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To cancel plans to visit USA.

388 replies

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

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Oxforddictionary12 · 06/11/2024 10:45

Your feelings are valid OP. You might be okay as a tourist but god forbid don't get pregnant with complications out there though. I personally wouldn't want to visit a country where it's acceptable to have guns and Trump is president. How anyone can even dream to support him is beyond me- for the many multiple reasons people have listed above.

TheWinterWillWash · 06/11/2024 10:40

Why do you think it feels divided? He didn’t just win the electoral college convincingly, he won a majority of all votes. A majority of Americans want him…that seems more united than divided.

Deja321 · 06/11/2024 10:39

MarriedtoSeamus · 06/11/2024 10:35

My best friend is supposed to be off to Florida tomorrow and is seriously considering not going. I’m not sure I would be going tbh

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That's crazy. What does she think will happen?

RogueFemale · 06/11/2024 10:38

berksandbeyond · 06/11/2024 10:24

I would be scared to go if there was even a tiny chance I was pregnant, because if something goes wrong they’d rather I bled out or die of sepsis than treat me because the foetus is more important in their eyes / law.

Exactly.

PlumViper · 06/11/2024 10:37

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

having a new leader does not suddenly change humans ???

MarriedtoSeamus · 06/11/2024 10:35

My best friend is supposed to be off to Florida tomorrow and is seriously considering not going. I’m not sure I would be going tbh

RogueFemale · 06/11/2024 10:35

Mirrorxxx · 06/11/2024 07:58

If you are woman of reproductive age you are right not to go.

I agree.

DieDreiHexen · 06/11/2024 10:34

Up to you. I wouldn't let Trump spoil my holiday plans.

Can people not see it's a hugely diverse country. And the reasons people vote they way they do is complex? I'll keep visiting, just like I've visited Hungary and Italy this year.

I'll certainly be visiting my best friend in super liberal Vermont but we also plan to spend time in Georgia and North Carolina.

Most of my American friends are Democrats. Some are (shock, horror, Republicans) When we visit, they'll welcome us, we will have a wonderful time and we will put politics aside because we are grown ups capable of accepting not everyone thinks like us.

Gman0206 · 06/11/2024 10:32

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ForMintUser · 06/11/2024 10:30

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

As you say he got elected. You either respect democracy or you don’t. Wouldn’t have been my choice but I don’t get to vote in American elections.

Not visiting the USA will achieve nothing but there are lots of other places you can go so your call.

PauliesWalnuts · 06/11/2024 10:29

I know there are very few governments that are perfect, but I have a baseline of acceptable behaviour from a humanitarian point of view, e.g. women, racism, death penalty, dictatorship so I do make a point of avoiding those countries. I know my tourist pennies won't count for much but it does help me sleep at night.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 06/11/2024 10:27

I have no desire to go there anyway but I would need to check what the law would be if I had an ectopic pregnancy whilst over there, and to be honest even needing to check that makes me not want to go there.

RestitutionGranted · 06/11/2024 10:25

I definitely won’t be going there any time soon and will strongly discourage DD from doing so.

Modranihtandtomtens · 06/11/2024 10:24

Deja321 · 06/11/2024 09:46

This is so silly and shows the power the media have over people. Do you people normally look deeply into the leaders of every country they visit or their abortion laws? I certainly don't. There's alot of unnecessary scare mongering when it comes to trump.

I do yup! Not 'deeply', but I check for a few things before making a decision on where to travel. Much like @Brefugee said, places where women and girls are legally treated differently, as well as homophobic laws, few other things. If it doesn't check my boxes then I vote with my feet and avoid it. Do I think my tiny protest will make a difference? No. But it's pretty much all I can do, and it's not like it leaves me short on options of alternative wonderful places to visit.

berksandbeyond · 06/11/2024 10:24

I would be scared to go if there was even a tiny chance I was pregnant, because if something goes wrong they’d rather I bled out or die of sepsis than treat me because the foetus is more important in their eyes / law.

Overtheatlantic · 06/11/2024 10:23

anotherside · 06/11/2024 10:16

The US is pretty overrated as a holiday destination anyway. Same size as Europe but with at best maybe 5-10% of the sights.

You’re thinking of the Other U.S.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 06/11/2024 10:22

Hilarious thread from someone who had Boris Johnson in power only a few short years ago, who voted for Brexit etc. You know abortion wasn't legal in NI until a few years ago right? Why didn't you leave before then OP? Or are you ok with political divisions and controversial social policies in your own country but only become judgmental when you travel?

Mademetoxic · 06/11/2024 10:20

anotherside · 06/11/2024 10:16

The US is pretty overrated as a holiday destination anyway. Same size as Europe but with at best maybe 5-10% of the sights.

If that is what you think....

anotherside · 06/11/2024 10:16

The US is pretty overrated as a holiday destination anyway. Same size as Europe but with at best maybe 5-10% of the sights.

Sarah2891 · 06/11/2024 10:14

You couldn't pay me to go there

FaceLikeACrackedScreen · 06/11/2024 10:10

YADNBU, I gave up my green card the last time he was elected.

PlasticineKing · 06/11/2024 10:09

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

Although to be fair you just have realised this was a potential outcome when you started planning?

Chattenoire · 06/11/2024 10:09

We're going to LA next year, and we could cancel so we don't give any taxes to his federal government but that seems a bit like an overreaction too.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 06/11/2024 10:06

I'm going in December for 3 weeks so couldn't cancel even if I wanted to. I'll be watching to see what happens before booking another US holiday but certainly wouldn't cancel anything already booked.

ClarafromHR · 06/11/2024 10:06

I really wanted to visit Maine again after many years because I had many wonderful family holidays there. I just can’t do it though. Open and concealed gun carry without a permit is legal. And now Trump again.