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To think new builds are too small

188 replies

Neuroticmillenial · 07/11/2024 12:31

Especially social housing.

Much prefer old style council houses with the smaller kitchens but larger living rooms and dining rooms.

I’m in a rented new build and I’d trade a hallway/porch and grassy garden for our bigger kitchen (bigger than living room) and downstairs toilet. Our stairs is less than 2 metres from our front door and it’s a pain with the buggy!

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SovietSpy · 07/11/2024 12:49

BrioNotBiro · 07/11/2024 12:42

There are government technical space standards that set out desired minimum sizes and housing associations conform to these. Private developers often don't for their cheaper houses. Ironically then, social housing is sometimes larger than private.

There is a huge housing shortage and pressure on land, especially in the south east. Developments are built to such high densities so the space standards and garden sizes of the old council houses are gone sadly.

I can see a PP has linked these standards, so are they legal min room sizes? Or just a recommendation if private developers don’t have to conform to them?

Bulletproofboobs · 07/11/2024 12:48

The days are long gone where you can get a large council house on a big plot, our population has increased massively and is only going to get worse with the demands on social housing, you can’t expect social housing as it was in the past, times have changed there are just too many people to house so small it is unless you have a budget to buy a large home that’s what you get these days.

Wtfdude · 07/11/2024 12:45

Like this one.
How is 2.3m on 1.4m a bedroom???
Yes. 1.4m! Single bed is 0.9x1.9. That leaves 50cm and less next to the bed each side.
I could put 1 foot infront of another and that is the spare space. Literally.

It should not be allowed to be classed as bedroom. Bedroom 2 is also quite shit. Pretty sure that just tiny bit longer than 30s semi box room...

https://www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-homes/dev002575-brun-lea-heights/plot-69-h850169/?location=Manchester

Seeline · 07/11/2024 12:43

SovietSpy · 07/11/2024 12:34

I agree. I think we should have minimum room sizes to prevent house builders making tiny ridiculous homes. I would also like to see all bedrooms (in new homes) have built in wardrobes as I think this is cost effective and sensible to have homes with storage built in as standard.

Technical housing standards – nationally described space standard

We do - they were introduced in 2016

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6123c60e8fa8f53dd1f9b04d/160519_Nationally_Described_Space_Standard.pdf

BrioNotBiro · 07/11/2024 12:42

There are government technical space standards that set out desired minimum sizes and housing associations conform to these. Private developers often don't for their cheaper houses. Ironically then, social housing is sometimes larger than private.

There is a huge housing shortage and pressure on land, especially in the south east. Developments are built to such high densities so the space standards and garden sizes of the old council houses are gone sadly.

OliviaRodrighost · 07/11/2024 12:39

Our first house was a new build with “three bedrooms”.

It was ludicrous and barely big enough for just me and DH. One of the bedrooms could fit a small single bed or desk and nothing else. The second bedroom could fit a double but you wouldn’t be able to move. The master bedroom had a totally unnecessary en-suite (as there is an upstairs bathroom and a cloakroom downstairs) and no storage. Even the garage wasn’t big enough for anything larger than a VW Golf.

The estate also had extremely narrow pavements (no doubt due to them wanting to squeeze extra houses in) so couldn’t be used by buggies, wheelchairs etc. Hideous.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 07/11/2024 12:39

I had an estate agent in stitches yesterday whilst talking about the box room at my mum's house. I was 5 when we moved in. As the youngest I got the smallest room and heard everyone who was youngest at school call their room the box room so that's what my bedroom got called. It's 10ft by 12 ft. The agent said don't view any new builds then.

Obviously I know it's not actually a box room now but kid logic and all.

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 07/11/2024 12:39

We have a new housing estate being built near us. I'm watching the foundations being put in place and can see the layout of the downstaira rooms. The rooms are small and pokey. I'm thinking one 3 piece suite and there's no space to move.

Went to look at the demo house, looks lovely, furnishings look good but if you really look properly, there's no wardrobe in the bedrooms, the sofas are 2 seater sofas and look slightly smaller than ur average size ones. Beds are small doubles etc...gardens are tiny, just a small square patch in the back. And on top of that, they're charging a small fortune for the privilege.

K0OLA1D · 07/11/2024 12:38

SovietSpy · 07/11/2024 12:34

I agree. I think we should have minimum room sizes to prevent house builders making tiny ridiculous homes. I would also like to see all bedrooms (in new homes) have built in wardrobes as I think this is cost effective and sensible to have homes with storage built in as standard.

100%. With easily swapped doors

SovietSpy · 07/11/2024 12:34

I agree. I think we should have minimum room sizes to prevent house builders making tiny ridiculous homes. I would also like to see all bedrooms (in new homes) have built in wardrobes as I think this is cost effective and sensible to have homes with storage built in as standard.

Wtfdude · 07/11/2024 12:33

Some absolutely are. Ridiculous sizes. 3bedrooms, 3bathrooms, in quare footage of what should be a 2bed flat🤦

K0OLA1D · 07/11/2024 12:33

I agree. All new builds under a certain budgets and sometimes over around here, are tiny. With bad layouts and small rooms. The 3rd bedroom is always made smaller for the addition of an ensuite, which i find crazy.

I lived in HA and it had really good sized rooms. It was built in the 40s. I'm now in my ex council 70s and again has a really well thought out layout, big rooms and big front and back garden and garage!

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 12:32

I think the UK has the smallest housing footprint in Europe.