening to Neil Oliver and Rumble.
This is what they should be rolling out in school science lessons!
Throw the textbooks out, sod degrees, doctorates and PHD’s - and let’s get ready to Rumble.
First lesson : how to pull stuff out of veins…

Second lesson : the swerve. If someone calls you out, don’t respond, change topic and stick your fingers in your ears…

Third lesson : the art of making up random studies with professor-name-generator to ‘back’ whatever rubbish that enters your head

So are you saying Google is biased and hides the research evidence. Since you have seen this 'evidence ' then kindly help by sharing it. Is that so difficult to do? You know share the link to the peer reviewed, published research..... 🙄

you forgot the word robust

Since you're so 'awake' then kindly share with us whom you seem to think are 'asleep' the evidence to support your claims. You know proper peer reviewed, published research. Not youtube ramblings of a celebrity.

But I am questioning and asking. I'm not accepting anything, I'm asking for the evidence to support you. I always question. When someone is unable or unwilling to answer then it appears they know little about the subject. Cut the soundbites and catch phrases and actually post links to the evidence that supports what you suggest. Is there any?