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To wonder how I’m perceived as a bigger woman after the previous thread?

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Threecactusplants · 07/11/2024 10:25

After reading the previous thread about weight and how posters are always thinking about their weight (even when they are size 10 or 12!) which to me is crazy.
I used to be very slim as a child, in my teens and early 20s.
Since having my son I have ended up at a size 20/22. I am consistently that size and have been since he was born 6 years ago.
I don’t know exactly how much I weigh , but it’s around 16 stone and I’m 5’7.
I’m pretty comfortable with my weight, I don’t really think about it much. I don’t think I’m unattractive and I dress for my size. Lots of cord pinafore dresses, tights and boots are my go to. Also wide leg trousers, midi dresses and skirts. I have good boobs and a (big) bum 😂 I have a c section pouch which I’m not keen on, but that’s what comes with a 9lb baby I guess! My DH and I have great sex (sorry if TMI!)

After reading that thread, I’m wondering what people think of me when they see me around, for example I’m in a cafe now, having a coffee and a breakfast. It never bothered me before much; but after reading that thread I’m pretty taken aback!

OP posts:
malificent7 · 09/11/2024 07:57

I found it shocking how many women consider anything above a size 8 as larhe tbh! And envious that so many mumsnetters have wadhboard stomachs!
I bet you look great op.

Errors · 09/11/2024 07:44

I wouldn’t notice unless you were directly in my way. So if someone just stops in a doorway and you can’t get around them, that really winds me up!

Having said that, unpopular opinion though it may be, I do wonder how much the NHS has to spend on obesity-related illnesses.

LizzoBennett · 09/11/2024 07:30

If I see someone that is so overweight that it affects their walking gait then I do have a passing thought about how difficult life must be for them physically and mentally. Otherwise, I don't really pay much attention to other people's bodies.

I am in my mid thirties and have always been a size 8, apart from the few months postpartum with my two pregnancies. I don't think about my weight all of the time but I am aware if I have had an indulgent week and make sure I revert back to healthier habits the following week to prevent weight gain.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 09/11/2024 07:14

usernamealreadytaken · 08/11/2024 22:49

A BMI of 40+, or 35 with a health related problem, is morbidly obese. The poster is, at best, in the mid-range of obese. That is noticeable. The fact you “wouldn’t think twice” is shameful, and shows how ordinary and acceptable life-threatening obesity has become 😢

I agree with this. Obesity has now become the norm, there used to be shame associated with it. I think the term curvy has been hijacked when it used to mean boobs, bum and a waist not fat and overweight. At size 12 I was curvy because I had boobs and a waist. At the size I am now I am fat. I'm overweight and I hate it, I looked good 4 years ago but perimenopause hit me like a truck and I'm struggling to shift the weight (even this year I've put on half a stone).

I think we are doing overweight and obese people wrong by trying to say its normal and healthy to be that size. If they're happy with their size fine but let's not pretend it's a healthy size.

DisenchantedOwl · 09/11/2024 06:49

I have BDD and am constantly comparing myself to others and would likely notice you and clock you ere overweight but I wouldn't judge you for it. People are overweight for lots of reasons and I don't know what they are and it's not my place to judge. Your OP implies you carry your weight well, and I'd also noted they (as some people do (I do not) and feel envious of this and that you probably look more attractive than me. I am sure that your confidence in the way you look would also be apparent and I would be envious of that also.

Bossygal · 09/11/2024 06:26

I would not notice op. Many people are overweight, I don’t think people really give it any thought.

howver I would get some scales, simply at 15.7 at 5.7 I was a sixteen. So I think possibly for a 20/22, you could be much heavier, it’s important to know for your health.

Garlicpest · 09/11/2024 05:57

Yepyepyepducky · 07/11/2024 16:46

I disagree, ppl comment on my size regularly
You're pretty for a fat lass
Big bird
You'd be prettier if you lost weight
Your too fat for short hair
Fatttttyyyyyyyyy ( shouted from a vehicle)
Longer hair would look better
Fat twat/bitch/c*nt
Move you lump ( in the supermarket)
Are you so fat you can't walk ? ( I use a mobility scooter)
Who ate all the pies? ( Ordering a black coffee in a cafe)
A guy at the gym walked behind me making sound effects
( Not all the comments have been from men)

Edited
Shock This is awful. I'm sorry people can be such utter twunts.

I read part of the other thread: it was an interesting question, but the answers were depressing to me.

I used to notice other people's body size - women and men - when I was slim and, more relevantly, eating disordered. After I fixed that, I lost interest. It does register when somebody's so obese they can barely walk, or so thin that they're skeleton-shaped. Other than that, I could probably tell you if someone was 'solid', 'slim', 'rounded' or similar, but I'm uninterested in it.

Last week, I met up with a friend who invests a lot of time, effort and money in her appearance. She kept asking if I'd lost weight. I haven't - it never changes - but she always asks. I know that, to her, this is meant to be a compliment and to start a conversation about diets, exercise and the post-menopausal waistline. But I just do not fucking care. Already been there, it's boring and unhealthy.

Just to add - I'm still really interested in fashion, so I do notice if someone is dressed really well and/or interestingly for their body shape. So, in that sense, I will notice when a young woman is fat and has successfully highlighted her curves, or a large older woman emphasises her presence with swathes of luxurious cloth.

Areolaborealis · 09/11/2024 05:06

So many people are overweight - I think size 20-22 just blends into the crowd. I would only take note if you were monstrously obese like in US documentaries.

Thefsm · 09/11/2024 04:47

My mother in law is polish. She refers to anyone even slightly big as “that great big fat person” or “that fat pig”. Even though I am a 2xl and she doesn’t say it to me but I know she thinks it. She constantly obsesses over her own weight as she has developed a tummy with age. I know she prefers my brother in laws girlfriend because she is a yoga practicing goddess of perfect health and fitness and also tiny and petite.

I never stopped her saying those things till my son (who is dangerously overweight I think and worried about him myself - 6ft 5” and pushing 300lb giant of a guy) got a girlfriend. Who is shortish and plus size but beautiful half Chinese half Cambodian. My mother in law said “she must eat like a pig, I’ve never seen a fat Chinese person before.” It was horrible and I asked her to stop.

i think a lot of people sadly view us larger women this way. I hate my own body and weight but I’m on depression meds that make weight loss super hard. And honestly I don’t feel well enough to try to get thin. I’ve been plus sized ever since my kids were born and it probably contributed to my marriage failing too.

usernamealreadytaken · 08/11/2024 22:49

Nogaxeh · 07/11/2024 10:32

Your BMI works out at around 35, so I'd guess although (like me) it would be good for your long-term health to lose some weight, you're not so big that it would be that noticeable. I wouldn't think twice about it if I saw you.

A BMI of 40+, or 35 with a health related problem, is morbidly obese. The poster is, at best, in the mid-range of obese. That is noticeable. The fact you “wouldn’t think twice” is shameful, and shows how ordinary and acceptable life-threatening obesity has become 😢

LaineyCee · 08/11/2024 21:33

At size 20/22 you will be obese and everyone who encounters you will be able to see that, but they’ll all have individual reactions to your obesity. Some will be negative (stereotypes of laziness and gluttony, maybe pity), some positive (curvy, a “real” woman) and some will have absolutely no reaction at all (they’re so focused on other aspects of you/themselves/the world, that your body doesn’t register.)

Deeperthantheocean · 08/11/2024 21:29

To be completely honest, I don't think anything about anyone when I'm.out and about! My head is far too busy with my own stuff, I look around and take things in to a minimum degree, like everyone it seems. (Many are just on their phones and notice nothing). Occasionally I may notice someone who stands out, usually because they're being loud or what their wearing stands out, but even then, nano second brain reaction, then back to thinking about a million things! X

jwnib · 08/11/2024 20:48

@clearquote bit more normal than posting over 100 times on MN in one day Wink P.S. made you look.

Jack80 · 08/11/2024 20:28

I haven't read the thread, I'm a size 12 and 9.10/10 stone I vary. I'm happy enough and I know I cut eat healthier if I wanted to and I could exercise more. I used to be a size 8 then a 10 after my children now the weight I am. I think we all have our hang ups. I do feel for really big ladies with the prolapse but never comment.

Pomegranatecarnage · 08/11/2024 20:03

I wouldn’t look at a woman of the size you describe yourself and think anything about your weight. I’d probably notice your clothes and think you looked very cool.

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Aria999 · 08/11/2024 19:11

May get flamed for this....

I do sometimes feel sorry for very obese people as (based on my own slightly messed up thinking) I feel like they may feel unhappy or helpless and I think about how hard it must be having to squeeze into seats or carry all that weight as you go upstairs or up a hill.

That's normally when someone is not carrying it well and doesn't look very happy though.

If you look good with it I would probably just notice you look good and maybe be impressed by you achieving that (as I never feel like I look good when I feel myself to be overweight).

MustWeDoThis · 08/11/2024 19:09

Threecactusplants · 07/11/2024 10:25

After reading the previous thread about weight and how posters are always thinking about their weight (even when they are size 10 or 12!) which to me is crazy.
I used to be very slim as a child, in my teens and early 20s.
Since having my son I have ended up at a size 20/22. I am consistently that size and have been since he was born 6 years ago.
I don’t know exactly how much I weigh , but it’s around 16 stone and I’m 5’7.
I’m pretty comfortable with my weight, I don’t really think about it much. I don’t think I’m unattractive and I dress for my size. Lots of cord pinafore dresses, tights and boots are my go to. Also wide leg trousers, midi dresses and skirts. I have good boobs and a (big) bum 😂 I have a c section pouch which I’m not keen on, but that’s what comes with a 9lb baby I guess! My DH and I have great sex (sorry if TMI!)

After reading that thread, I’m wondering what people think of me when they see me around, for example I’m in a cafe now, having a coffee and a breakfast. It never bothered me before much; but after reading that thread I’m pretty taken aback!

People who stare at others with a negative viewpoint as usually insecure, bitter, and jealous...and sometimes hangry.

Lifeofthepartay · 08/11/2024 19:05

It is not only about looking good or having great sex, if you are a size 20/22 you are most likely obese/morbidly obese depending on your height, this will have negative health effects and reduce your mobility specially when you are a bit older regardless on how good you look on your outfits... saying that I don't think most people will think twice about a strangers weight...it's you who should be doing something about it.

SharpOpalNewt · 08/11/2024 19:03

Bubblebuttress · 08/11/2024 18:39

Isnt it only the tall lady who is a normal bmi?

I would love to be 70kg and would be a size 10 at 5'7" at that weight. Would definitely look slim. I wouldn't want to be slimmer than that now at 49.

DD2 is 70kg and 5'10 and is a size 8.

5128gap · 08/11/2024 18:58

RebeccaRedhat · 08/11/2024 18:42

4 years ago I lost 7 stone. Then I gained 1 back. And recently I've lost another 2.5 stone. My weight is now 10 st, size 10 and I've never been more paranoid/obsessed with it than I am right now! I hoped once I was slim my worries would all disappear.

Welcome to the fresh hell of dreading going back to being fat... 😔

OhcantthInkofaname · 08/11/2024 18:55

I notice others and the imagine the difficulty they will have in the future if they maintain a high BMI. Regardless of what they believe -- their health is suffering now.
Add on I'm in the US and have my scale set to kg. 54.5 BMI 20+.

RebeccaRedhat · 08/11/2024 18:42

4 years ago I lost 7 stone. Then I gained 1 back. And recently I've lost another 2.5 stone. My weight is now 10 st, size 10 and I've never been more paranoid/obsessed with it than I am right now! I hoped once I was slim my worries would all disappear.

Bubblebuttress · 08/11/2024 18:39

BadSkiingMum · 07/11/2024 12:06

I have, thankfully, never really had body hang-ups and rarely weighed myself so it took me years to actually notice that I was overweight and even longer to want to do anything about it! But I am (BMI 26.5) so I have begun calorie counting for health reasons.

But it's still not really appearance-related - I am far more bothered about other parts of life - this is just my outer casing!

So much is socially determined - where do you stop dieting? The camera adds pounds and I suspect that many women in the public eye who are deemed to be 'slim' are actually quite underweight. I find this photo interesting - click on it to see the BMIs. At 70kg a woman has to be taller than 5'8" to look 'slim', even though several of the women are within healthy BMI.

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Isnt it only the tall lady who is a normal bmi?

Supersares · 08/11/2024 18:05

I think back in the day when the average BMI was lower overweight people did stand out as they were in the minority. However these days there is so much more diversity in people’s shapes and sizes that in general you don’t give anyone else’s weight a second thought.