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Knowingly stealing - food shop delivery

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Ponter · 07/11/2024 13:45

We order from one of the main supermarkets. On the day of the delivery (last week), I decided to cancel the shop as many of my plans had changed so i didn’t need some of the stuff that had been ordered.

Anyway, the food van turned up and I had a hunch that if I accepted the order I could get the groceries and still get the refund. Which is exactly what happened. It was a risk but I still needed majority of the groceries ordered so thought I’d chance it. We had similar happen once before but we were honest in that scenario.

Even if the supermarket comes back and want me to rectify the error/pay up I can do so - that’s no problem.

I know it’s wrong but I believe the majority would do the same.

Be honest would you?

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 07/11/2024 20:47

And no doubt the OP will be whinging about price hikes in supermarkets at some point in the near future. Disgusting behaviour, frankly. For dinner party contents, so hardly broke.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 07/11/2024 20:46

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:33

I wasn’t going to say this, but now I am. I work for a charity closely involved with food banks and some of the (thankfully rare) attitudes on this post towards basic theft are disgraceful and thankfully not shared by the majority of people.

I was with a food bank last week when a woman - don’t worry all identifiable details changed - walked in with a bag full of 1ps. She asked for a bronze bag (they have tiers of food bags - a bronze bag is the equivalent of £15-worth of provisions for £3) and put her bag of money on the table and said: “I think it totals £3, should all be there.” The foodbank manager said to her, gently: “It’s completely ok, we have some surplus, you can have the bag without paying.”

The lady said - and I will NEVER forget this - “I appreciate this service and to take food without paying would feel wrong to me. Please take my money, I have my pride and I want to pay.” Took a good minute to manually count up the money, it was £3 to the dot. She said thank you and went on her way.

So here’s a big FUCK YOU to everyone who thinks we ALL thieve or that we are entitled to screw over foodsellers of any description. By all means vote with your feet, buy your food elsewhere, but this attitude that it’s ok to take provisions without payment because it’s ‘big business’ - you have no pride, you have no idea what impact it has on the business when you steal (or rather you don’t care) and you don’t have ONE OUNCE of the dignity of this lady.

I drove her home because she was a bit unsteady on her feet (older person). And then had to drive around the estate for a bit before I went back to the food bank because I was crying with abject humility at this woman who had literally raided her sofa cushions to pay her way in life. Some people on this thread suck. And stealing food for a dinner party? You are disgusting, you just are.

I think that driving that lady home was lovely of you. But the bigger lesson from your story is how disgusting it is that an old(er) and seemingly of poor mobility eoman had to scrape together £3 in pennies for her food as she needed foodbank help but didn't want to lose her pride. She had to do this because supermarkets have not only protected their profits but have made records more whilst shafting the poor.

I've worked at a foodbank myself. I've seen the elderly and the disabled come in, and for the most part, be so polite and respectful and humble.

I can commend their fortitude whilst standing firmly on the fact that this shouldn't happen. The supermarkets who put up the costs of their food during a cost of living crisis, harming the elderly, are the only ones who need to be ashamed of themselves.

I don't think that being reduced to stealing basics means you lack morals or aren't a decent person, and I will never think that.

We've got governments thst fiddle their expenses and hand lucrative contracts over to their friends. Companies who care so much about us that they pay as little tax as possible. No way I can see that and sit around judging someone for making the difficult choice to steal from a large chain.

And as for the post by op, again I don't care. Once those with the power to influence the daily lives of so many, are held to account, then I'll hold someone I don't know to account for playing a rigged system

Saz12 · 07/11/2024 20:31

Obviously I wouldn't, because I'm not a thief.

JudgeJ · 07/11/2024 20:29

UtterlyButterly2048 · 07/11/2024 16:53

Like a pp, a similar thing happened to me from a well known wine merchant. They delivered my Christmas wine order then 3 days later delivered it again. I rang up but they had no record of the second delivery so told me to keep it. I wouldn’t have just kept it though without saying anything. I’m not a thief.

Laithwaites perchance?

Diyextension · 07/11/2024 20:24

Im with you op, its the supermarkets mistake, they shouldn’t be so crap at cancelling order’s.

I’ve had other peoples trays of food delivered with ours before….they have never come back for them.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 07/11/2024 20:20

Ponter · 07/11/2024 13:55

I’m not boasting. Never once stole before. Always try do the right thing normally. I just chanced it. I have to be honest we were hosting a dinner party which didn’t go ahead so the nice items - wine, meat just tempted me to chance it.

Well now you have stolen, so you're prepared to steal when you don't think you'll be caught. That says a lot about you. People doing things like this drives up costs for everyone. You're not struggling to put food on the table, you have zero justification for this. My shopping turned up with extra bags a few days ago, I checked quickly and gave the extra bags back to the driver because I didn't pay for them. So no I would absolutely not have accepted the shop if this had happened to me.

ttcat37 · 07/11/2024 20:13

@Ponter Next time you go to the supermarket, and you think “shit, that’s expensive”, it’s because of thieves like you. You put the prices up for everyone else- everyone struggling to make ends meet. Unlike you, just a dishonest, selfish thief.

Pinkissmart · 07/11/2024 20:10

What the hell is wrong with you, Op.
Genuinely shocked about your deviousness

SimpleThings101 · 07/11/2024 19:54

Absolutely not.

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:54

betterangels · 07/11/2024 19:51

Arlanymor thank you for your post. It made me tear up. I've not been to food banks as we don't have them where I am, but I can relate to having exact change in coins and counting it up at the till. Thank you for being kind to her.

You’re so welcome and sorry for upsetting you, but it is upsetting isn’t it? Her dignity really affected me, choked me up actually, and being decent to one another really does cost nothing. Hope you are doing ok and thanks for your message, I appreciate it. ♥️

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:54

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:45

Thank you, she really was, I teared up a bit when writing it now as it brought it all home to me again. She was so determined that she was going to pay.

I was in a meeting today with someone with the Poverty Truth Network and I think my feelings are close to the surface as some people are so glib about what is theft and the excuses for shit behaviour masquerading as personal moralising on this forum is insane at times.

There are people in world in unbelievable distress out there who would think the attitudes and actions of some people on here completely reprehensible. These are people not on the breadline but far below it, people who would literally give someone their last penny, many of whom don’t have a home.

And then you see shit on here about how evil supermarkets are and this idea that ‘well if THEY let me get away with it then it’s THEIR fault!’ No, it’s yours, take some damned self responsibility.

Well said @Arlanymor. Your posts are a sharp contrast to some of the more immoral and downright idiotic ones here. Thank you for sharing this lady's story. I love it.

WillowTit · 07/11/2024 19:53

other shoppers will suffer because of your dishonesty

betterangels · 07/11/2024 19:51

Arlanymor thank you for your post. It made me tear up. I've not been to food banks as we don't have them where I am, but I can relate to having exact change in coins and counting it up at the till. Thank you for being kind to her.

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:45

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:38

What a wonderful lady. If only there were more like her, with such dignity, pride, integrity and honesty. Some people could learn a lot from her, if they weren't too arrogant.

Thank you, she really was, I teared up a bit when writing it now as it brought it all home to me again. She was so determined that she was going to pay.

I was in a meeting today with someone with the Poverty Truth Network and I think my feelings are close to the surface as some people are so glib about what is theft and the excuses for shit behaviour masquerading as personal moralising on this forum is insane at times.

There are people in world in unbelievable distress out there who would think the attitudes and actions of some people on here completely reprehensible. These are people not on the breadline but far below it, people who would literally give someone their last penny, many of whom don’t have a home.

And then you see shit on here about how evil supermarkets are and this idea that ‘well if THEY let me get away with it then it’s THEIR fault!’ No, it’s yours, take some damned self responsibility.

taxguru · 07/11/2024 19:42

betterangels · 07/11/2024 19:35

She probably wouldn't because then people would see it ... and I bet she thinks she's an upstanding member of her community and all.

Exactly, for lots of people, whether something is illegal or moral will only depend on whether they're caught!

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 19:39

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:38

No.

Alrighty well good chat xx

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:38

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 19:37

Yes and mine referred to yours. Cool isn't it.

No.

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:38

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:33

I wasn’t going to say this, but now I am. I work for a charity closely involved with food banks and some of the (thankfully rare) attitudes on this post towards basic theft are disgraceful and thankfully not shared by the majority of people.

I was with a food bank last week when a woman - don’t worry all identifiable details changed - walked in with a bag full of 1ps. She asked for a bronze bag (they have tiers of food bags - a bronze bag is the equivalent of £15-worth of provisions for £3) and put her bag of money on the table and said: “I think it totals £3, should all be there.” The foodbank manager said to her, gently: “It’s completely ok, we have some surplus, you can have the bag without paying.”

The lady said - and I will NEVER forget this - “I appreciate this service and to take food without paying would feel wrong to me. Please take my money, I have my pride and I want to pay.” Took a good minute to manually count up the money, it was £3 to the dot. She said thank you and went on her way.

So here’s a big FUCK YOU to everyone who thinks we ALL thieve or that we are entitled to screw over foodsellers of any description. By all means vote with your feet, buy your food elsewhere, but this attitude that it’s ok to take provisions without payment because it’s ‘big business’ - you have no pride, you have no idea what impact it has on the business when you steal (or rather you don’t care) and you don’t have ONE OUNCE of the dignity of this lady.

I drove her home because she was a bit unsteady on her feet (older person). And then had to drive around the estate for a bit before I went back to the food bank because I was crying with abject humility at this woman who had literally raided her sofa cushions to pay her way in life. Some people on this thread suck. And stealing food for a dinner party? You are disgusting, you just are.

What a wonderful lady. If only there were more like her, with such dignity, pride, integrity and honesty. Some people could learn a lot from her, if they weren't too arrogant.

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 19:37

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:36

My comment referred to your posts.

Yes and mine referred to yours. Cool isn't it.

Whatsitreallylike · 07/11/2024 19:36

If my children were hungry and I couldn’t afford to feed them, then yes I would. Under any other circumstances, absolutely not.

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:36

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 19:32

Waste of breath is moaning online judging one person, clearly you feel strongly about it, but not strongly enough to tell the supermarkets? That's pointless.

My comment referred to your posts.

betterangels · 07/11/2024 19:35

TyrannasaurusJex · 07/11/2024 19:29

OP, would you go to the same supermarket, fill your trolley with the same groceries, walk towards the tills and notice that the security guard was distracted so "chance it" and walk out without paying? Because this is EXACTLY the same.

She probably wouldn't because then people would see it ... and I bet she thinks she's an upstanding member of her community and all.

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:34

MumOfOneAllAlone · 07/11/2024 19:29

You can comment on what you like, im not telling you not to, but this debate is about the ethics of stealing from a large company - it's nothing to do with our children. As far as I'm aware there are lots of people on aibu who don't even have kids

To comment and imply I'm raising mine incorrectly, because you disagree eith my opinion, is in poor form and a bit nasty. I myself don't care about your children.

Nor do I care that (or get why) you're laughing - but again, I'm not telling you what to do

I'm gonna continue to post on mumsnet and carry on with my life - I suspect this amount of attention has made you giddy on your dull Thursday so I'm not gonna keep the comments coming towards you, although you'll see me continue to debate elsewhere

I'm sure you'll be lurking 🙄🤭

I won't be lurking at all. I will be posting what I wish to, when I wish to post it, within the rules.

You are completely overreacting. You were asked ages ago if you taught your child that it was ok to steal so long as it was from large corporations. There's nothing "poor form" or "nasty" whatsoever in anything I have said. I think you're a tad oversensitive for a public forum tbh. I don't think it was me, yet you are fixating on my posts. It's getting very boring now. You're clearly not someone who can be reasoned with. For your information, I'm a mature, intelligent, adult woman and I don't get "giddy" ffs. I'm out.

Arlanymor · 07/11/2024 19:33

I wasn’t going to say this, but now I am. I work for a charity closely involved with food banks and some of the (thankfully rare) attitudes on this post towards basic theft are disgraceful and thankfully not shared by the majority of people.

I was with a food bank last week when a woman - don’t worry all identifiable details changed - walked in with a bag full of 1ps. She asked for a bronze bag (they have tiers of food bags - a bronze bag is the equivalent of £15-worth of provisions for £3) and put her bag of money on the table and said: “I think it totals £3, should all be there.” The foodbank manager said to her, gently: “It’s completely ok, we have some surplus, you can have the bag without paying.”

The lady said - and I will NEVER forget this - “I appreciate this service and to take food without paying would feel wrong to me. Please take my money, I have my pride and I want to pay.” Took a good minute to manually count up the money, it was £3 to the dot. She said thank you and went on her way.

So here’s a big FUCK YOU to everyone who thinks we ALL thieve or that we are entitled to screw over foodsellers of any description. By all means vote with your feet, buy your food elsewhere, but this attitude that it’s ok to take provisions without payment because it’s ‘big business’ - you have no pride, you have no idea what impact it has on the business when you steal (or rather you don’t care) and you don’t have ONE OUNCE of the dignity of this lady.

I drove her home because she was a bit unsteady on her feet (older person). And then had to drive around the estate for a bit before I went back to the food bank because I was crying with abject humility at this woman who had literally raided her sofa cushions to pay her way in life. Some people on this thread suck. And stealing food for a dinner party? You are disgusting, you just are.

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 19:32

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 19:30

Waste of breath...

Waste of breath is moaning online judging one person, clearly you feel strongly about it, but not strongly enough to tell the supermarkets? That's pointless.