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To cancel plans to visit USA.

388 replies

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

OP posts:
Ihopeyouhavent · 06/11/2024 10:02

Wow, what dramatic responses!

Poffy · 06/11/2024 10:00

I would never have visited anyway because of guns.
This result just reminds me that we might speak (almost) the same language but Americans are very different from Brits.

anotherside · 06/11/2024 09:56

Country elects scummy politician shocker! He’s no worse than Boris Johnson was, in fact I kind of prefer him.

Brefugee · 06/11/2024 09:52

Do you people normally look deeply into the leaders of every country they visit or their abortion laws? I certainly don't.

I don't visit countries where i think i may have a problem. I'm not likely to be pregnant so the US doesn't feature in that (nor does Poland etc)

I tend not to visit countries where women are treated differently in law. Afghanistan isn't on my list of go-to destinations, nor any of the countries that enforce hijab or other restrictions on women just because of biology.

But if you want to go to Qatar, Dubai, Saudi etc, have at it. I will judge you though (silently)

Wheresthebeach · 06/11/2024 09:52

Only reasonable if you don't visit any country with a leader/laws you don't like. Which these days...well...would be a bit limiting.

Bonnyrowantree · 06/11/2024 09:51

Hilarious..why?

Deja321 · 06/11/2024 09:46

This is so silly and shows the power the media have over people. Do you people normally look deeply into the leaders of every country they visit or their abortion laws? I certainly don't. There's alot of unnecessary scare mongering when it comes to trump.

ExtraOnions · 06/11/2024 09:45

Millions of Americans are happy to support a sex offender, and give them almost limitless power … I think that says all we need to know about the safety of women in that country

101Nutella · 06/11/2024 09:45

YANBU- I’d be worried about a bit of unrest initially which is a bit more serious there given they have the right to bear arms.

and following on from that, it’s whether certain sectors of society will be emboldened to violence or whether they’ll be happy coz they have the leader wanted.

also why give money and support a country with just poor rights for women. So many other countries to visit instead.

a bit put off at the moment. I’d give it a year to see how the dust settles and think again. But obvs I wouldn’t go if I was TTC incase I got in to complications and was denied treatment.

you look at risk of unrest and health provisions with any country you visit for your own safety and unfortunately America is having a race to the bottom so proceed with caution.

RichPetunia · 06/11/2024 09:43

Rather extreme reaction by the OP. I've just returned from the Bavaria region of Germany and can highly recommend. Perhaps she'd want to try there instead?

Getonwitit · 06/11/2024 09:42

FFS, talk about over reacting.

Fullfatandfortyplus · 06/11/2024 09:40

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

Doesn’t seem divided to me. Seems like they are all pretty united.

MzHz · 06/11/2024 09:40

MinnieMountain · 06/11/2024 07:49

I’d possibly avoid the US for the next few days, but otherwise go.

Work trip tomorrow <bites nails>

Fisharenotfoods · 06/11/2024 09:39

I did just google Disneyland in Tokyo as I wanted to visit anyway but might be a better option than Orlando

Isobel201 · 06/11/2024 09:39

God some of these posts are ridiculous. You're all panicking over nothing.

lostoldname · 06/11/2024 09:38

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

You may have a definition of a woman but if that woman wants an abortion or medical care for a miscarriage they are out of luck

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 09:36

Laalaalaand · 06/11/2024 09:34

I guess this is what happens when you let rampant transphobia take over your brain. You stop caring about women.

Accurate definition of a woman and safeguarding concerns are transphobia ?

user1471516498 · 06/11/2024 09:36

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 09:09

Nothing has changed. Donald trump does not make the abortion laws. Each state decides for themselves.

Donald Trump stuffed the supreme court with conservative judges who overturned Roe v Wade. So he is indirectly responsible.

Hotpinkangel19 · 06/11/2024 09:36

Crazy! Definitely not cancelling trips because of this!

Deja321 · 06/11/2024 09:35

Itsagreatdaytosavelives · 06/11/2024 07:48

we were making plans for next October. but was always dependent on a Harris win. genuinely can't comprehend how anyone votes for a rapist

Probably because they don't believe he is a rapist. There have been many outrageous/unproven accusations thrown at trump, the establishment have tried literally everything to take him down. So not everyone believes every accusation thrown at him and see it as a smear campaign.

cardibach · 06/11/2024 09:35

If I had one booked I wouldn't cancel it. However I wouldn't be booking one now. I didn't visit last time he was in either (and I've been more than once, it's not just because I wouldn't have gone anyway).

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 09:34

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:30

I had an all nighter so bear with me. If people were travelling to the US from 2022 the laws on abortion are the same then and now. The fact he won wouldn’t affect what was already decided by the supreme court.

I get you. But l wasn’t aware that the poster was asking from the point of view of Trump winning the election. I was answering from the point of view that some states in America are definitely not places to visit voluntarily if you’re pregnant.

Laalaalaand · 06/11/2024 09:34

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

I guess this is what happens when you let rampant transphobia take over your brain. You stop caring about women.

Ghosttofu99 · 06/11/2024 09:31

It will definitely be less stable there now. I don’t know if anyone watched Storyville: War Game (available on iplayer) but people on all sides of the political spectrum have been preparing for scenarios worse and more well planned than what happened during the Capital riots.

Katiesaidthat · 06/11/2024 09:30

ForGreyKoala · 06/11/2024 08:53

I'm sure the country will be plunged into financial ruin Hmm
Honestly, what ridiculous over reactions on here. Some of you need to grow up.

You are spectacularly missing the point. I don´t travel to certain countries as I don´t like their religion, and don´t spend money in regimes that impose the death penalty. Those are my red lines. Whether those countries will care, will be in financial ruin or not, is irrelevant.