To just be loving The Donald Win!

There are LOTS of incels and mras and common or garden misogynists crawling over this site. Mumsnet seems to want to keep them around. Mustn't harm engagement. 🤷🏼‍♀️

https://x.com/MaryRoss815/status/1854350523589177719

The Democrats seem to be headed to another election defeat in 4 years as they are so closed off and refuse to even think.

They only grew in the demographic of university educated women, they have few children and in the UK (I don't know USA stats) 1 in 3 women abort their babies, so this group will get smaller and smaller.

The university educated women will be outnumbered by Latinos and white people in general voting Republican who aren't in a death cult, they aren't bothered about aborting, aren't sterilising their children and aren't going to demand others get involved in killing them via sedated suffocating and potentionally make a million pounds harvesting their organs.

I am not into abortion so my information its limited, I dread to research what is made from selling stem cells etc of aborted babies after learning about human organ harvesting and the money made by pharma/surgery on autistic and troubled people who had their puberty blocked.

Yes. He is also probably a virgin on his computer.

The fact you think he is desirable when he makes most women clench up says it all. Obviously you being a man wouldn't get that.

What I am is a guy who has experienced the kind of locker room talk Trump has been accused of, along with all the previously consensual encounters turning into money grabs due to him running for and / or becoming president.

And this bothers me greatly.
it is acceptable for a women to reflect of sexual encounters and realise that they were not entirely consensual, that they made you uncomfortable and the they were wrong in some way.

Londonpapa has just now said that he is male.

Obviously he has a male user name, but I never assume gender until someone says what they are.

He has also previously written on this thread that

" women seek Donald Trump out so that they can be grabbed by the pussy. "

He has promoted sexual assault constantly on this thread, and he sounds dangerous.

We should start reporting his posts

@LondonPapa given the exceptionally low conviction rate of rape and sexual assault, not to mention the amount that are simply not reported I'm not sure we can simply rely on criminal convictions to assess whether someone is a danger to women.

In Trump's case we can use his actual words. What you are dismissing as 'locker room banter' is actually a very clear example of a man who has no respect for women and thinks it is acceptable to boast about non-consensual sexual contact.

If you are a man who thinks this behaviour is acceptable and actually engages in such 'locker room banter' then it might be time to reflect on whether that is an appropriate way to behave.

He has just said that he's a man.

That's important to know when we are talking to this poster.

Good grief! That kind of talk, in any setting, is never ever justifiable. What kind of people do you hang around with, who have you been socialised by that you truly believe that talking like this is ever acceptable?

I’m not a Trump supporter. I find his re-election fascinating and can’t wait to see the impact - both good and bad. But I’m not a supporter.

What I am is a guy who has experienced the kind of locker room talk Trump has been accused of, along with all the previously consensual encounters turning into money grabs due to him running for and / or becoming president.

Like it or not, he was a high desirable prize for women to land. Still is. So I don’t buy into the he’s a creep stuff as much as others. Especially as he hasn’t been found criminally liable for any of it. Seems suspect that part, yes?

Yes, as many many people on here have told you, you are wrong.

Every poster that has talked to you about this on here, has told you that joking about sexual assault is wrong.

But like many trump supporters, you will only see "what a great man Trump is". People like you are brainwashed and it's very hard to get through to them

Have you heard of the Jonestown cult in the USA?

I was watching a documentary on that. People who escaped were talking in the documentary

Everyone joined the church at the start and they were all saying "oh Jim jones is great. He's amazing. He's such a leader".

Then he started bearing and torturing adults.
One person in the documentary said "I thought this was wrong but it was hard to see clearly , as everyone around me was saying that it's great".
Then Jim jones started beating and torturing the children.

A woman in the documentary said that when it was her own child that was beaten, she finally had the strength to leave.

Pther survivors said that Jim jones raped them. Men and women.

Jim jones was an abuser.

These men are always like this.

Trump is the same. He will keep sexually abusing people and people will still follow him like sheep.

Until one day trump will do something so bad that I think people will finally turn against him

Joking about sexual assault is not 'harmless banter'!!

Honestly, I can't believe people still try to use the 'but it's just banter' excuse.

Oh. I guess my experience is invalid. Oh wait. No it isn’t. Just because you’ve not heard it yourself, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. But I understand it’s just harmless banter.

A lot of people I was chatting to today said that they feel really sad that we are stuck with Trump for another four years.

And more than that, they're sad that the USA has not evolved in any way in 8 years.

That they voted in a buffoon again

As you keep whining 'what about the children', what are your views on the Second Amendment and school shootings?

Are you in favour of gun control or do you think that civilians should be able to buy military weapons such as AR15s? Are you in favour of background checks?

A lot of anti-abortion zealots absolutely love their guns and just offer 'thoughts and prayers' platitudes when once again children are murdered at school.

What is your position?

Would it make it right if the women were saying grab him by the penis? As I’ve heard a lot of stuff that goes on in the ladies locker room and I’d argue it’s worse. So to summarise, locker room talk is justifiable.

No it doesn't make it right.
Why is locker room talk justifiable?

I wouldn't say we are lefties.

I'd say we are anti criminals and anti rapists.

Jimmy Kinmel just said it very well today,
He said that:

"We had the option to vote for a prosecutor or for a criminal. And we chose the criminal".

He said that he is devastated.

I play sports . I'm a woman. I'm I'm locker rooms.

I've never heard one woman say "I can do an anything to men. I just grab them by the penis".

Ever

Mumsnet is very leftie isn't it! I'm glad too OP. 😌
Don't believe the propaganda. Maybe now child trafficking can stop.

Would it make it right if the women were saying grab him by the penis? As I’ve heard a lot of stuff that goes on in the ladies locker room and I’d argue it’s worse. So to summarise, locker room talk is justifiable.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14050809/George-Clooney-joe-biden-quit-donald-trump-election-president.html

I am laughing at Hulk Hogan and George Clooney 🤣 who takes any notice of celebs? They may be a form of pleasant entertainment, you aren't going to take any political notice of them reading their scripts after being paid out (were UK Labour also?) of that million dollar campaign fund with a $200,000 debt left for Harris. That's some mighty spending in about 3 months.

You can enjoy Taylor Swifts art and merch yet dismiss her political affiliation. It must sting the ego somewhat for someone like her that she has a limited reach.

And white women and Latino men are being scapegoated also, as if their only concern was woman/race/abortion not economy/safefuarding.

Uh huh. It’s as if you’ve not spent time outside your echo chamber. Locker rooms are full of the stuff.

Doesn't make it right though.
We shouldn't be brushing things like this off as 'banter' 'jokes' or 'locker room talk' as if that justifies it.

The source is linked in the article and you are sounding obtuce as a result in my opinion.

You seem to be in favour of abilest behaviour, abort the disabled, sterilise the autistic and kill those who have slight health issues like diabetes.

It sounds like you and Harris had your death cult rejected by the American public. 52% of white women aren't fussed if abortion is banned, they don't want to sterilise and mutilate autistic children or kill the sick like Canadians with MAID.

It was said that I made up via AI the paralympian along with human organs are harvested in Canada and there are other sources.

Labour didn't have assistance suicide on their manifesto btw.

When people like Lammy throw around insults like nazi sympathiser and psychopath. I think it's valid to call them on it. Silly presenters on sofas, however, I wouldn't give any headspace to. Although their bosses should.

Uh huh. It’s as if you’ve not spent time outside your echo chamber. Locker rooms are full of the stuff.

Also, I’ve no misunderstanding. I just question why people come out of the woodwork when there is a payday to be made? Stormy Daniels as the prime example of consensual to payout sought to keep quiet.