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Or is my husband - doesn't want sex unless stop cosleeping with DC

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dhnosex · 06/11/2024 22:53

DC is just under 3. Cosleeps with us for about half a year now.
I love the cosleeping - it leads to more sleep for me and in all honesty I love waking up to the tiny sleepy face or the little hugs I get in the middle of the night, DH not so much - he occasionally gets woken up by DC turning over in the night and DH believes a bed should just be for parents.
We have a large and comfortable sofa (for sex or to sleep in) and a spare bedroom (which, in fairness is full of clutter and used as a storage room but has a bed).
DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.
DC sleeps through the night when we cosleep but wakes up every couple of hours if we sleep apart. Inevitably I'm the one that has to resettle DC if they wake up because DH absolutely can't (DC will not go back to sleep, just gets more agitated). If we were to end cosleeping I'd just end up marching back and forth between our room and DC's all night, or camping in DC's room.
So... who is being unreasonable? Him for wanting DC out of our bed and threatening no sex until I do or me for not wanting to kick DC out? What solutions do I have? I do want sex, in theory could easily live without it but it's not great for a marriage to be sexless.

OP posts:
TheWonderhorse · 06/11/2024 23:55

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/11/2024 23:47

He wants to sleep in his own bed.
He wants to be intimate with his wife in his own bed.
He wants to be able to sleep and not be disturbed by a wriggling child.
He doesn't want to have sex on the sofa or in the cluttered spare room, he wants to have sex in his own, comfortable bed.

All valid reasons. Reasons why plenty of people don't and wouldn't co-sleep.

What about other people's wants? Why is this particular issue one where his wants trump everyone else's?

For ops dh there's no solution where he has to do anything, which is convenient. She has to meet the child's needs differently and deal with the fallout on her own, so that she can then meet his needs. That's not intimacy, or closeness, or teamwork.

Marblesbackagain · 06/11/2024 23:53

Wonderlust233 · 06/11/2024 23:43

I never said it was... What's your point?

I made my point then you advised oh they do it in xyz when we are not in xyz.

Wonderlust233 · 06/11/2024 23:53

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/11/2024 23:47

He wants to sleep in his own bed.
He wants to be intimate with his wife in his own bed.
He wants to be able to sleep and not be disturbed by a wriggling child.
He doesn't want to have sex on the sofa or in the cluttered spare room, he wants to have sex in his own, comfortable bed.

All valid reasons. Reasons why plenty of people don't and wouldn't co-sleep.

She wants to sleep with her toddler.
She wants to be able to get rest at night and not have to be woken from a toddler.
She wants to have sex in the spare room or on the sofa instead of in the bedroom.

All valid reasons. Reasons why plenty of people co-sleep.

Maybe we should get the toddlers opinions added too.

OrangeGreens · 06/11/2024 23:52

The responses to this are meaningless as so many people mistakenly think you are having sex in the bed with the child. So when they say YABU a lot of them could be talking about that.

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:51

Wonderlust233 · 06/11/2024 23:38

You probably had this experience because you breastfed til your child was 2yo. I think many mums don't experience the natural night time bond in toddlerhood that breastfeeding reinforces. People find it weird that a 2yo sleeps with their mother but they definitely wouldn't if they experienced breastfeeding til 2 and beyond.

Probably! I also breastfed my elder two until they were each a year old and I regret not doing it longer because both of them would have! I stopped breastfeeding DD1 at a year because I hoped to get pregnant again - I'd never heard of tandem feeding! (DD is 27!) and I thought I'd be less likely to conceive if I continued. I stopped breastfeeding DD2 at a year because I had an asthma flare-up and my GP prescribed steroids and said, "don't you think you've breastfed long enough?"!!! Well my asthma flared again when DS was a similar age, and by then I knew more, and I said, "no!" so we kept on going until he wanted to stop at 22 months.

Snuggling up all night with my babies is one of the best memories I have.

Nanny0gg · 06/11/2024 23:51

Why hasn't the 'spare' room been turned into the child's room?

Then they may want to sleep in it

FupaTrooper · 06/11/2024 23:48

YABU to still co sleep at 3.
YABU not to consider your husband's feelings and prioritise sleep training.

PP's are BU for not reading the bloody OP. It clearly says OP suggests OTHER locations for sex, not in the bed.

TunipTheVegimal24 · 06/11/2024 23:48

It sounds like the wanting to have sex in his own bed, is really just him saying that he wants to stop co-sleeping, because otherwise he'd probably do it other places as you suggested. The withholding of sex sounds a bit sulky imo.

I don't think there's anything wrong per se with co-sleeping with a 3yo at all, but I can see why your husband wants him out, as most children are in their own beds by 3, so it's the cultural norm (in the UK at least).

My partner has slept in the other room for years, as two small children close in age, so uncomfortable pregnancy turned into co-sleeping, followed by another pregnancy where I was ENORMOUS and wanted to be left alone, then a 2nd batch of co-sleeping with the youngest. We also never, ever have sex, and also get on less and less and are more and more irritable with each other! There's may well be a correlation, just something to consider 😕

DemocracyR · 06/11/2024 23:48

dhnosex · 06/11/2024 23:16

No, we just don't have sex

DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.

Sounds like you suggested it.

YABU and being selfish to the detriment of your child and your husband.

EllieQ · 06/11/2024 23:48

You say in your first post that you have only been co-sleeping for the past six months @dhnosex - what was happening before that? Was your DS in his own room, and why did things change? Was it something temporary that DH expected to stop soon and now feels you’ve changed the goalposts?

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 23:48

he still gets sex - where's the problem?

She said they don’t have sex.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/11/2024 23:47

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:44

Only saying that it's perfectly possible to accommodate the co-sleeping and the sex!

I don't get why the OP's DH has an issue with it?? His DC is content, his DW gets to sleep and he still gets sex - where's the problem?

He wants to sleep in his own bed.
He wants to be intimate with his wife in his own bed.
He wants to be able to sleep and not be disturbed by a wriggling child.
He doesn't want to have sex on the sofa or in the cluttered spare room, he wants to have sex in his own, comfortable bed.

All valid reasons. Reasons why plenty of people don't and wouldn't co-sleep.

Gemmawemma9 · 06/11/2024 23:47

Franjipanl8r · 06/11/2024 23:28

By “spontaneous” sex do you mean in bed in the evening? I couldn’t think of anything less spontaneous!

Yes that’s exactly what I mean. Going the bed, chatting, laughing, cuddling and kissing, the build up. Not “would you like to have sex tonight?” “Yes, you get the kid settled, meet you on the couch at 9pm”. Seems really transactional.
the build up and the cuddling afterwards are all part of the fun.

SleeplessInWherever · 06/11/2024 23:46

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:44

Only saying that it's perfectly possible to accommodate the co-sleeping and the sex!

I don't get why the OP's DH has an issue with it?? His DC is content, his DW gets to sleep and he still gets sex - where's the problem?

He may just want to sleep next to his wife, by himself, that could be “all” it is.

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:44

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/11/2024 23:42

I imagine that you both were and still are happy with the setup though. That's the issue, it only works if both parents are happy with it.

Not the case with OP and her DH.

Only saying that it's perfectly possible to accommodate the co-sleeping and the sex!

I don't get why the OP's DH has an issue with it?? His DC is content, his DW gets to sleep and he still gets sex - where's the problem?

NiftyKoala · 06/11/2024 23:44

MidnightPatrol · 06/11/2024 22:55

IMO your child needs to be taught to sleep in their own bed.

That you have sex while your child is in your bed is really inappropriate IMO.

WTF and YABU.

Edited

Agreed. This is not ok.

Wonderlust233 · 06/11/2024 23:43

Marblesbackagain · 06/11/2024 23:38

It is not the norm here in the western world where the op is.

I never said it was... What's your point?

Gingerbee · 06/11/2024 23:43

AutumnLeaves24 · 06/11/2024 23:16

What does starting school have to do with it? And in 10 months, that's a world away anyway.

@dhnosex there's nothing wrong with co sleeping. Nothing at all.

lots of countries around the word bed share and they don't only have one child

Your DH isn't trying to find solutions that work for all of you, only him. I'd just say 'that's fine, let's spend the weekend cleaning out the spare room & making it nice for you'.

Him withholding sex until you do as he says... he can fuck right off.

No wonder some men feel pushed out once children arrive.

Why can't she co sleep in the spare room?

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:43

Barryplopper · 06/11/2024 23:25

Op has nowhere said she wants to or has had sex with dc in the bed, strange that that's what a lot of posters have jumped to. Op, I really think you need to consider getting dc into their own bed. I know you think you'll be back and forth between bedrooms to settle them, but that's always short lived whilst dc adjusts. You just need to bite the bullet, dc can always come in for cuddle when they wake up in the morning. Your relationship is important too x

Nope, you don't need to bite the bullet and imo, it was best to leave settling in their own room until they were ready, because there never was any back and forth, certainly with all of my three, they just moved and that was it! They did still for years come into bed for a snuggle on a Saturday and Sunday morning. I don't know when or how that stopped. I miss it, and they're all grown up!

NewName24 · 06/11/2024 23:42

YABVU.
Shame you didn't do a poll, save you counting through the thread.

I feel for dh here.

Startrekkeruniverse · 06/11/2024 23:42

YABU.

I think it’s this part of the OP posters are zooming in on: “”DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed””

That statement makes it sound like OP has suggested it while the child is in the bed which would be completely inappropriate.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/11/2024 23:42

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:39

It doesn't matter. I only moved my DS to his own room because he was due to start school and I didn't want him saying that he slept with his mum. And he moved into his room and never looked back! I still haven't reinstated DH because we'd both kill each other for snoring! Doesn't mean we can't still have sex!

I imagine that you both were and still are happy with the setup though. That's the issue, it only works if both parents are happy with it.

Not the case with OP and her DH.

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NeverFastAlwaysFurious · 06/11/2024 23:41

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/11/2024 23:36

Jesus H Christ, wtf is wrong with some of you?!!! Eldest co-slept until just over a year and a half. DH and I managed to have sex by throwing a rug/duvet over the side of the cot so we could hear any awakening! When I was pregnant with DC2, his snoring drove me over the edge and I also suffered from tendinitis from 17 weeks so he was despatched to the spare room whence he remains 26 years later lol!

DC1 was only moved out to accommodate DC2 who slept by my side until 4 years old. As I said when I told a horrified relative, DH and I did manage to escape sometimes... sex in the living room, sex in the kitchen, sex in the shower, sex in the spare room... We even managed to conceive 3 more times after DC2, shock horror. Sadly we lost the first two of those pregnancies but went on to have DC3, who co-slept with me until coming 5, having breastfed until 22 months.

And all three of them moved out to their own rooms when we were ready, and never looked back!

You are absolutely right to take the path of least resistence in terms of how you get the most sleep! That was my ethos too. And DH never had to get up to feed babies in the night because I breastfed so I was bloody well owed that sleep!!

Stick to your guns and tell your DH to get more creative. Our next door neighbours used to have a camper van in their drive and we used to hear it it rocking and moaning rofl!!

Separate beds is where it's at! This is exactly what we did and do.

Veryoldandtired · 06/11/2024 23:41

Urgh… what’s wrong with people? It’s ok to sleep with your children (as long as no one is doing anything they should just be doing in private). When it stops working you can teach your children to sleep in their own beds, which requires 100% determination from you OP and may take months. My DS sleeps separately from 3.5 years old. He was happy and secure to leave our bed to go sleep on his own when it was time. We all loved morning snuggles. Sex can happen anywhere else in the house (even on the kitchen counter! Shock/horror!) depending on where the desire strikes. I personally go to bed to sleep so if my head hit the pillow - that’s it! lol