To think this is going too far now? (Trump)

When Trump stood in 2016, it's quite possible he didn't want to win. It was a publicity stunt. He could afford to say crazy things and not think through how he'd implement them. When he got into power he apparently spent a lot of time eating pizza and watching news reports about himself. He was mainly worried about things like crowd sizes. He didn't read any briefs he was given. He had sensible, experienced people around to run the show.

Now, he does have an agenda, and he's surrounded by people who back it. He's much more likely to put his plans into effect. This presidency could be quite different from his last.

Very true.

Add to this child marriage and no minimum age for gun ownership. I don’t think Americans are stupid, but they are deluded in thinking they have some of the best freedoms, what they have is the best marketing.

Leaving aside the ethics, I'm genuinely fascinated as to what your friend thinks it would achieve? Once he's president, he would just be succeeded by Vance, who has the exact same agenda but more intelligence, competence and self-discipline (and he's younger and eligible for a second term). Trump would be a martyr, the US would be more angry and polarised than ever and the 50%+ of voters who opted for him would still be there and voting.

this, in a nutshell.

Well, no, he won't be President till January.

I wouldn’t wish it on him but I certainly wouldn’t be sorry if it happened.

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The American people democratically elected him so they can suffer the consequences of his actions. His voters know what they voted for so I have limited sympathy. They like his machismo posturing and didn't want to critique what he says.
I just hope his impact on the rest of the world is limited as much as possible.
He's a vile human being but I don't wish for him to be assassinated. If he dies due to natural causes I certainly wouldn't shed a tear though.

Same here.

He's president elect ie not president until he is inorgrated on the 20th of January next year until that point Biden is still president

Best rights and freedoms in the world?? You're having a laugh, you should see America from the outside looking in.

timetodecide2345 · Yesterday 23:17
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I don't really care what happens to him. He's odious. I hate that he even enters my brain and I have to waste thought on him.

Share your view of this disgusting man. I do care though because Vance will be worse in every way.

I hope he makes it to the end of his term, when hopefully the opposition will have got its act together and put up a viable candidate.

dottiehens · Yesterday 17:40

MrsSkylerWhite · Yesterday 15:12
tbf, he could lessen the chances of that himself by restricting gun ownership.
Really? How exactly because Biden and Obama did not do it. Democrats are in power for four years now? Obama was for eight? Why is up to Trump?

Finest whataboutery.
Because he’s the President now, would have thought that was bleeding obvious.

I don't really care what happens to him. He's odious. I hate that he even enters my brain and I have to waste thought on him.

He is a symptom though of an ailing nation just like Brexit was for us. Civilisations rise and fall and if you look back at other powerful nations historically then they all that their Trump and Brexit moments on their way down.

It’s so crazy, an American friend of mine said she was scared that he wouldn’t allow women to drive or vote ever again… it’s all so hysterical.

Which parts of the news reports about Trump do you think are biased and untrue? The problem is only too much is amply evidenced because he doesn't make any attempt to hide his misogyny, hatred and bigotry.

Let him see out the 4 years and let it be a completely mediocre presidency in which none of his empty promises come to fruition. Let people see that he isn't the answer, never was and never could be. Let them see he doesn't give a flying fig about the average American. Let the democrats get themselves together while he bumbles along for four years talking nonsense.

Your so-called Christian friend is an enemy of democracy. Sounds a bit unhinged to be honest.

I wrote on some forum that his ma was from Skye. Immediately dozens of Skye folk came to tell me ' She was from Lewis - don't blame us ffs!" 😂

I wouldn't wish for it but also wouldn't be surprised if it happened

Absolutely - we know it’s not banter, we know he’s not going to suddenly become presidential and work for the people - we know this because even if we could give him and his team the benefit of the doubt in 2016 - we know now what they did in power.

We know that his promises to do something are all either bluster, lies and propaganda like building a wall that Mexico will pay for.

Or lies hiding actual destructive actions like trying to destroy the different government agencies and departments from within.

Loving the idea that it's all banter and that it will all be OK because we'll he was elected by the freestyle country in the world tripe.
The man is a monster and basically the Ukraine is fucked and therfore possible Poland. Women are fucked on America possibly for generations as he can now impose more fascist into the supreme court. Tariffs will fuck up the best/biggest economy in the west and therfore impact most western countries. He will change the longstanding protections on civil service workers and fill what positions with unqualified sycophantic ' bye bye and real regulatory controls on corporate America. Mass deportations if they happen will be both extraordinary expensive, massively damaging to the economy and will rip community's apart and otherwise anyone of colour or Latinos- if you are brown you will soon assumed to be illegal not just by the white majority but also by law enforcement- racism with be esconsed in society as the norm. God i could go on and on and on.

America has sleep walked into this and will fuck the rest of us longer term with thier stupidity.

Unfortunately his death will change nothing in this protection and possibly accelerate it as Vance is a pawn of a few fascist tech pros.

Anyone who thinks it will all be OK- check back here in 4 years and apologies

Ask his mother. People to be fair rarely understand those with an Islands of Scotland background. A lot of their 'banter' is tongue in cheek.

Those that understand the humour don't take it seriously. They are intelligent enough to know it's toung in cheek & they would never carry out half of what they shout about. They are merely bringing the issue to the surface

Time will tell