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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

OP posts:
flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 10:04

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:55

She has. She went out there to not come back and to live there permanently via sponsorship.

hold up

her skills are so in need that she has been sponsored by an oz country

oh man… op you are so clearly green with envy

TerryKirby · 06/11/2024 10:03

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:27

A close friend of mine

this is your version of a close friendship? the two of you don’t seem to even like one another

Close doesnt mean you have to agree with their decisions.

I have close friends who are totally opposite to me and do things I never would - and I tell them. And vice versa.

The fact OP has posted for advice shows she wants to help but also is fed up. Totally understandable

Lostsadandconfused · 06/11/2024 10:01

Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:32

A large number of people I know have moved over to Australia without ever preciously visiting it (in fact my OH's first time on a plane was to fly to Australia for a year!), they all went out on working holiday visas and got their visas extended after a year, the vast majority were home sick for the first 2 months (totally natural as moving to a brand new continent, country, other side of the world is a BIG fucking move!!!!), and a fair few of my female friends that went got their hair done before they went because Australia is notorious for expensive hairdressers....... OP you do not sound like she is your friend at all! A horrible, judgey post, you clearly think you are better than her, just cut the friendship off now. Ask yourself genuinely why are you trying to maintain a relationship with a person you clearly have little respect for!

Edited

We do have hairdressers here and I can tell you none of them charge 1000 bucks for a colour job.

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 10:00

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

OK, but then she's basically on an extended working holiday -- it's far from unusual for people who do that to not have been to Australia before, because they're not emigrating, they're just having a longer than usual trip. It's no big deal, and there are no repercussions for her being unhappy and returning home, other than it having involved blowing her inheritance.

Lostsadandconfused · 06/11/2024 09:59

If she only went recently, what on earth has she spent the equivalent of AUD 60K on??

DyslexicPoster · 06/11/2024 09:59

I have a friend who makes choices I wouldn't that end badly. That's just her way as it's a series of the same mistakes. I offer advice if asked for but don't expect her to follow it. Thing is my friend doesn't pick holes in my choices in return. Sometimes I just go along as that is what she wants to hear.

So in your shoes I'd advise her to try longer but ultimately if she refuses to listen you either agree with her if you love her or you distance yourself. It's her life to fuck up however sad it is to watch.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 06/11/2024 09:56

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

She job hops constantly and works in admin but her company would go through the trouble of sponsoring her?

Katiesaidthat · 06/11/2024 09:55

SilkyWoo · 06/11/2024 09:27

Working holiday visa. Totally normal.

Interesting, but that isn´t emigrating!

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:55

JC03745 · 06/11/2024 09:51

Which part of Aus is she in? Its as big as Europe, so the cost in 1 city can be vastly different to another, and yes, its more expensive that people realise!

OP- you made it sound like she has emigrated permanently, not that she is on a working holiday visa! If you don't like her, then don't have contact!

She has. She went out there to not come back and to live there permanently via sponsorship.

OP posts:
Letsgodancing · 06/11/2024 09:54

I think the Australian dream is not what it once was, I've seen many videos online of people excited to go there, than once they get there it's expensive, a big housing crisis (some say even worse than UK) and not as easier as it once as to pick up jobs. I'm sure many people do go out there and it's the best decision for them but most countries right now have similar issues to the UK especially in housing.
It can be hard to say it wasn't for me but your friend will figure it out, her parents will get her back to UK. There's many expat groups out there on social media which I'm sure advises on the hard stuff so advise her in that direction.
Or maybe it will take her time and australia will be the place for her long term or the learning curve she needs

bitsalty · 06/11/2024 09:52

It actually sounds like she's very much impacted by her ADHD. She's struggling because everything feels harder for her due to her condition.

I agree with others that you don't like her and sound incredibly judgmental so maybe just end the friendship.

JC03745 · 06/11/2024 09:51

Which part of Aus is she in? Its as big as Europe, so the cost in 1 city can be vastly different to another, and yes, its more expensive that people realise!

OP- you made it sound like she has emigrated permanently, not that she is on a working holiday visa! If you don't like her, then don't have contact!

295bkq · 06/11/2024 09:50

You don’t like her - there’s nothing you can do to help anyway. Why are you still in contact with her?

Purplewarrior · 06/11/2024 09:50

So why did you write that she’s emigrated to Australia? She’s just working there for a year with a fixed return date.

You sound incredibly jealous of her.

Iamnotalemming · 06/11/2024 09:48

She needs to work it out for herself. You might think you're being supportive but we all have a tendency to give advice on the basis of what we would do, which isn't the same as what she could or would want to do. Take a step back.

Amyknows · 06/11/2024 09:47

Tell her to ask mum and dad to bail her out?

You can't advise people like her. She makes stupid decisions without any thought, and you can't change her thought process. She's done something huge like immigrating but not nearly as mature enough, so you really can't help her in any way.

Fireworknight · 06/11/2024 09:46

StudioFocusTricky · 06/11/2024 08:49

Yabu to be obsessing about this person's life to the extent of making a mumsnet post about it. Don't you have enough worries of your own? Live your own life.

Don't get sucked into giving her more help or advice than you can easily spare if she starts asking. She's not your responsibility.

Yes, I agree. She’s not your responsibility, but for some reason she seems to need you to support her. Maybe time to cut the apron strings.

Is she wanting ‘permission’ to come home , or wanting you to sort out her mess? How I see it, she has three options.

  1. Do nothing and just tick along as she is
  2. Make changes in Australia to improve things, eg change jobs, etc (but only she can do that)
  3. Leave , ie return to UK

However, these are her problems to solve, not yours.

OhshutupSimonyounobhead · 06/11/2024 09:45

But you don't seem to like her so why are you friends as pp have asked?

Caroparo52 · 06/11/2024 09:44

Just be vague and make positive noises. You've tried to give advice. Its been ignored. This patrern will repeat itself indefinitely. Do yourself a favour and step back emotionally.

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

OP posts:
Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:41

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 09:39

Sure but then the OP is massively overblowing the situation -- her 'friend' whom she doesn't like is essentially taking an extended working holiday. If she's unhappy she can cut it short. And she can't have spent her £30k inheritance on the move, as the OP claims, as she won't have moved many belongings.

The move includes the cost of living over there until you get a job, paying for accommodation, paying to set up bank accounts, phone bills, paying to organise appropriate transport depending on where you move to! It's not just about getting a few bits sent over.

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 09:39

SilkyWoo · 06/11/2024 09:27

Working holiday visa. Totally normal.

Sure but then the OP is massively overblowing the situation -- her 'friend' whom she doesn't like is essentially taking an extended working holiday. If she's unhappy she can cut it short. And she can't have spent her £30k inheritance on the move, as the OP claims, as she won't have moved many belongings.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 06/11/2024 09:33

Why are you friends with someone who makes snide comments about you?

Someone who made two comments like that to me would never get a chance to make a third, because I'd be done with them.

Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:32

A large number of people I know have moved over to Australia without ever preciously visiting it (in fact my OH's first time on a plane was to fly to Australia for a year!), they all went out on working holiday visas and got their visas extended after a year, the vast majority were home sick for the first 2 months (totally natural as moving to a brand new continent, country, other side of the world is a BIG fucking move!!!!), and a fair few of my female friends that went got their hair done before they went because Australia is notorious for expensive hairdressers....... OP you do not sound like she is your friend at all! A horrible, judgey post, you clearly think you are better than her, just cut the friendship off now. Ask yourself genuinely why are you trying to maintain a relationship with a person you clearly have little respect for!

AnneLovesGilbert · 06/11/2024 09:29

You clearly despise her and she doesn’t need friends like you.

My sister went to Australia for a few months after leaving her job, her housemate moving out and a break up. She’s still there many years later with an incredible life she could never have had here. She’s married an amazing man, lives in the most stunning place, has a qualification and a job she couldn’t have here, two brilliant children. It’s more than she could have dreamt of when her life was crap and she took a punt on moving away for a bit.

Focus on making your own life as you’d like it so you have less time to think about a woman you can’t stand.