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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

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Corknut · 06/11/2024 11:07

It sounds like she really does have ADHD and is struggling. I wonder why you feel you can’t support her with what’s happening? I hear she’s made some bad choices but we all so. You mention she has said some horrible things - why are you still close friends with her? It seems like you aren’t really compatible? Maybe something to think on before you reply to her just now.

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/11/2024 10:58

TheShellBeach · 06/11/2024 09:18

Actually, you wrote:

OP is a troll

No, that's not quite what I wrote - and I also went on to say something along the lines of if it is genuine, then.... and I proceeded to give a load of information. If I had said it was definitely a troll then a) I wouldn't be complaining and b) I wouldn't have bothered writing it all out.

I get that no one should be piling onto an OP aggressively, but not to be able to even mention the possibility in passing - when that exact wording has been used on other threads without an issue - is more than a bit daft.

I've seen whole threads recently where the OP has been repeatedly called out for trolling and quite literally.....nothing. And then the over-zealousness of this thread. It's just inconsistent, that's all.

As I said in my comment which you clearly read, I'm neurodivergent myself and it's really difficult when there aren't consistent rules.

andfinallyhereweare · 06/11/2024 10:57

It’s been a month! She’ll find her feet. Just be supportive or cut back from her..

FoxRedPuppy · 06/11/2024 10:54

You post is very ableist. A lot of what you describe as character flaws are symptoms/part of her adhd. It can be pretty debilitating. It is a disability and causes impulsive behaviour, over-spending, executive function problems, and fixating on things (such as emigrating). You don't sound like a great friend.

rosesaredeadvioletsaretoo · 06/11/2024 10:53

It sounds like you don’t like her and you’re jealous she’s moving to Australia. She will have an amazing time and you won’t have to see her anymore. Win win.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 06/11/2024 10:46

OssieShowman · 06/11/2024 10:15

Cost of living crisis here, Housing rental crisis, jobs hard to come by.
No surprises that she is not happy here.

In UK or Aus?

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 06/11/2024 10:43

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:10

Wow. You cannot seriously think parents telling a 25yo to spend 12 whole months trying to make a go of life is abusive.

Telling your son or daughter if they get into trouble they'll be on your own is very shitty at least.

notprincehamlet · 06/11/2024 10:42

You need to audit your list of things to get het up about. Things that are 10,000 miles away should be outside anyone's worry zone. You're careering towards frustration burnout.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 06/11/2024 10:37

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:32

Your parents sound abusive

I'm not sure I agree with 'abusive' - @Catza says I actually do think that moving away to the entirely new continent without any support network will do her some good. It helped me massively to work through similar issues in my 20s. I had to make a life for myself, my parents categorically told me I will not be welcomed home until I gave it at least a year which sounds like she was acting the same way as OP's friend until her parents laid down the law and refused to enable her lifestyle any more. With that support withdrawn, she went on to make a good life for herself which she wouldn't have done if they kept bailing her out.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 10:36

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:10

Wow. You cannot seriously think parents telling a 25yo to spend 12 whole months trying to make a go of life is abusive.

yeah, because that’s what the parents said 🙄

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 06/11/2024 10:35

Gardendiary · 06/11/2024 10:18

Don’t underestimate the impact that being neurodivergent can have on navigating every day life. You sound quite smug about how sorted you are whilst entirely glossing over this point.

I agree with this. It's easy to judge her but ADHD is literally largely about difficulty making decisions, follow through, impulsivity and emotional dysregulation.

Delphiniumandlupins · 06/11/2024 10:35

Sounds like you and your friends are a bit opinionated when giving each other advice. It would be more useful to suggest she reflects on why she wants to do something or why she thinks a situation hasn't gone well. She may still make bad decisions but she won't be able to blame anyone else.

ItGhoul · 06/11/2024 10:26

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:23

you don’t like her
she doesn’t like you
you now live on the other side of the world

quit navel gazing about her 🤷

This sums it up.

Aimtodobetter · 06/11/2024 10:20

Be sympathetic but emotionally distance yourself / accept that she is not someone really looking for advice. The only person who can turn her life around is her and its not like the answers aren't obvious - work hard and you can build something for yourself, mess around expecting your dream life to fall into your lap and the world doesn't owe you anything. She must know that - she just chooses not to engage with it so don't waste your energy trying to get her to.

Gardendiary · 06/11/2024 10:18

Don’t underestimate the impact that being neurodivergent can have on navigating every day life. You sound quite smug about how sorted you are whilst entirely glossing over this point.

Apolloneuro · 06/11/2024 10:16

You’ve written nothing positive about her, which makes me wonder why you consider yourselves friends?

If she does have ADHD, it massively causes issues you describe and I take personal offence at you calling it an excuse.

I think I’d spend time looking in the mirror at yourself, rather than others.

sonjadog · 06/11/2024 10:15

You tell her that she has only been there a month, homesickness is natural, and to go out and give it a real chance. Give it 6 months, for example, and then she can see how she feels then.

People live their lives in different ways, not everyone has to do what you think is best. Your friend does not have to take your advice, she is her own person. Your post reads like you think less of her for not taking the choices you would have made.

OssieShowman · 06/11/2024 10:15

Cost of living crisis here, Housing rental crisis, jobs hard to come by.
No surprises that she is not happy here.

Tittat50 · 06/11/2024 10:12

OP, I wouldn't want a friend like you who came on MN over this. It's really harsh. This really doesn't read as a friend who is concerned.

If you're finding behaviours too much then definitely distance yourself and availability.

Alot of the behaviours you don't approve of will be very much informed by her ADHD.

I agree it's best you just focus on your own life now. It sounds like she's having enough struggles as it is.

When she says things you don't like, as a friend, just tell her that it feels like a dig. See how she reacts if you really do want a friendship.

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:11

You just say ‘keep trying and something will work out.’

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:10

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:32

Your parents sound abusive

Wow. You cannot seriously think parents telling a 25yo to spend 12 whole months trying to make a go of life is abusive.

Citrusandginger · 06/11/2024 10:09

It sounds like the consequences of living with an impulsive decision aren't working out. Which isn't the biggest surprise. The issue is for her though OP and not you. Your decision is whether you wish to continue the friendship.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 06/11/2024 10:07

If you don't like who she is then you are under no obligation to be friends with her. Just wish her well and cut her loose.

Plum02 · 06/11/2024 10:07

It’s only been a month. There are always struggles moving abroad but it’s generally worth it.

My sister moved to Australia 12 years ago planning to just stay for 1 or 2 years and has never looked back. She’s built an amazing life there with a beautiful house in an idealistic suburb a short walk to the most stunning beach, a short train ride into the city and she’s built a great career and it’s a wonderful place for her DS to grow up. A month into moving she was working in an estate agents having taken a massive step back in her career and renting a 2 bed flat.

I’ve lived abroad twice for a couple of years each time, always planned to be short-term for work reasons. There were times I felt isolated and found it incredibly tough but they’re also the best experiences of my life and I have no regrets.

Good on her for taking the risk. It’s totally normal to have a wobble and doubt whether you’ve done the right thing one month in but she’ll get past that and it will be worth it!

Having said that, you don’t sound like you wish the best for her and I do wonder why you’re friends!

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 10:05

TerryKirby · 06/11/2024 10:03

Close doesnt mean you have to agree with their decisions.

I have close friends who are totally opposite to me and do things I never would - and I tell them. And vice versa.

The fact OP has posted for advice shows she wants to help but also is fed up. Totally understandable

read the op

the dislike the op has for this person drips off the page