AIBU to ask for help to understand the American Election resul

@Tophelleborine

I think you expressed it very well. A lot of people where I live (Idaho) feel that the condescending attitudes of those in more liberal areas and the media just cements them in their desire to back Trump, seeing they are looked down upon and considered hateful and uneducated by 'the establishment'.

I think it's interesting people in the UK are so widely stunned. In the area I live, people have been expecting Trump to win, but I suppose it's all dependent on what you consume.

I'm about as far from a trump supporter as you could get, but I feel like this post and the whole tone of it proves the point perfectly, without meaning to. You've had loads of posters explaining dispassionately and articulately why people have voted for him, and instead of engaging with them, you've sneerily dismissed them without even seeming to have bothered to read their points properly. It's exactly like Brexit. As a lifelong leftie, I despair of this lazy, smug superiority.

Forgive me for the Daily Mail link, but there is no paywall of app to download

this video clip is a reasonable summary

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14048643/CNN-panel-stunned-Republican-pundit-Scott-Jennings-Trump-election.html

I'm a British living in the US. I think Trump is an awful person, but I think the policies that Harris endorses are worse than his policies. I'm also pro life so that's a huge issue that Trump is better on IMO.

Also, people are in the US are tired of being called racist and told we should feel guilty by dint of their skin colour, and Trump pushed back against that.

Everything is so polarized here, it's really awful. It may as well be 2 countries at this point. There is no dialogue to be had, each side hates the other so much.

I think Trump personally is not a good person, but I think he will be better for the country with his policies. Look at the stock markets this morning. He will be better with Israel, better on the border. Ukraine remains to be seen.

Kamala Harris is unlikeable and there is a widespread perception that she slept/finagled her way to the top and didn't earn her success.

I live in a very Republican area, full disclosure. I did not vote (not a citizen).

The economy was far and away the most important thing and people blamed the most recent administration for it (as was probably the case in 2020). Never mind that there was a pandemic and the expensive effects of climate change. People don't think in a very joined-up way when their wallets are hurting badly. I get it, sort of, but if they think they are likely to be better off under Trump et al, it's going to be a rude awakening. If I were a betting person I'd put a lot of money on the Dems for 2028.

Trump supporters on this thread are failing miserably to justify their choice.

He was president before????

Y'all need a serious education boost. She was not much of a contender but your guy is an ill educated ignorant dangerous tumour on earth. A mushroom would gave been preferable.

delivers his lines well

🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪

This bar is so low

Because they think he will do a better job than Kamala Harris. It's that simple. And he has been President so has the experience.

he is charismatic

Oh wow, is that what passes as charisma these days??!!

From Appalonia's Post on Page one:

they want the bad guys punished and the good guys appreciated

Trump is a bad guy.

He is being rewarded, that horrified me and the rest of non-america.

What don’t you understand? God knows I can’t stand Trump, but he knew how to appeal to the majority of ordinary Americans, many of whom are struggling with the cost of living, same as many on this side of the pond.

Crimes by Americans are ‘baked in’ but every woman killed by an illegal immigrant last year (Laken Riley, Joycelyn Nungaray, Ruby Garcia, Rachel Morin) was a death that, by definition, should never have happened.

Thanks to the previous posters, I think I get it now

Us government has three branches:

Judicial - republican, 6 of 9 supreme court judges

Executive - trump

legislative - congress which has two parts
Senate - republican
House of representatives - still being decided

So it seems like republicans control all three branches of government allowing them to pass bills quickly

A great election for the republicans

🤭🤭 sorry for being slow xx

Yes same reason he got in in 2016, far right sentiment sweeping the west. We'd still have had Tories in if they hadnt turned on Bojo then Truss fked it up.

So in simple terms, Trump appeals to anyone who is anti woke?

You cannot control your citizens. You can only punish them for the crimes they have committed as they occur.

You can control the crimes of illegal migrants by not allowing them to cross the border in the first place.

Fraime Ubaldo And his whole family were murdered in New York by an illegal migrant. This could have been prevented. A 12 year old girl was murdered in Houston by two illegal Venezuelan’s. Tell me when to stop.

Don't think this helped either...
https://twitter.com/therestofus5/status/1854234747280777585?s=19

I was trying to be really simplistic. It is more complicated than what I have written. This was the cliff notes version.

And many more horrific crimes committed by "Americans".
But that's ok isn't it?

The US populace has voted for Trump because ...

• he is charismatic and delivers his lines well
• more of them than anyone wants to admit support the republican party's fundamentalist values
• just like in the UK, people are scared of taxes and the republican party is anti-tax, anti-funding

I don't think that's quite right. In the UK the upper chamber is the House of Lords, which isn't elected, and the lower chamber is the House of Commons. Councils only set policy for their local area so they are equivalent to the state legislature in the US, or the local townships. They elect everyone over there, down to the town ratcatcher and the local judges.

Although confusingly each state also has an elected upper and lower house as well. State representatives. Plus they send reps to Washington (not the same ones as honest in the state legislatures).

They also have Governors and loads of other locally elected appointments.

Because people hate trans people more than they care about women bleeding out from miscarriages and dying on hospital floors while being denied care.

Or any of the other excuses they make, I don't care, they do not respect women.

I posted this on the other thread. From Twitter:

"I know a lot of people who voted for Trump. Let me tell you their reasons.

They wanted a return to normalcy. Gender ideology is just too out there. They want to protect women and children.

The economy has been disastrous for them. They didn’t have a cushion to absorb the inflation. They are cutting out everything in their lives just to afford food. And some are cutting that out. Their lives have gotten very small. When they tried to tell you, they were told they shouldn’t splurge on things like a frozen pizza.

They see people coming illegally into this country and being handed stuff. Their stuff. Their money is being handed over. They have nothing. They watch as others are just handed more than they have.

They can’t afford rent and don’t know what to do. More people fighting for the same housing units makes prices rise.

They see a frightening turn towards censorship. They value the first amendment. Remember, it’s very important.

They are so tired of being lied to and called terrible names. Every time the mainstream media made up a story to make people hysterical they rolled their eyes. This pushed more and more people away. They stopped having any faith in the media. A firing squad? Really? 🙄

They feel the hysteria is toxic and frightening. Again they want this all to calm down.

They watch as political protests are punished for only one side.

They see crime running rampant.

They see the people who try to protect us from crime being punished. The criminals go free to re-offend.

Essentially, they want their children to be healthy, they want their family to be fed, they don’t want endless war, they want things to be fair, they want the bad guys punished and the good guys appreciated, they want to protect women and children.

I hope if you are frightened today you will hear me. I hope I can help you see that things are not dire. I hope I can help you see that these were regular everyday folks who want regular everyday things. Food, clothing, shelter, privacy, respect for boundaries.

That’s it. Just those things.

Peace. "