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stephen8 · 06/11/2024 11:32

My step children 7 , 8 and 10 (wife's daughters) have lived with me full time now for 2 years 7 months, in this time their biological dad has seen them once and mum has seen them around 15 times.

Neither one of them have paid towards the children or bought them anything in this time, I have fully provided for them. Yesterday evening, I received this email from my wife.

Dear stephen.

Hi.

I am letting you know that I have recently rented a house in x area and will shortly be moving into it. I will be coming to collect the girls on Tuesday the 12th novemeber.

I think it's best you step back and don't have contact with them. They will need time to adjust and settle in, and contact with you will confuse them and make them unsettled.

Please can you make sure the girls' things are all packed up and ready for the 12th.

Thank you.

I am devastated, these girls are my daughters, I've been in their life for 6 years and for the last two and a half years I've brought them up myself, they call me dad I'm the only parent they really know. I've not spoke to the girls about this yet but they will absolutely not be wanting to go and stay with their mum, infact they don't even want to see her, she's let them down too many times now and the trust is gone.
Has anyone been through this before? Do I have a leg to stand on? I'm assuming I have no choice but to hand the kids over on the 12th? She has financially ruined me with her gambling addiction, I don't think I can afford a lawyer, I'm aware I'm not biologically their dad but I'm the only dad they know, it would destroy them to be taken from me.

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Boredonafridaynight · 22/09/2025 15:26

I know this is an old post but it popped into my head recently. Would love to know the outcome OP

Aphrodite2020 · 06/01/2025 09:24

stephen8 · 06/11/2024 17:59

I'm going to leave this here now, I think, very grateful for all the people who have given helpful advice and been supportive. But honestly, absolutely disgusted at the supposed mothers on here who can be so vile to a victim of abuse who has already been through so much, determined to find a way to make the women be the victim even though she's the abuser who my kids are terrified of. Yes I may not have contacted social services, but I was worn down by the abuse and trying to keep my head above wager financially and support my kids, she kept leaving and returning I had no idea when she would next he back. The social worker was in no way angry when she came around and actually complimented me on how well I've held things down and said that the girls are a delight, she certainly didn't have any worries about mt ability to care for them. I will to to court tomorrow with my head held high and fight for my girls and no matter what the outcome I will never stop being there for them, my door will always and forever be open for my daughters.

My heart is breaking for you reading your post and all those hateful comments! I admire what you have done, and the strength it has taken you. How did it go in court? Did you get to keep the girls? I hope from the bottom of my heart that you did. Stay strong and be there for the girls like you have always been.

SoMuchBadAdvice · 25/12/2024 14:02

Here is hoping that OP & the children just had a lovely Xmas dinner together.

BaronessBomburst · 28/11/2024 12:01

@SoMuchBadAdvice I reported it to MNHQ at the time, so they're aware.
Pretty sure there's no link between the two.

SoMuchBadAdvice · 28/11/2024 11:24

Is there any connection between the 2 websites? BoredPanda have just copied the entire IP with no attempt to link back or claim fair use. It's either outrageous breach of copyright, or the 2 websites have some agreement.

Gwenhwyfar · 19/11/2024 21:51

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Withdrawn at OP's request.

He's the only dad those children have. The only responsible parent even and lots of stepchildren choose to call their step-parents mum or dad - their choice.

Itsbritneybitch22 · 19/11/2024 21:32

Did she show up?

SiRReN · 19/11/2024 21:19

stephen8 · 06/11/2024 17:59

I'm going to leave this here now, I think, very grateful for all the people who have given helpful advice and been supportive. But honestly, absolutely disgusted at the supposed mothers on here who can be so vile to a victim of abuse who has already been through so much, determined to find a way to make the women be the victim even though she's the abuser who my kids are terrified of. Yes I may not have contacted social services, but I was worn down by the abuse and trying to keep my head above wager financially and support my kids, she kept leaving and returning I had no idea when she would next he back. The social worker was in no way angry when she came around and actually complimented me on how well I've held things down and said that the girls are a delight, she certainly didn't have any worries about mt ability to care for them. I will to to court tomorrow with my head held high and fight for my girls and no matter what the outcome I will never stop being there for them, my door will always and forever be open for my daughters.

I would love you to post an update on this, I'm desperate to know that everything worked out and you have the girls in your continued care. You sound like an absolutely wonderful father who was dealt a bad hand in partner but have gotten through for the sake of your girls.

Needanewname42 · 17/11/2024 19:03

@GrandmaHere2019
Very good of you to write that post. But unfortunately the Ops position just isn't that clear.
He appears to have zero evidence that he has looked after these children alone for 2 and half years.
They aren't in an official school, SW don't know, he hasn't claimed benefits.

Unless he actually has some sort of evidence the mum could easily say he threw her out and wouldn't let him access the kids.

GrandmaHere2019 · 17/11/2024 09:51

Hi Stephen,

I joined this group just to comment on this thread. You have a chance to get these children but it won’t be easy.

  1. I don’t recommend getting ss involved. They are unpredictable.
  2. Work with your lawyer to get emergency guardianship. 99.9% of judges will give this to you because you already have them. The other thing in your favor is it’s the middle of the school year.
  3. once that’s established you can start to build your case. You will have from now until the start of the school year to present a very strong case.
  4. get the kids in with a counselor. Tell the court you put them in counseling to help with the transition to mom. This will help you because it will show the court you are working with them and will show your commitment to the children. It also helps build your case that the children are bonded to you.
  5. Do not prevent mom from seeing her children once the emergency guardianship is established. This will be hard because the kids won’t want to go. You have to encourage them. I know it will be hard but you’re not the biological father. If you have any chance you HAVE to show the court you aren’t trying to alienate the children from mom.
  6. Keep a log. Document every phone call. Every missed or late visit. Everything! Document anything she misses out at regarding Dr. visits, activities, etc. If mom is as unhinged as you say she will definitely mess up.
I’m guessing the courts will order a psychiatric evaluation and at minimum some parent classes and make her prove she is ready to be a mom again. I am praying during this time you can at minimum show the court you have established a bond and get joint custody and hopefully residential, im going through this now with my daughter and granddaughter. We are scheduled for trial in January. I wish you the best of luck.
Needanewname42 · 09/11/2024 19:43

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 16:30

An acknowledgement that he is trying to do his best for the children would be nice. Instead of the usual MN man hating shite.

Is it really man hating to think he should have made SW aware these kids had been abandoned and he had no legal responsibility or rights to them?

Instead of putting everything above board to protect both him and the kids he tried to keep flying under the radar. Why?

Who knows what his motivation was for that decision, mistrust of SS, ignorance, has something to hide?

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2024 19:03

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 16:30

An acknowledgement that he is trying to do his best for the children would be nice. Instead of the usual MN man hating shite.

Asking for assertions that go against years of professional experience to be clarified is not man hating.

People can't agree with what they know not to be true.

Fluufer · 09/11/2024 18:26

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 16:30

An acknowledgement that he is trying to do his best for the children would be nice. Instead of the usual MN man hating shite.

Speaking only for myself, I cannot acknowledge something I do not believe to be true.
No adult in these kids lives (assuming they are real) has really done their best.

PaterPower · 09/11/2024 16:34

My uncle was put in a somewhat similar position (barring the gambling debts). His wife had two DC by a previous partner and then they had a child together.

She fucked off with her karate instructor (yep, about as cliched as a man shagging his secretary), leaving my uncle with all three kids. She had nothing to do with them again until they were adults.

Amazingly (and in my opinion a slap in the face for my uncle, who raised them from 6 and 4 yo) they actually allowed her back into their lives. I’ve no idea whether he sought PR for them, but he did his best to bring them up whilst having to work FT and she didn’t pay him a penny in maintenance.

My exW’s uncle also raised his two (natural) DC after his wife / their mother fucked off and left him with them. Again, no maintenance and she didn’t make any attempts to see them growing up. I don’t think it’s anywhere near as uncommon as some on MN would like to believe.

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 16:30

Needanewname42 · 09/11/2024 09:11

People asking questions have nothing to be ashamed off.
What do you want People to say, "you've done a grand job and all will be fine", when there's nothing to make you think that will be the case?

An acknowledgement that he is trying to do his best for the children would be nice. Instead of the usual MN man hating shite.

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2024 16:02

sterli2323 · 09/11/2024 15:55

He said quite a few pages ago that he was leaving the thread.

Yes when he was asked by posters who work in the various fields to clarify a lot of discrepancies.

No explanation has been forthcoming so draw your own conclusion.

sterli2323 · 09/11/2024 15:55

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2024 15:46

Funnily enough they haven't returned.

Odd.

He said quite a few pages ago that he was leaving the thread.

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2024 15:46

jeaux90 · 09/11/2024 09:14

OP how did it go?

Funnily enough they haven't returned.

Odd.

jeaux90 · 09/11/2024 09:14

OP how did it go?

Needanewname42 · 09/11/2024 09:11

People asking questions have nothing to be ashamed off.
What do you want People to say, "you've done a grand job and all will be fine", when there's nothing to make you think that will be the case?

Caerulea · 09/11/2024 00:40

Holy fuck! A good many of you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves! What repellent behaviour towards a man who appears to be doing something rather extraordinary & (assuming all true) should have been supported & lauded.

Not whatever the hell shitshow went on in here.

Where was the kindness? The understanding?

One of the most disgusting threads I've seen on here.

Needanewname42 · 09/11/2024 00:11

kittensinthekitchen · 08/11/2024 23:39

Yup that's my thinking @Needanewname42 and hoping someone can clarify the legal process in place to prevent "my word against yours", because if not, that's quite a scary concept wrt the risk of children being essentially legally kidnapped by a step-parent.

He hasn't claimed any money for the kids either.
Where has the mum been actually living? Where has she been legally living, ie has she ever moved her address, with doctor, HMRC, DVLA etc?

Willyoujustbequiet · 08/11/2024 23:47

kittensinthekitchen · 08/11/2024 23:39

Yup that's my thinking @Needanewname42 and hoping someone can clarify the legal process in place to prevent "my word against yours", because if not, that's quite a scary concept wrt the risk of children being essentially legally kidnapped by a step-parent.

Seeing as SS are now supposedly involved the court would very likely appoint what's called a guardian ad litem - someone who acts for the child independently of either side. Reports would be prepared and recommendations made. None of which would happen in less than 24 hours.

kittensinthekitchen · 08/11/2024 23:39

Yup that's my thinking @Needanewname42 and hoping someone can clarify the legal process in place to prevent "my word against yours", because if not, that's quite a scary concept wrt the risk of children being essentially legally kidnapped by a step-parent.

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