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Or is my husband - doesn't want sex unless stop cosleeping with DC

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dhnosex · 06/11/2024 22:53

DC is just under 3. Cosleeps with us for about half a year now.
I love the cosleeping - it leads to more sleep for me and in all honesty I love waking up to the tiny sleepy face or the little hugs I get in the middle of the night, DH not so much - he occasionally gets woken up by DC turning over in the night and DH believes a bed should just be for parents.
We have a large and comfortable sofa (for sex or to sleep in) and a spare bedroom (which, in fairness is full of clutter and used as a storage room but has a bed).
DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.
DC sleeps through the night when we cosleep but wakes up every couple of hours if we sleep apart. Inevitably I'm the one that has to resettle DC if they wake up because DH absolutely can't (DC will not go back to sleep, just gets more agitated). If we were to end cosleeping I'd just end up marching back and forth between our room and DC's all night, or camping in DC's room.
So... who is being unreasonable? Him for wanting DC out of our bed and threatening no sex until I do or me for not wanting to kick DC out? What solutions do I have? I do want sex, in theory could easily live without it but it's not great for a marriage to be sexless.

OP posts:
SleeplessInWherever · 08/11/2024 07:27

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:18

Your experience is very limited in fairness! It does make a huge difference.

My experience as a mother of three adults has been denigrated here but thank fuck, I couldn't give a shiny shit! Fortunately I don't need validation from randoms on a public site, but people could learn from me! I'm not about to waste that experience on randoms who think they know better!

It’s not. I’d get into the specifics of why but I can’t actually be bothered.

The thing is - you evidently do give a shiny shit and need validation, or you’d have not wasted your precious time shouting at strangers about your wonderful parenting. It’s very clear that you are very bothered.

Congratulations on raising your three children to adulthood.

I’m sure you’ve done a great job, however personally I’m not sure it’s necessary we all present you with a round of applause and a Mother Medal for bringing up your own kids.

Astrabees · 08/11/2024 07:12

@adriftinadenofvipers I see you are now trying to justify your argument on the basis that your chilldren turned out better than ours? Really?

DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 06:50

Do,people really behave like that in a marriage @PostScriptum or do they just post stuff like that on anonymous forums as advice for other people?

It's a good idea to get her son sleeping through the night given his age but to carry this out as a side issue on a revenge plot...

ShiteRider · 08/11/2024 06:45

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:19

Have you never shagged on the sofa? What is wrong with you?! lol

Regardless of hygiene, shagging on a sofa is uncomfortable and unappealing. I really can’t understand why some people think that it’s wrong to not have sex somewhere that you don’t want to.

You both like it? Crack on. But to accuse someone of being manipulative or pathetic because they don’t want to have sex under certain conditions is really concerning.

Moonflower6 · 08/11/2024 05:22

Scirocco · 07/11/2024 13:55

Cats would Judge such shenanigans with a capital J.

Yep they would indeed!

PostScriptum · 08/11/2024 05:06

OP, you are NOT being unreasonable.
unlike PP, you know your child best, you know your life circumstances- there must be a reason why your child needs you at night… (perhaps catching up for mummy time if you’re working long hours or something else)

In fact, I would congratulate you for finding a way to ensure everyone gets some sleep by co sleeping. Your husband should be grateful and happy, but he isn’t.
i think you should allow him to EXPERIENCE the set up he is proposing so that he could actually appreciate co sleeping.

The response to your DH might be:

“Honey, you are right, let’s try keeping this bed just for us. Since I was looking after our DC during the nights for last 6 months (by cosleeping), it is only fair - that for next 6 months you will be looking after DC at nights.”

let your DH march to DC’s room at night when DC inevitably calls out multiple times and DH to stay there until DC settles - no matter how long it takes. Use earplugs if needed yourself (it won’t last more than few nights)

my guess is that after a few such nights (when DH actually has to do the nighttime care), DH will only be HAPPY and GRATEFUL for the co sleeping arrangement.

HolyPeaches · 08/11/2024 00:36

Babyboomtastic · 08/11/2024 00:30

Isn't that what big throws/blankets are for?

Not a fan of throws and blankets on my sofa.

But I don’t think they were invented just so people could use them to have sex on…

HolyPeaches · 08/11/2024 00:35

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:19

Have you never shagged on the sofa? What is wrong with you?! lol

Nowts wrong with me, don’t worry. But to answer your question yes, I’ve shagged on sofas. Only sofas when I knew it was just me and previous partners sitting on them afterwards.

Kids in the house, who also sit on the sofa. Shagging = in the bed.

Babyboomtastic · 08/11/2024 00:30

HolyPeaches · 07/11/2024 23:46

Sex on the sofa is absolutely fine if it’s only you and your spouse who sits on there.

But if you have guests and children who sit on it also, after youve shagged that’s fucking vile. Not repressed at all.

Isn't that what big throws/blankets are for?

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:21

My former childminder used to shag my very married neighbour on her sofa, and my kids had to sit on it! WTF do you suggest I should have done???

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:19

HolyPeaches · 08/11/2024 00:17

Clean what?

My already clean sofa that I use to sit on, or yours, after your and your H have shagged on it?

Have you never shagged on the sofa? What is wrong with you?! lol

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:18

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 23:43

Oh stop it. Having one child or 17 doesn’t make any difference here.

Are parents of one child inferior somehow? Shall they ALL report straight to the spare room?

Your experience is very limited in fairness! It does make a huge difference.

My experience as a mother of three adults has been denigrated here but thank fuck, I couldn't give a shiny shit! Fortunately I don't need validation from randoms on a public site, but people could learn from me! I'm not about to waste that experience on randoms who think they know better!

HolyPeaches · 08/11/2024 00:17

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:14

Just fucking clean it!

Clean what?

My already clean sofa that I use to sit on, or yours, after your and your H have shagged on it?

adriftinadenofvipers · 08/11/2024 00:14

HolyPeaches · 07/11/2024 23:46

Sex on the sofa is absolutely fine if it’s only you and your spouse who sits on there.

But if you have guests and children who sit on it also, after youve shagged that’s fucking vile. Not repressed at all.

Just fucking clean it!

HolyPeaches · 07/11/2024 23:46

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 22:33

OMG I'm old and I have still had sex on the sofa! What a deeply repressed attitude!

Sex on the sofa is absolutely fine if it’s only you and your spouse who sits on there.

But if you have guests and children who sit on it also, after youve shagged that’s fucking vile. Not repressed at all.

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 23:43

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:39

You think. With your one child. Sure.

Oh stop it. Having one child or 17 doesn’t make any difference here.

Are parents of one child inferior somehow? Shall they ALL report straight to the spare room?

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:39

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 23:35

I would like mine to feel secure and safe without me, and to learn early that their bedroom isn’t distressing.

I won’t be backing up their (incorrect) idea that they need constant parental presence, even when they’re asleep, or that their bedroom isn’t their safe place.

In other news - he’s actually awake, having been asleep since 9pm, if you know anyone who’s interested in co-sleeping!

I have lots “of clue,” thanks. You’re stuck on a condescending angry loop at this point.

You think. With your one child. Sure.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 07/11/2024 23:35

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:27

And he is doing fuck all to change the situation!! Because he 'can't settle' their child??

well what can he do. She has made it clear that she 'likes it with DC in their bed' and won't hear of changing that.
The relationship is stuffed tbh

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 23:35

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:26

And I think you are talking utter shit. Having your children in bed with you actually develops their confidence, because they feel totally secure and safe. Leading them to be comfortable to move out to their own room when they are ready means that they never suffer any distress

My children who co-slept with me have gone on to have the most amazing life experiences. I am not going to share those because it would be outing, but they have lived in places and had experiences way beyond the average. I am so proud of them, and they have achieved so much. So please don't patronise me. I've no interest.

You know what you can do with your 'apron strings'. You don't have the first clue!

I would like mine to feel secure and safe without me, and to learn early that their bedroom isn’t distressing.

I won’t be backing up their (incorrect) idea that they need constant parental presence, even when they’re asleep, or that their bedroom isn’t their safe place.

In other news - he’s actually awake, having been asleep since 9pm, if you know anyone who’s interested in co-sleeping!

I have lots “of clue,” thanks. You’re stuck on a condescending angry loop at this point.

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 07/11/2024 23:33

We currently have a co-sleeping 5 year old.

Most of our sex happens downstairs when he’s asleep up in our bed…. not ideal but clearly we’re not going to have sex near him and we don’t want no sex.

Or we schedule lunch breaks where we can have sex in our bed.

It may not be spontaneous etc but it’s still enjoyable and keeps us sexually connected. One day I’m sure we’ll get our bed back to ourselves!

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:32

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 22:57

Just don’t think shouting is necessary.

Firstly - reared. I’ll just leave that there.

I’m obviously pleased your children survived to adulthood, but personally I don’t feel the need to watch them sleep to do it. I’d never tell my husband to live in the spare bedroom so I could do that either - I think that’s incredibly isolating, and devaluing.

With respect, those of us who disagree with you don’t have to follow your rules of “rearing” children; or even agree with them. Some people think cosleeping as a long term solution is excessive, and that adults matter too. Some of us also don’t want to spend every single second of the day with a child. And they’re all okay opinions to have too.

Before/if you tell me it’s a good idea to cosleep because of sleep deprivation. Trust me on this - you would be preaching to the entirely wrong exhausted choir. I’m deprived of sleep AND don’t want to co-sleep.

Whatever. I am now officially bored with the individuals who know nothing about co-sleeping and are dissing the experience of someone who does.

I actually feel sorry for parents who haven't had the positive experience that I did, but I am not prepared to argue any more with my detractors.

I'm so happy with the life I've had with my husband and my children, and no amount of criticism can impact on that.

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:27

AgainandagainandagainSS · 07/11/2024 23:20

well not a lot because the kid is in his bed!

And he is doing fuck all to change the situation!! Because he 'can't settle' their child??

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:26

Arraminta · 07/11/2024 23:22

I didn't say it, either. I suggest you follow your own advice and read what I wrote more carefully?

You did, however, say that having sex while a child was present in the room 'was normal and natural'. Yes?

No, quote me where I said that!

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 23:26

SleeplessInWherever · 07/11/2024 23:02

Happily.

I think that keeping your children in bed with you because of your attachment to them, because you want them next to you rather than in their own bed, or because it’s easier for you, is unhealthy and clingy.

I believe it holds them back from developing independence in early childhood, and risks making them think and feel they can’t cope without you. That’s not a message I’d happily give a child.

Hence - apron strings.

And I think you are talking utter shit. Having your children in bed with you actually develops their confidence, because they feel totally secure and safe. Leading them to be comfortable to move out to their own room when they are ready means that they never suffer any distress

My children who co-slept with me have gone on to have the most amazing life experiences. I am not going to share those because it would be outing, but they have lived in places and had experiences way beyond the average. I am so proud of them, and they have achieved so much. So please don't patronise me. I've no interest.

You know what you can do with your 'apron strings'. You don't have the first clue!

Arraminta · 07/11/2024 23:22

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/11/2024 22:58

WTF did I EVER say I ever had sex with any of my children present???!

I won't say what I would like to say to you because you are not worth being banned over! What is wrong with you? Read what I actually posted! What a disgusting accusation which is totally without foundation!!

I didn't say it, either. I suggest you follow your own advice and read what I wrote more carefully?

You did, however, say that having sex while a child was present in the room 'was normal and natural'. Yes?