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To put in a flexible working request because I live so far away?

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whatsthatsupposetobeaboutbaby · 06/11/2024 23:09

Is that a valid reason?

My travel is so expensive and with how much my outgoings have increased by it’s getting to the point where it’s like I go to work and I can’t eat that day.

Sometimes I go into the office and I have zero meetings and zero interactions and no other team members are in (we have no anchor days) and it’s a 2 hour commute and costs me £100 a week.

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StudioFocusTricky · 07/11/2024 08:30

If it doesn't cause inconvenience to your employers then it's hopefully not a big deal, but if it would be a problem for then it would be entirely legitimate for them to consider that the location of your home relative to your place of work is entirely within your power - you choose where to live and which jobs to apply for and if the commute is too much the normal thing to do would be to change one or the other. But hopefully if it's no bother for them then it won't come down to making that choice.

There's a difference between looking back at the end of a day and noting that you had no face-to-face interactions all day, and knowing at the beginning of a day that you will 100% definitely not have any face-to-face interactions all day because there is zero chance of any walk-in queries etc.

ItTook9Years · 07/11/2024 08:27

For some reason MN is always particularly terrible for employment advice.

AIBU is a terrible place for employment advice. The work board isn’t. ;)

lasagnelle · 07/11/2024 08:24

If no one else is in then I don't see why you need to be in. I'd ask. Also ask if it's possible to arrange a "team day" when you're all in the office on the same day to best utilise the office time

ilovedogsme · 07/11/2024 08:18

whatsthatsupposetobeaboutbaby · 06/11/2024 23:09

Is that a valid reason?

My travel is so expensive and with how much my outgoings have increased by it’s getting to the point where it’s like I go to work and I can’t eat that day.

Sometimes I go into the office and I have zero meetings and zero interactions and no other team members are in (we have no anchor days) and it’s a 2 hour commute and costs me £100 a week.

No other team members are in - do some of them have flexi or wfh?

VioletCrawleyForever · 07/11/2024 08:13

You'd be better posting in the work forum or asking this to be moved.

In AIBU you get a lot of arsey opinions from people who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

In the work forum you will get sound and informed advice

Scaredgf · 07/11/2024 08:12

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There is. "Legislation" provides that any employee can ask for flexible working for any reason at all, and the decision is based on business needs, there's no reason that's "better" than another.

VioletCrawleyForever · 07/11/2024 08:10

The reason isn't relevant.

You don't have to share your reason. And their decision should have nothing to do with your reason.

Your request needs to set out how it can work and how you can overcome any difficulties.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/11/2024 08:07

You don't have to give a reason

redskydarknight · 07/11/2024 07:54

I agree with others that you can absolutely request, but it doesn't mean that you will get.

However, your set up seems very strange. Have you spoken to your manager about how you come into the office and basically sit at a desk on your own? Maybe it would be a good plan to introduce team days?

Although, it sounds like you would be better looking for another job anyway.

PinkFrogss · 07/11/2024 07:50

For some reason MN is always particularly terrible for employment advice. Although insulting someone for knowing the legislation takes the biscuit.

OP have a read through this: https://www.gov.uk/flexible-working

Your work most likely have a flexible working policy, if so have a read through that as well.

YANBU to fulfill your legal right to make a flexible working request, and appeal if necessary.

ACAS have a helpline you can ring for more specific guidance as well - I’d trust them over MNetters for employment law advice any day!

Flexible working

Requesting flexible working, how to make an application, what business reasons an employer can give to reject an application and how to appeal.

https://www.gov.uk/flexible-working

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 07/11/2024 07:38

whatsthatsupposetobeaboutbaby · 06/11/2024 23:23

It isn’t their problem. However when I took the job I thought we’d be in more as a team or I’d have meetings I needed to attend.

I’m extremely bored in this job and my manager has even commented that she’s worried that me and the other team member will get bored.

It’s sometimes soul destroying to get up for 5am and not be home for 7pm when all you’ve done is sit at a desk.

Welcome to the world of work

whatatodoaboutnothing · 07/11/2024 07:35

Why not get a job closer to home if you don’t even like this one?

ibbydibby · 07/11/2024 07:34

OP have a look at the info on ACAS on flexible working. As others have already said the law changed earlier this year, and employers have to grant flexible working requests unless there is a business case not to. A colleague recently submitted a request to work entirely from home, only 7 miles from our place of enployment. Request was turned down. He appealed. Decision overturned, and he will now be permanently working from home.

These are the conditions for a request to be turned down:

To put in a flexible working request because I live so far away?
GreatScroller · 07/11/2024 07:19

A lot of offices are extremely flexible with hours and being in the office. I work one day a week in the office and more if there is a meeting I need to be in for. I only live 10 mins away so it’s not a problem either way for me. Our office is we happy for people to work from home as everyone seems happy and there isn’t many issues not only that they were running out of space so it worked out well. You can always put it in and they can say yes or no! That’s it, you might find they are flexible and it’s not a problem et all. Not sure why everyone is being weird about it, since Covid most office roles are hybrid

Kitkat1523 · 07/11/2024 02:02

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I’m nhs….since the new legislation came in, there is new policy for flexi workingrequest….we do not have to give any reason for our request…..there is no where on the paperwork for ‘a reason’ ……therefore no reason is taken into account……we often have no one in the office ….it’s not a problem…..we all have phones and laptops

JollyPinkFox · 07/11/2024 00:21

OP does your company have a sustainability policy? We consider working from home to be better for the environment as reduced travel emissions. I would put several reasons on the request to bolster it, so for example - your presence in the office is not needed as others are not there so you can do your work at home, but you’d be happy to come in for team meetings etc; increased cost of travel: better work life balance from duration of travel; improved sustainability for the organisation by reduced travel

whiteboardking · 06/11/2024 23:58

Do it. Be honest about cost to sit at a desk

NotSoRosyOnTheHill · 06/11/2024 23:47

Does your employer have a process for requesting flexible working? My employer has a form that we need to complete. It doesn’t ask for the reason as that isn’t relevant in their decision making. It does ask that you show how this will work and to demonstrate that it won’t be detrimental to the company.

U3ern4me · 06/11/2024 23:40

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Cardinalita90 · 06/11/2024 23:37

You may be entitled to put a request in but be prepared for it to be rejected and a new initiative to drive colleagues to be in at the same time. This may be a good second outcome for you but consider how it will go down with your colleagues. Not saying you'd be wrong to do it but that to me seems the most likely outcome.

Onthesideofthespiders · 06/11/2024 23:36

OP, the new legislation came in fairly recently and a lot of people (as shown on this thread) are unaware of it or how it must be applied. Just put your request in.

notprincehamlet · 06/11/2024 23:33

Of course YANBU - there's a col crisis and a housing crisis. For many of us not on 6 figure salaries WFH is the only way we can just about make ends meet.

whatsthatsupposetobeaboutbaby · 06/11/2024 23:33

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I’m not requesting to be a home worker, I’m just asking to reduce my office days from 3 to 2 or even 1. With the exception being when there is a legitimate reason (such as a face to face meeting) that requires me to be in.)

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Bloatedbelly · 06/11/2024 23:32

Onthesideofthespiders · 06/11/2024 23:27

Right. But it doesn’t. They have to follow a very specific set of rules for refusing it.

As the other poster said to you ‘you are full of yeast’ 😂

You must live in a dream world spiders. Employers also must give everyone the exact same pay rises and promotions regardless of gender/race/disability. Oh wait what’s that thing called…. Discrimination! Gender pay gaps!

Do you honestly think employers decide on flexible working requests purely based on an objective set of tick boxes and no human element? Yes in a big company with very tight controls and HR. No in every other company around the country.

Onthesideofthespiders · 06/11/2024 23:27

Bloatedbelly · 06/11/2024 23:26

You might think it doesn’t (and maybe technically shouldn’t) but of course it will!

If you put down it takes too long to get there they will likely think that’s your own fault for choosing to live so far away and have little empathy. Unless the companies moved why should they allow an exception? Why wouldn’t all the employees move to Cornwall and expect a London salary etc…

I would write down something like that I find it much easier to concentrate and work in a quieter environment. Or that saving on the commuting time allows me to have a much better life balance and has had huge boosts for my wellbeing. Or that wage increases haven’t kept up with the cost of living increases and I’m struggling to be able to afford my mortgage/rent and the train travel. Inflation was X, train tickets went up X, my mortgage/rent went up X but my salary only went up Y (at least you might get a pay rise)

Right. But it doesn’t. They have to follow a very specific set of rules for refusing it.

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