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GrandHighPoohbah · 17/11/2024 20:21

cardibach · 17/11/2024 20:20

Of what?

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GrandHighPoohbah · 17/11/2024 20:20

Can't help thinking of this given some of the attitudes on this thread.

cardibach · 17/11/2024 20:20

GrandHighPoohbah · 17/11/2024 20:18

Can't help thinking of this, given some of the comments on this thread

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Of what?

cardibach · 17/11/2024 20:19

I suggest, broadly, you are the one who has swallowed everything you’ve been fed.
Plus you seem to still be referring to covid vaccination (as the claim it’s not been properly trialled and reviewed, though false, seems to stick there). I’m talking about all the others too. And fluoridation. And whatever other nonsense the man believes. There’s plenty of evidence over decades for all of that. Why are you discounting it?

GrandHighPoohbah · 17/11/2024 20:18

Can't help thinking of this, given some of the comments on this thread

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Farting · 17/11/2024 20:15

cardibach · 17/11/2024 20:06

No, @Farting , I haven’t ’swallowed everything I’ve been told’, my ego isn’t hurt and I know I haven’t been had. Because all the research and, you know, actual facts, shows that vaccines are 8ncredibly effective and fluoride in the water is beneficial. Or are you suggesting all the scientists, for ever and everywhere, have lied?
Yes, Trump has what he wants. I think Americans who voted for him will regret it. And categorising people expressing concern for Americans (and Ukrainians, and the rest of Europe, and those in the Middle East) as ‘bitching’ reveals a lot about you (and taken in context with the rape apologist stance, more than I want to know)

what “actual facts”, delivered by whom? And with what agenda?

what clinical trial? what peer group reviews? and whose pay and influence were those in the peer group doing the reviewing under?

you really don’t want those questions asked do you?

you’re not alone

I suggest, that broadly, you have swallowed everything you’ve been fed.

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cardibach · 17/11/2024 20:06

No, @Farting , I haven’t ’swallowed everything I’ve been told’, my ego isn’t hurt and I know I haven’t been had. Because all the research and, you know, actual facts, shows that vaccines are 8ncredibly effective and fluoride in the water is beneficial. Or are you suggesting all the scientists, for ever and everywhere, have lied?
Yes, Trump has what he wants. I think Americans who voted for him will regret it. And categorising people expressing concern for Americans (and Ukrainians, and the rest of Europe, and those in the Middle East) as ‘bitching’ reveals a lot about you (and taken in context with the rape apologist stance, more than I want to know)

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Farting · 17/11/2024 20:01

cardibach · 17/11/2024 19:52

Well, no. They aren’tt bad. But it’s not just covid vaccinations in this case, is it. It’s all of them. And fluoride on the water. And a load of other stuff.
Also do you really believe rich people become unselfish because they have plenty of money?

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Well perhaps, just perhaps the medical industry has got too big for its boots and is shipping us a load of stuff we don’t need and shouldn’t be taking.

The trouble you’ve got is you’ve swallowed everything you’ve been told all your life and it’s hurting your ego to think you’ve been had. And you probably have been had.

Others of us had our eyes open.

Trump has enough to do what he wants. I believe he loves America, which incidentally I think 75 odd million Americans think as well so you’re gonna have to suck it up. He’s in and he’s gonna do what he’s gonna do and no amount of bitching on mumsnet is going to change it.

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cardibach · 17/11/2024 19:52

Farting · 17/11/2024 19:42

So to cite your specific example, it could be, and is very likely to be that when the results of the large scale clinical trial for the jabs is analysed it was in fact in hindsight very very bad for a large proportion of the population, and in that event those people may need other treatment or care.

So it may well be, a very very good idea that someone critical and capable of individual thought is assigned to the role.

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Well, no. They aren’tt bad. But it’s not just covid vaccinations in this case, is it. It’s all of them. And fluoride on the water. And a load of other stuff.
Also do you really believe rich people become unselfish because they have plenty of money?

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Farting · 17/11/2024 19:42

cardibach · 17/11/2024 19:33

He’s not looking after them. He’s looking after him.
In what way is appointing an anti vaxer to be in charge of health looking after the population, for example?

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So to cite your specific example, it could be, and is very likely to be that when the results of the large scale clinical trial for the jabs is analysed it was in fact in hindsight very very bad for a large proportion of the population, and in that event those people may need other treatment or care.

So it may well be, a very very good idea that someone critical and capable of individual thought is assigned to the role.

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Farting · 17/11/2024 19:38

cardibach · 17/11/2024 19:33

He’s not looking after them. He’s looking after him.
In what way is appointing an anti vaxer to be in charge of health looking after the population, for example?

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he doesn’t need looking after. He’s got plenty of money. More than he could ever spend.

people who didn’t believe in the covid jabs aren’t anti vax. That’s a generalisation intended to badge anyone critical of the jab as anti vax and shit down debate.

im not anti vax, ive had all the legitimate vaccines, but I didn’t take the jab because the truth is you couldn’t get dog food to the market as fast as they rolled out that jab and I didn’t trust it.

i get it a lot of people have been totally suckered, probably you. But there are other opinions and points of view and you don’t have the monopoly on those, and you don’t get to impose those on me or anyone else capable of thinking for themselves.

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cardibach · 17/11/2024 19:33

Farting · 17/11/2024 19:30

Thats irrelevant to the US population. He’s looking out for them, not us.

And that ^^ by the way is the whole point of electing people to represent you. They’re supposed to represent you, not everyone else.

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He’s not looking after them. He’s looking after him.
In what way is appointing an anti vaxer to be in charge of health looking after the population, for example?

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Farting · 17/11/2024 19:31

Deja321 · 17/11/2024 18:45

Yes because I think they're bogus charges. The democrats abused their power and weaponised the justice system against Trump. It backfired on them massively.

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Exactly- everyone saw what was going on.

The MSM has lost its monopoly on the narrative and they were unable to deceive the people any longer.

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Farting · 17/11/2024 19:30

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:48

Doesn't Trump want to come out of NATO and if he does where does that leave the rest of us?

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Thats irrelevant to the US population. He’s looking out for them, not us.

And that ^^ by the way is the whole point of electing people to represent you. They’re supposed to represent you, not everyone else.

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Farting · 17/11/2024 19:28

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:42

He's a grandfather and was a father what's wrong with you. I know many old people to behave like that. All I saw was a sweet old.man who needs to retire and spend the rest of his days with his family.

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You need to grow up and clear your eyes out and see what’s going on.

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ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:48

Deja321 · 17/11/2024 18:45

Yes because I think they're bogus charges. The democrats abused their power and weaponised the justice system against Trump. It backfired on them massively.

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Doesn't Trump want to come out of NATO and if he does where does that leave the rest of us?

RingoJuice · 17/11/2024 18:46

GotToLeave · 17/11/2024 18:29

It’s fairly obvious though that policy in the U.K. over the last 14 years has caused a massive gaping hole between the rich and poor. And it’s often fairly obvious how to lessen that gap. So I will vote to increase equality and tackle climate change.

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If by that you mean equally poor, yes, I think that’s gonna happen to the UK.

Can’t tax your way to wealth. And as China creates more carbon emissions than you generate in two weeks … nothing you do as a country will be very meaningful at all. Just making yourselves poorer, in the end

Deja321 · 17/11/2024 18:45

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:43

You rather someone with 34 charges against them?

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Yes because I think they're bogus charges. The democrats abused their power and weaponised the justice system against Trump. It backfired on them massively.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:44

@Deja321 I do accept the people wasn't happy and they did do it to themselves.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:43

Deja321 · 17/11/2024 18:40

They will if they find a better candidate. Kamala had been vice for the last 4 years and majority of people were not happy with her administration.

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You rather someone with 34 charges against them?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/11/2024 18:42

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:37

A woman will never be elected by the people that's my point.

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And yet the narrative at the time was that Michelle Obama would have certainly smashed it if she'd run

Of course we'll never know now, but personally I thought she'd have stood a half decent chance against such a man

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:42

Farting · 17/11/2024 18:24

Here you go.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PLSPvJ9BY&pp=2AEAkAIB

He's a grandfather and was a father what's wrong with you. I know many old people to behave like that. All I saw was a sweet old.man who needs to retire and spend the rest of his days with his family.

Deja321 · 17/11/2024 18:40

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:37

A woman will never be elected by the people that's my point.

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They will if they find a better candidate. Kamala had been vice for the last 4 years and majority of people were not happy with her administration.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 17/11/2024 18:37

Farting · 17/11/2024 18:25

I mean a man that’s elected by the people.
Kamala ran, but they didn’t want her.

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A woman will never be elected by the people that's my point.

GotToLeave · 17/11/2024 18:29

RingoJuice · 13/11/2024 04:28

My point is that you do not actually know what they need or what will fix their problems.

I hear a lot of American liberals complain about the poor and how ‘they vote against their own interests!’ But it’s a bit of a leap to think you know what would be in their best interests.

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It’s fairly obvious though that policy in the U.K. over the last 14 years has caused a massive gaping hole between the rich and poor. And it’s often fairly obvious how to lessen that gap. So I will vote to increase equality and tackle climate change.