Play date in XL Bully house

there is literally one thing that lay people can do in the event of an attack by a dog like this which is worth knowing, and that is to form a choke using anything available (eg any lead turns into a choke lead by pulling the end through the handle) and attempting to choke the dog out.

You first.

Ask if they'd be happy for their child to have a play date at your house instead.

But first reassure them that your pet alligator is very well trained and a big softy.

Be honest & say how you feel & that's it's no reflection of them as dog owners it's just your anxiety about it that's stopping you form allowing your Son to go. Ask if they'd be happy for their child to have a play date at your house instead.

It may be useless but to add to your post, there is literally one thing that lay people can do in the event of an attack by a dog like this which is worth knowing, and that is to form a choke using anything available (eg any lead turns into a choke lead by pulling the end through the handle) and attempting to choke the dog out. Hitting, poking the eyes, poking the bum/genitals are all mostly ineffective as fighting breeds were bred for gameness. If you saw an attack happen on a human or animal, this is what you can try to do.

I certainly wouldn’t knowingly get my child in a situation where I might need to use this, though.

I totally agree with you. Nice families don't own these dogs. They should never have been domesticated. Also, attending with the child wouldn't make a scrap of difference, it is regularly reported that these dogs have taken down and killed fully grown adults, this is not a breed you can protect your child from, if it attacks, you're as useless to your child as a limp piece of asparagus, as is anyone else in the room.

Nah.
Can you explain (given the history of XL Bullies) why you think anyone would choose to own one?

IMO, "nice families" don't own buy these dogs.

I'd just say "No, thank you, but I'd be too worried about the dog. Does your DC want to come here on Tursday instead?" She must surely know that opinions and fears run high around these breeds and for good reason.

Would you really take the chance and have your kid become one of the statistics?

Those dogs are like having a smouldering Molotov cocktail in your hand.

I'd go as far as to consider you neglectful if you let your child visit that house for a play date.

Would you let DC visit a paedophile because you wouldn't want to hurt the paedo's feelings? No one puts their child in danger.

The sooner people start to speak up about these monster dogs, the sooner their owners will realise that reasonable people won't pander to them anymore.

As a Rottweiler owner myself I am quite sure there are people like yourself that would be wary of coming to my house with their children. I certainly don't think you're being unreasonable, but at same time It sounds like a nice family, could you not go with your child and spend the time with the lady u know then your child is safe or just invite them to yours, but I would be honest about that you were wary about the dog. The dog may well be fine if it's looked after. Yes they are stronger than most dogs hence the worst injuries/deaths but all dogs have the potential to attack ( which is why I have to be in total control of mine)

Absolutely no way! Please don't risk it. It doesn't matter how friendly this dog is, they are banned for a reason - the nicest, gentlest XL bullies have turned.

I have border collies and I would not be offended, much less expect, young children to be around them. All dogs can bite and you should exercise caution -- but one will ensure your child never comes home.

Oh my fucking god why are you even contemplating it

"Dear xlbullyowner

Unfortunately these dogs are dangerous and I will not be allowing my children near them

They're welcome to come and play at our house!

Cheers"

I agree. Plus no one likes a lot of insincere waffle.

God no..
Most or all owners of XLs say they are lovely dogs la la la.
They're not. They are killers

I agree

It’s unlikely you are the first for this reason and most certainly won’t be the last but maybe the only one who has been honest and don’t fall for the dog will be kept away from the children nonsense

she is stupid she putting her children at risk willingly everyday she has that dog

the government really need to do something urgently to keep children safe from such stupid parents

I disagree. You shouldn’t have to lie - it’s perfectly reasonable to just say “I don’t feel comfortable about a play date in a house with an XL Bully” and leave it at that. Maybe the Mum gets offended but frankly she should be embarrassed for having such a dangerous dog in a house with children.

A bit like asking if you would send them to a friend's house who owns a lion really! Definitely just say no!

Another attack happened on a five year old child, poor thing. 😥

Sorry for all the awful typos!!! Hope beyond the typo errors my message still gets across 🙏

Pretens you’ve had a bad experience with an bully type of breed .. and say ‘i might be being OTT but I hope you understand..’

if she doesn’t then it’s not the end of world

BUT if you fear to ‘piss her off’ and end up making your LO go and G forbid something happens .. like the bully dog just doesn’t take to your DC (territorial- very common) and G forbid your child gets injured , disfigured or WORSE then you’d NEVER EVER EVER FORGIVE yourself .. and these dogs are always ‘lovely and wouldn’t hurt a fly ‘ until the first they DO .. and then you’ll wished you had said an instant NO in the first place ..

I’ve worked with nearly every breed for decades and none can be 100 percent trusted ESPECIALLY these breeds

if you’re worried on your wording as you sound super polite and don’t want to sound ‘precious’ (cause i’m the same!) you could simply write this -

Dear School mum,
thank you so very much for inviting my dc to your home for a lovejy play date! However there was a very bad situation that happened as that I won’t go into but involved the exact same breed as your fur member of family!
My DC knows about this and because dogs are super clever and not to mention proper rice and territorial I worry that dc will give vibes off to your beloved dog!
I truly believe your dog must be a big lovely gentle giant and he sounds like a beaut full friendly dog being part of your and your dcs family!
I could be ‘overreacting’ but K thought you’d appreciate me just be upfront , frank and honest in why I’m going to have to decline!
However if you ever want to get all of our dc together at a family restaurant or a costa for hot choc and cake or a cinema trip before christmas we’d be more than up for that! Also your dc is always welcome to come to ours for a play date
thank you for your understanding and kindness
DC Mum x

How did the conversation go with the dimwitted XL bully owner @Bonneylass?

Absolutely no way I’d be going.

As a fully grown adult, who has worked exclusively with dogs for many years, even I wouldn't go into a house with an XL bully. So not a chance in hell I'd allow my children! I point blank refuse to work with these dogs, and if I see them out, I will cross the road or change direction. Why ANYONE has them in their house, especially a house with children, I will never understand.

No way. It’s mad that she has an XL bully in a house with children in to start with, but at least you can control that you will not send your child into that house.

Definitely no... you can't replace your child because you darent protect them. I live near the place the 10yt old was killed and after vixx taulorngoing in the river it's hit the community hard. Don't risk the life of your child with any dog. I've always had rottweilers . Once my grandchildren arrived i rehomed it to a friend.