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Or is my husband - doesn't want sex unless stop cosleeping with DC

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dhnosex · 06/11/2024 22:53

DC is just under 3. Cosleeps with us for about half a year now.
I love the cosleeping - it leads to more sleep for me and in all honesty I love waking up to the tiny sleepy face or the little hugs I get in the middle of the night, DH not so much - he occasionally gets woken up by DC turning over in the night and DH believes a bed should just be for parents.
We have a large and comfortable sofa (for sex or to sleep in) and a spare bedroom (which, in fairness is full of clutter and used as a storage room but has a bed).
DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.
DC sleeps through the night when we cosleep but wakes up every couple of hours if we sleep apart. Inevitably I'm the one that has to resettle DC if they wake up because DH absolutely can't (DC will not go back to sleep, just gets more agitated). If we were to end cosleeping I'd just end up marching back and forth between our room and DC's all night, or camping in DC's room.
So... who is being unreasonable? Him for wanting DC out of our bed and threatening no sex until I do or me for not wanting to kick DC out? What solutions do I have? I do want sex, in theory could easily live without it but it's not great for a marriage to be sexless.

OP posts:
TheWonderhorse · 07/11/2024 15:36

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2024 15:25

It sounds manipulative to me.

I think it’s six of one and a half dozen of the other.

So you think they're both being unreasonable?

OrangeGreens · 07/11/2024 15:29

I am perhaps taking some of the responses to this thread a bit personally as I have a disabled DC and cosleeping with them is pretty much the only peaceful, close time we get together. Most of our waking time together is challenging so our bond would suffer immensely if I couldn’t do it for some reason. Yes I value that special time together more than I value having sex in my own bed, when there are plenty of other places to do that.

People are being very judgemental about others’ decisions here when there is simply no need. One size does not fit all and people have different priorities.

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2024 15:25

It sounds manipulative to me.

I think it’s six of one and a half dozen of the other.

Choosenandenough · 07/11/2024 15:25

dhnosex · 07/11/2024 12:51

This is exactly the point of the thread. He wants sex but only in our bed in our bedroom. Only at night (when the child is asleep).
But since we can't do it at night in that bed, because the child is asleep in that bed, we don't have sex.

OP you must be ready to pull your hair out by now! I have never seen so many questions that have already been answered over and over again in my life! This is just life the way it is for you right now, I’m pretty sure he could manage to have sex in another room ffs! If you’re planning on weaning off the go-sleeping at some point then have that discussion about a plan.

TheWonderhorse · 07/11/2024 15:24

ShiteRider · 07/11/2024 13:29

What a strange interpretation. Is it withholding sex till someone complies or is it not wanting to have sex under the conditions that it is currently ‘available’?

For example, if my husband said from now on we’re only having sex in the conservatory and I find that a massive turn off so chose not to, am I withholding sex or am I just making an adult choice about my own preferences and boundaries?

But he's providing one circumstance where he's prepared to have sex, and that just happens to conflict with a parenting decision they ought to be making together and both taking responsibility for. It sounds manipulative to me.

NewGreenDuck · 07/11/2024 15:15

Ottersmith · 07/11/2024 15:01

So you need a cuddle and comfort, but a toddler doesn't?

My kids got lots of cuddles and comfort. In their own bed if needed. And at other times of day. I sleep trained them ( I suspect that makes me the spawn of the devil! ) so we all got a good night's sleep.

Lucy377 · 07/11/2024 15:09

He is being unreasonable. No reason you can't run into the other room, especially if it has a duvet/is made up.
Re the co sleeping, I'd start with a mattress on the floor of the toddler's room and someone sleeps in there.

At least, the toddler should start their night off in their own bed and if they come in to you, that's fine.
But they shouldn't be put to bed in your bed. Because then they think 'this is my bed'.

Motherofdragons20 · 07/11/2024 15:05

Ok putting aside the sec question because quite frankly it’s irrelevant. Your DH clearly isnt happy with your son in his bed, it’s disturbing his sleep and yes disturbing his sex life, he’s entitled to feel this way. You are tired and don’t want to be running back and forth to a bad sleeping toddler, and you enjoy collapsing, you’re entitled to feel this way. There is a very simple solution to this that keeps everyone happy.

the set up in our house is as follows. DS has a small double in his own room. At bed time him and I cuddle until he’s asleep, I then leave him with a monitor on him, spend the evening with DH, lie in “our” bed and watch tv and yes occasionally have sex, read books etc. When it’s time for lights out and go to sleep and not a moment earlier I leave “our” room and go sleep with DS. I get to co sleep and me and DH still have our time in our bedroom in the evening. Everyone’s happy and everyone’s sleeping.

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 07/11/2024 15:02

tillylula · 07/11/2024 12:51

As someone who also Co sleeps, my opinion is that he is unreasonable.
Humans are the only mammal that doesn't sleep with their babies next to them anymore (and that's been quite recent in history). You have many many years to have sex with your husband, and you're right it doesn't have to be in a bed every time (how boring!, though it is nice to do it on your bed when it's free and you haven't been able to because of cosleeping). But you don't have all those years of snuggling little one at night. I say make the most of it and treat yourself to a nice little lingerie set and see if you can get him to the sofa. 😆

Humans are also the o ly mammal that requires privacy for sex.
You think a Daddy Monkey Cares if other monkeys see him shaggin mummy Monkey?

Also other mammals are very quick to sort out inconvenient offspring with effective and permanent results.

It's always easy to pick and choose which parts to highlight.

Ottersmith · 07/11/2024 15:01

NewGreenDuck · 07/11/2024 13:48

Because all children need learn how to get off to sleep by themselves. It's as simple as that.
Having sex with a partner involves more than just a quick shag, hopefully there is also an emotional connection and for many that doesn't involve getting straight out of bed as though it's meaningless or as though the other party can't wait to get away. It's having a cuddle as well.
I can get off to sleep by myself, just as well as I'm widowed. I'd still like a cuddle and some time together after sex if DH was still here.

So you need a cuddle and comfort, but a toddler doesn't?

Anisty · 07/11/2024 15:00

Boltonb · 07/11/2024 14:14

People criticising the fact that OP is prioritising her 2 year old over her adult husband. It’s so bizarre. Why would BOTH parents not prioritise the comfort and happiness of a small child over an adult?

Our 2 year old is both of our priorities. All the time. With enough emotional/physical input to also have plenty of love and consideration for eachother as parents and lovers.

I don’t understand not prioritising a small child and meeting their needs first and foremost.

No issue if both parents are in full agreement. If the DH here were happy, this couple would be making time and space for sex all over their house!

The issue here is that DH is NOT happy. So he is refusing to have sex. That is a pretty strong signal as to how unhappy he is.

OP needs to have a long conversation with her husband. He probably never wanted this and feels 3 years is long enough.

This is a relationship issue rather than a sex issue. Once this couple come together and listen to each other, the sex issue will fix itself.

Ottersmith · 07/11/2024 15:00

Astrabees · 07/11/2024 13:30

@OrangeGreens Because it discourages independence, self settling and the child developing ways to entertain itself if it is awake and others are not. As the OP has indicated it rules out the normal comfortable marital sex that most couples have in their own beds. If the child has a perfectly comfortable bed of its own after age 2, or a cot before this, it should be encouraged to sleep in it.

'it'? Why do you need your husband in your comfortable marital bed? Did you not learn to self settle? Maybe your parents should have sleep trained you harder.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 14:56

Tbf, Bolton became quite heated towards me 😁

OrangeGreens · 07/11/2024 14:55

But we can agree that we have different opinions, and we do what we believe is best for our own children

Well exactly. Beggars belief this thread has got so heated.

OrangeGreens · 07/11/2024 14:54

Vinni8 · 07/11/2024 14:50

Yes I'm confused too. My eldest is a similar age to OP's and most of my mum friends are still cosleeping - very normal imo.

Many posters acting like the OP is strange perhaps don’t currently have small children. So they don’t realise how widespread co-sleeping is now.

Boltonb · 07/11/2024 14:52

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 14:42

We disagree, that’s all. Who knows which of us is right, if either? Can only repeat, I am not ignorant, thank you.

Well you’re being purposefully obtuse. I didn’t say you were ignorant. I said making sweeping statements about what’s “normal” is ignorant.

But we can agree that we have different opinions, and we do what we believe is best for our own children.

Vinni8 · 07/11/2024 14:50

doodleschnoodle · 07/11/2024 14:24

I find it odd how many people think a 3yo cosleeping is weird or even unusual? In our Primary 1 WhatsApp group, there are still quite a few of our kids who come into our bed at some point in the night! It's pretty normal from what I can tell, having talked to many, many mums of little kids at loads of baby and toddler groups over the past five years.

DD2 is 2 now and plenty of her peers are still room and bed sharing. She's never been interested in cosleeping, but DD1 has always been keen on it. She is a happy, confident little girl, happily will be left at clubs, activities, she's often the one leading her friends into place when they are nervous. But she likes to get into bed with me in the night. I said to her she should try to sleep in her own bed all night once and she asked me why and I honestly couldn't think of a good answer! 'Because that's just what people do' suddenly didn't really sound like a good reason 🤷‍♀️

I totally understand why people don't want to cosleep, but don't make it sound like some weird or perverse thing when IME it's totally normal. People get so weirdly incensed about it on here, like it's a moral failing for a child not to sleep 7-7 in their own bed.

Yes I'm confused too. My eldest is a similar age to OP's and most of my mum friends are still cosleeping - very normal imo.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 14:42

We disagree, that’s all. Who knows which of us is right, if either? Can only repeat, I am not ignorant, thank you.

NiceParkingSpotRitaThanksJanet · 07/11/2024 14:42

Strawberrysaucee · 07/11/2024 12:51

The attitude to co sleeping on here is actually quite sad.

Grown man wants cuddles after sex so must retain master bed = totally okay and normal.

Young child seeks comfort at night when they awaken and get scared = fuck em. They must learn.

I must be mental because that to me is weird.

It's mostly in the western world we have this attitude to sleep.

And the argument they will never leave is uttter bullshit - I used to sneak into my mum and brothers rooms when I was younger - I am certainly not doing that now and we all happily live in our own homes.

Exactly this. Absolutely bizarre reading. I also hate the insinuation that OP has somehow failed by not 'training' her very young child to sleep alone, so her husband can be serviced in the location of his choosing, presumably whilst she goes back and forth to settle said child and then get up for work in the morning.

Why is it that women are told to balance being a mother and 'being a wife' read: give enough sex/attention to the man. Where are these men who are also parents to the child? It shouldn't be child vs husband and mum attending to everyone's needs. It should be both parents working together and supporting one another in order to, dare I say, prioritise small children during this season of your lives.

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2024 14:41

Boltonb · 07/11/2024 14:37

It’s ignorant to make sweeping statements.

Like you have on this thread?

Boltonb · 07/11/2024 14:37

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 14:30

Boltonb

Our 4 year old grandson happilly sleeps in his cabin bed, has for a long time. His mum and dad aren’t old fashioned 🤷‍♀️

I’m not ignorant, thank you.

It’s ignorant to make sweeping statements.

Boltonb · 07/11/2024 14:35

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/11/2024 14:25

@Boltonb - I would argue that prioritising the needs of the child ALL the time could well lead to exhaustion and burn out from the parents and will put a lot of unnecessary strain on the marriage.

There is a saying - “You can’t pour from an empty jug” that I think is relevant here - parents are people too, with needs, and if they are never met, because the children are 100% of the priority, 100% of the time, surely the parents will run out of energy (emotional and mental, as well as physical), to carry on caring for their children.

It is a case of balance - and there is nothing wrong with parents finding time to nurture themselves and their relationships.

I agree to a point, but if you notice I said we always prioritise our small child whilst still having plenty of time to nurture eachother as parents and lovers. We have a wonderful relationship with eachother, and a wonderful relationship with our little boy.

We cosleep, but he goes to bed hours before us. We get lots of time as a couple. But when we have a 2 year old present, of course he’s the priority. Life and parenting is a constant balance.

OP’s partner is not attempting to find any balance by being so adamant that their child needs to be in another room, and OP needs to suck up the extra work by disturbing their toddlers sleep, just so that he can get enough sex when and where he wants it. Yuck.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2024 14:30

Boltonb

Our 4 year old grandson happilly sleeps in his cabin bed, has for a long time. His mum and dad aren’t old fashioned 🤷‍♀️

I’m not ignorant, thank you.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/11/2024 14:25

@Boltonb - I would argue that prioritising the needs of the child ALL the time could well lead to exhaustion and burn out from the parents and will put a lot of unnecessary strain on the marriage.

There is a saying - “You can’t pour from an empty jug” that I think is relevant here - parents are people too, with needs, and if they are never met, because the children are 100% of the priority, 100% of the time, surely the parents will run out of energy (emotional and mental, as well as physical), to carry on caring for their children.

It is a case of balance - and there is nothing wrong with parents finding time to nurture themselves and their relationships.

doodleschnoodle · 07/11/2024 14:24

I find it odd how many people think a 3yo cosleeping is weird or even unusual? In our Primary 1 WhatsApp group, there are still quite a few of our kids who come into our bed at some point in the night! It's pretty normal from what I can tell, having talked to many, many mums of little kids at loads of baby and toddler groups over the past five years.

DD2 is 2 now and plenty of her peers are still room and bed sharing. She's never been interested in cosleeping, but DD1 has always been keen on it. She is a happy, confident little girl, happily will be left at clubs, activities, she's often the one leading her friends into place when they are nervous. But she likes to get into bed with me in the night. I said to her she should try to sleep in her own bed all night once and she asked me why and I honestly couldn't think of a good answer! 'Because that's just what people do' suddenly didn't really sound like a good reason 🤷‍♀️

I totally understand why people don't want to cosleep, but don't make it sound like some weird or perverse thing when IME it's totally normal. People get so weirdly incensed about it on here, like it's a moral failing for a child not to sleep 7-7 in their own bed.