To think this is going too far now? (Trump)

Just wrong. Anyway what's the point...he is a symptom of a broken society. A few years of chaos then the Dems will return promising change. Which won't happen. Then another rabble rouser appears. Rinse and repeat.

I’m surprised that you’re surprised. Did you read some of the posts on MN following the last assassination attempt? There were some really awful posts about people wishing it had been successful, ending with laughing emojis - honestly, we really don’t know who we live amongst. There’s some very sad, scary and evil people out there.

Explain the what you mean by best rights and freedoms in the world.
Abortion rights decimated across swathes of the country.
No statutory right to an even barely acceptable level of annual leave.
Maternity leave / pay is abysmal.
Freedom to bear arms = school shootings on an unprecedented scale.
The "right" to go bankrupt because of healthcare needs.
Books banned in school for the most spurious of reasons.
Please, explain what are the best in the world. I'd love to know.

Well it would be one way to start the next American Civil War, I suppose. Is that what this person really wants?

Oh how very Christian!
Wishing one person dead- and another one a murderer!
Like it or not, the country voted and he won.
Definitely gone too far!

It’s utterly unacceptable.

I personally think he’s an awful man but I not only respect democracy, I also think killing other people is wrong !

Can you imagine the outcry if a right wing individual said the same about Harris ?

I am an American and
despise Trump with the heat of a thousand fires. With that said, never would I wish him dead.

Recalls Melania's "I don't care" coat, that she wore to visit the refugee camps near the border.

I think he is evil, but - just as the death penalty for even the worst murderers makes us all complicit in revenge-murder- wishing for his assassination reduces us to his level.

More pragmatically, do those who wish for his death realize who would replace him???

Half my family are American, I know what it's like. Best freedoms in the world? You don't even have the statutory right to paid holidays.

A third of people who could vote either didn't register or didn't vote, that hardly screams involvement. Out of the entire population only 37% of eligible voters voted In all of the previous three national elections.

Trump controls the house, the senate and the judiciary, has been gifted exemption from prosecution for crimes while in office (including treason) and certainly doesn't need people to get behind him.

I'm not a Trump fan but he is the democratically elected President of the US. We have been fed a lot of v biased news reporting on both sides. We need to calm down, let the Americans run their own country, and stop getting into a froth about soundbites.

@DemonicCaveMaggot I agree - and while some issues may lend themselves to being dealt with on a state by state level, there are others that are too important to the nation and the global community to disband effective federal agencies - especially if the reason behind the disbanding is to benefit some private commercial interest.

I'm particularly concerned about FEMA, EPA and NOAA.

And the Department of Education - if you leave that purely to the State level you could have some states where generations of children are growing up without the safeguards they need.

I am a dual citizen and I don't think Americans are stupid, I lived in Huntsville, Alabama which has the highest number of PhDs per capita in the US due to the aerospace industry, NASA, and Redstone Arsenal so I met plenty of actual rocket scientists. I remember a case where the Mobile shipyards were using a particular tool in a way it was not designed for leading to the loss of fingers and hands. There was a call for OSHA to get involved on AL.com the local news site. The number of posts from Alabamians complaining that people should just be more careful and that OSHA should stay out of it was ridiculous. It was like working in dangerous conditions was somehow more admirable because there would be less government involvement.

I don't know if it is just a lack of awareness of how dangerous working conditions can get without EPA, OSHA, and the rest of the Federal alphabet or people just don't really want to be a UNITED states bur rather some kind of loosely allied gathering of states. I suspect the latter, and Trump eradicating EPA, Department of Education, and I don't know what else probably appeals to that mindset. It's similar to the Brexit mindset.

Washington

Virginia - you?

What state do you guys live in?

No, but it looks like he's going to get away with all the legal challenges and court cases against him - and one of the first steps in the 2025 project is to bring the FBI and the DOJ fully under the control of the Executive branch which would mean Trump using them to prosecute any one he wants and give a pass to anyone he chooses.

He can also do extreme harm using executive orders to exploit the national parks, stifle research by the NOAA into the effects of climate change and stack the courts with right wing Christian theologist judges which will affect the courts for decades to come.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/doj-evaluating-how-to-wind-down-two-federal-cases-against-trump-after-his-election-win

Really? How exactly because Biden and Obama did not do it. Democrats are in power for four years now? Obama was for eight? Why is up to Trump?

@MonkeyToHeaven -.OK, ignoring the thinly veiled 'Americans are stupid 'part of your post. My lived experience is that Americans are either complacent or disinterested quite the opposite. Your average American is a hard working person who wants to make sure they can feed their kids, pay their bills and.be rewarded for hard work. Trumpnas won, enough with the division. What we need to do now is get behind him & support so he can have the best presidency. That benefits us all. We live in a country with some of best rights and freedoms in the world. One man cannot change the constitution.

Are we definitely sure there have been ANY assassination attempts and not just more Trump fuckwittery?

If Trump stops giving away our secrets to Russia and you stop using our territories around the globe as bases for your troops and weapons then we have a deal.

What are you going to do when the world's reserve currency is no longer the dollar though? That's quite some debt Trump's run up and he is only going to pile on more.

I dislike Trump but I wouldn't wish assassination on anyone.

I hope not one American dollar nor one American life gets spent on Ukraine. Why do you want America to get involved so badly? It’s on your continent, you do something if it’s so important. It’s been how many years since WW2? Take care of your own security, NATO is only a venue for America to assert influence in Europe, don’t you want a bit of independence?

Of course that kind of statement has no place in any democracy. It's totally unacceptable for people to say stuff like this, even if they're supposedly joking - you never know if some other stupid fucker will decide to act on it.

I find Trump's views abhorrent and I think he is a deeply unpleasant and dangerous man. However, I would not wish violence on him under any circumstances.

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I sort of pleased he won by a landslide (in US terms). He is where he is, democratically elected, so let's suck it up. At least there's no arguments as to whether he should be in that position whether we like.it or not.

I know exactly what you mean.
Much as I despise the man and everything he stands for, I totally agree with you and said almost exactly the same thing to my OH this morning.