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To think this is going too far now? (Trump)

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AutumnLeaves1990 · 07/11/2024 13:04

That a supposed Christian democrat friend hopes there's another assassination attempt on him soon? I know he can be hated but to wish death on someone is just well... going too far?

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wickerlady · 07/11/2024 16:41

Yes and they view themselves as 'good people'.

Self elected guardians of the moral high ground, or so they think they are, but then would marvel in something so awful as this.

Pathetic really, and anti-democracy - does it get worse?

Feelingstrange2 · 07/11/2024 16:35

I sort of pleased he won by a landslide (in US terms). He is where he is, democratically elected, so let's suck it up. At least there's no arguments as to whether he should be in that position whether we like.it or not.

He may be a target but those that follow could be far worse. As others have said he likes golf too much, so hopefully he will.let others make the hard decisions and just get on with keeping his handicap down whilst avoiding a prison term.

MonkeyToHeaven · 07/11/2024 16:32

Cowboycorgi · 07/11/2024 16:06

Dear me, stop feeding into the drama with these endless bullshit posts ( not you personally op, mumsnet as a whole). I live in the US and I've seen more hand wringing, we're terrified posts on this site than any of my local sites. We had a democratic election, Trump won. Everything is OK and will be OK. The sky is not falling in. The world isn't ending. Go about your lives and stop perpetuating this nonsense.

54% of Americans have a maximum reading age of a 6th grader. I'd rather pay attention to the warnings of his former staff and generals than the complacency of a disinterested population.

We had the same thing with Brexit, "it'll be OK the government aren't going to roll back on our rights and protections". Cue attacks on worker's rights, the right to protest, the independence of the judiciary, environmental standards etc.

It's the same network of people backing both movements, with the same long term aims, and they're not manoeuvring in the interests of the general population.

I'd much rather see Trump in jail than shot though.

StudioFocusTricky · 07/11/2024 16:32

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 07/11/2024 15:14

Much as i loathe the man, he didn't elect himself. The problem isn't one man. He is a symptom of the problem.

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There's 73,000,000 Americans who actively wanted him to be president and only 68,000,000 who didn't. So they've got their president, democratically elected. This is the country they have built and getting rid of the pustule at the top does not do anything about the other 73,000,000 who think that way.

There's also the 22,000,000 who were registered to vote but didn't do so and the approx 45,000,000 who are adults of voting age who didn't register to vote.

Assassination is never a good way to change the direction of a country. The figurehead at the top is a symptom not a cause.

GotToLeave · 07/11/2024 16:31

If you look back at what Hitler did, Trump has done similar. He’s even talked about Hitler doing some good and wanting generals like Hitler. He incited the storming of a government building leading to deaths, he’s boasted about sexual assault, he didn’t pay any attention to democratic principles and has threatened them, he’s a convicted felon who lies and is clearly in it for his own ego, not in service to people and country. And he’s unhinged. It is frightening that a man like that has so much power. Women in particular should be very afraid.

GotToLeave · 07/11/2024 16:26

I rarely wish any that anyone would die but him and Putin I can get behind spending a little bit of my mental energy wishing them dead. It’s not political. Any other republican I wouldn’t feel this way. If Putin hadn’t invaded Ukraine I wouldn’t feel this way. But had I been around in WWII I’d have wished for Hitler to die too. It’s no different.

CharSiu · 07/11/2024 16:25

He was democratically elected, what is the alternative? an unelected dictator or an election where there is one candidate because that is what some of the world has to live with.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 07/11/2024 16:24

I’d be quite pleased if he died, not too fussed in how it came about. Shit happens and plenty of people are killed and we all die, he’s already had a good innings.

Menopausalsourpuss · 07/11/2024 16:21

Thanks @Cowboycorgi I think it's our terrible media that leads to all this hysteria. Alot of people in the UK get all their info from "the telly" and gullibly believe everything they're told and don't do their own research (even when they've got loads of time on their hands as I learnt during Covid).

friendlycat · 07/11/2024 16:19

Cowboycorgi · 07/11/2024 16:06

Dear me, stop feeding into the drama with these endless bullshit posts ( not you personally op, mumsnet as a whole). I live in the US and I've seen more hand wringing, we're terrified posts on this site than any of my local sites. We had a democratic election, Trump won. Everything is OK and will be OK. The sky is not falling in. The world isn't ending. Go about your lives and stop perpetuating this nonsense.

A completely fair point that I agree with.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 07/11/2024 16:17

YANBU. If it was him saying that he’d be hauled over the coals.

Outandinbout · 07/11/2024 16:12

Cowboycorgi · 07/11/2024 16:06

Dear me, stop feeding into the drama with these endless bullshit posts ( not you personally op, mumsnet as a whole). I live in the US and I've seen more hand wringing, we're terrified posts on this site than any of my local sites. We had a democratic election, Trump won. Everything is OK and will be OK. The sky is not falling in. The world isn't ending. Go about your lives and stop perpetuating this nonsense.

Absolutely this.

WickedlyCharmed · 07/11/2024 16:07

Wishing death on someone, how very typically hypocritically Christian.

Cowboycorgi · 07/11/2024 16:06

Dear me, stop feeding into the drama with these endless bullshit posts ( not you personally op, mumsnet as a whole). I live in the US and I've seen more hand wringing, we're terrified posts on this site than any of my local sites. We had a democratic election, Trump won. Everything is OK and will be OK. The sky is not falling in. The world isn't ending. Go about your lives and stop perpetuating this nonsense.

GoldenPheasant · 07/11/2024 16:05

The chances are he won't last four years anyway, dementia is obviously setting in. Not that we're likely to be any better off without him once he has put the likes of Vance, Kennedy and Musk into positions of power.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 07/11/2024 16:02

I don't like Trump but I don't want him dead, I just wish he had retired to Mar A Lago in 2021.

The majority of US citizens voted for him, and if they want contaminated water, children exposed to lead and carcinogens, a Bible based education system with 12th grade students graduating high school with what is currently 8th grade education, the stagnation of global trade, the loss of many of their global customers to other countries (which is what happened when he tried tariffs last time), and farmers, hotels, and the restaurant industry complaining because they can't find anyone to work 60 hours a week for less than minimum wage because all the illegal migrants have been deported then that is what they voted for. I personally don't think it is all that great, not particularly wanting to live on a cancer cluster, but there are plenty of people in Alabama and similar who are quite happy to do that as it is more 'manly' or something.

PortiasBiscuit · 07/11/2024 15:54

Not sure the FBI/ CIA won’t stick a bullet in him if it suits their purposes.. ( they’ve done it before)

wordler · 07/11/2024 15:52

Snorlaxo · 07/11/2024 15:46

Wishing for someone’s death is outrageous.

If Trump was successfully assassinated then I think that the civil unrest would be more widespread than January 6th and the hysteria would be more widespread than when Princess Diana died. Trump would be elevated to saint status by some and I’d be seriously concerned about the safety of other innocents.

Is Vance much better than Trump? An assassinated Trump would mean Vance for 8 years and he could have a VP who is as bad as or worse than Trump.

Vance is worse than Trump in many ways because he’s not an old deranged man who prefers golfing to working.

He’s not as interesting or charismatic in a media sense though so would generate fewer headlines and less cult loyalty.

username7891 · 07/11/2024 15:49

Haven't the assassination attempts all been by Republicans?

AlexaSetATimer · 07/11/2024 15:49

Lickthips · 07/11/2024 15:24

Trump is very pro gun and lots of innocent Americans die as a result of the US's lax attitude to gun ownership. If Trump falls foul of this I couldn't give one single, solitary fuck.

Same.

Snorlaxo · 07/11/2024 15:46

Wishing for someone’s death is outrageous.

If Trump was successfully assassinated then I think that the civil unrest would be more widespread than January 6th and the hysteria would be more widespread than when Princess Diana died. Trump would be elevated to saint status by some and I’d be seriously concerned about the safety of other innocents.

Is Vance much better than Trump? An assassinated Trump would mean Vance for 8 years and he could have a VP who is as bad as or worse than Trump.

wordler · 07/11/2024 15:43

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 07/11/2024 15:14

Much as i loathe the man, he didn't elect himself. The problem isn't one man. He is a symptom of the problem.

Yep and Trump himself is almost irrelevant now - Vance and the 2025 agenda is on track and removing Trump just gets us Vance.

It’s a truly terrifying document and will have far reaching implications beyond the USA.

thebestinterest · 07/11/2024 15:41

ByMerryKoala · 07/11/2024 15:27

Yes, because nothing engenders economic and political security more than an assassinated president.

we moved past it back in when Kennedy was assassinated.

ByMerryKoala · 07/11/2024 15:27

Yes, because nothing engenders economic and political security more than an assassinated president.

Devilsmommy · 07/11/2024 15:27

Lickthips · 07/11/2024 15:24

Trump is very pro gun and lots of innocent Americans die as a result of the US's lax attitude to gun ownership. If Trump falls foul of this I couldn't give one single, solitary fuck.

You're not wrong