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MermaidEyes · 06/11/2024 14:02

MugPlate · 06/11/2024 13:45

Did Europeans cancel travel plans when we voted for Brexit?

Can you imagine this in July "Im really concerned about travelling to the UK now, Labour have just won a landslide victory against the Tories, what might happen?"

Meanwhile Brits just getting on with their day

The only thing that would put me off going somewhere is serious weather related issues like wildfires, hurricanes, earthquakes, or something dangerous like a country currently at war.

Beebumble2 · 06/11/2024 13:59

You probably won’t be able to afford it when the tariffs on British imports take place. Economists are predicting Britain will experience a rise in cost of living and interest rates!

BruFord · 06/11/2024 13:53

Clearinguptheclutter · 06/11/2024 07:52

I’d go to a blue state. I have plenty of US colleagues and almost without exception they are going to be in despair. A lot of the US continues to loathe Trump.

This ^^

Every state has its own personality and solidly blue states are very different to red states.

You can’t compare it to the UK, it’s more like visiting European countries within the EU umbrella. Each one is governed differently and attracts different types of people. California is completely different to Texas, for example.

MugPlate · 06/11/2024 13:45

Did Europeans cancel travel plans when we voted for Brexit?

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 13:43

Dontlletmedownbruce · 06/11/2024 13:38

@StopPinsAndNeedles so you are an expert on a culture and ethnicity because of your ancestry? Maybe your ancestors are a bunch of assholes, you don't get to generalise about a culture you don't live in.

You know Donald Trumps Mum was Scottish right? He is half BRITISH. Is he a representative of British culture?

Why are you on a UK site lecturing the English, if you never set foot here?
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Dontlletmedownbruce · 06/11/2024 13:38

@StopPinsAndNeedles so you are an expert on a culture and ethnicity because of your ancestry? Maybe your ancestors are a bunch of assholes, you don't get to generalise about a culture you don't live in.

You know Donald Trumps Mum was Scottish right? He is half BRITISH. Is he a representative of British culture?

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 13:24

I have Irish ancestry and I have to say that the Irish regardless of ideology are the most misogystic and regressive male supremacists going.

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 13:21

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 13:00

Your cod ‘Oirish’ notwithstanding (way to be condescending by the way), yes, empirically speaking, Ireland has progressed beyond the dark days of the 80s and 90s when I was growing up there and there was no access to reproductive healthcare and women were trapped in abusive marriages with no legal way out.

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Now you trap them in prisons worse than any laundry?

Nuns and Priests have been replaced by secular progressives in power and on a jury.

Women always went to England for abortions.

Djanwb · 06/11/2024 13:06

Is there a sensible way for the states to readily allow a medical exemption whilst maintaining the ban on non life threatening terminations?

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 13:00

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 12:20

It's so progressive, don't you know now, in Ireland, this is the Irish loving on women.

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-acquitted-by-jury-over-charges-of-threats-to-cause-harm-1687705.html

Your cod ‘Oirish’ notwithstanding (way to be condescending by the way), yes, empirically speaking, Ireland has progressed beyond the dark days of the 80s and 90s when I was growing up there and there was no access to reproductive healthcare and women were trapped in abusive marriages with no legal way out.

ForMintUser · 06/11/2024 12:59

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 12:56

I buy consciously, ethically and locally wherever feasibly possible. Besides this thread is specifically about travel to the US, which is what I was replying to. If you have another axe to grind, start your own thread.

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No axe to grind, just asking. If you’re not going to travel to the US because you don’t like the government (as per the OP) just wondering if that applies to other things too.

It was also intended as a reply to the post you were replying to but has ended up being a reply to your reply!

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 12:56

ForMintUser · 06/11/2024 11:57

Does this only applies to “tourist pennies” or do you refuse to buy Chinese goods because of their government? Do you own a mobile phone that has Israeli made chips in it? Or is it just easy to score points online by railing against Trump?

At least America is a democracy.

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I buy consciously, ethically and locally wherever feasibly possible. Besides this thread is specifically about travel to the US, which is what I was replying to. If you have another axe to grind, start your own thread.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 06/11/2024 12:50

TheDonaldJT · 06/11/2024 10:51

Oh get a grip and go on your holiday. Or cancel it and go to Benidorm. Whatever.

Ooh didn't notice you there Mr President!

See OP, he doesn't mind what you do.

MzHz · 06/11/2024 12:26

Berlinlover · 06/11/2024 11:25

Get a grip, seriously.

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Sense of humour fail? 🙄

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 12:20

It's so progressive, don't you know now, in Ireland, this is the Irish loving on women.

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-acquitted-by-jury-over-charges-of-threats-to-cause-harm-1687705.html

usernother · 06/11/2024 12:18

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

Don't go then. It's up to you.

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 12:12

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 11:39

The difference is that Ireland has progressed over the past few years. The US is regressing, massively. I’m not going to fund that regression with my tourist dollars.

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Progressed? 😂

Regressed more like.

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 12:10

Modranihtandtomtens · 06/11/2024 11:28

To be fair my experiences the last time I went to the States have made me think very hard about visiting again even before this. I had to travel to Florida to sort stuff out after a family member died. The 'throw away' culture made me realise how far we've come in the UK. Not that we're perfect, but that trip definitely showed me that we've changed a lot. People still using disposable cups, not made the switch to reusable bottles/coffee cups/shopping bags, polystyrene trays and glasses for beers on the beach being totally the preferred way, overflowing bins of lightweight trash blowing straight into the oceans, plastic cutlery in restaurants, fast food outlets and even peoples homes, driving absolutely everywhere (we visited a retail centre and wanted to walk from one store to the other across the carpark but were told categorically by our hosts that it wasn't safe so we'd all drive over.)

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The UK makes a teeny dent in such global waste. It's why the crying vegans annoy so many here, we aren't the problem.

MermaidEyes · 06/11/2024 12:01

TheDonaldJT · 06/11/2024 10:51

Oh get a grip and go on your holiday. Or cancel it and go to Benidorm. Whatever.

I'd take the US over Benidorm any day 😆

ForMintUser · 06/11/2024 11:57

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 11:42

My thoughts exactly.

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Does this only applies to “tourist pennies” or do you refuse to buy Chinese goods because of their government? Do you own a mobile phone that has Israeli made chips in it? Or is it just easy to score points online by railing against Trump?

At least America is a democracy.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 06/11/2024 11:55

MarriedtoSeamus · 06/11/2024 10:35

My best friend is supposed to be off to Florida tomorrow and is seriously considering not going. I’m not sure I would be going tbh

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Why on earth not?

Bunnygirl1902 · 06/11/2024 11:54

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 07:48

Yanbu at all. I wouldn't be setting foot in a country that had just elected a leader with fascist tendencies.

Lucky them

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 11:42

PauliesWalnuts · 06/11/2024 10:29

I know there are very few governments that are perfect, but I have a baseline of acceptable behaviour from a humanitarian point of view, e.g. women, racism, death penalty, dictatorship so I do make a point of avoiding those countries. I know my tourist pennies won't count for much but it does help me sleep at night.

My thoughts exactly.

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 11:39

Berlinlover · 06/11/2024 11:08

Those of you saying you would not visit USA due to abortion laws, are you aware abortion was illegal here in Ireland until 2019? Would you have used that as an excuse not to visit Ireland?

The difference is that Ireland has progressed over the past few years. The US is regressing, massively. I’m not going to fund that regression with my tourist dollars.

Modranihtandtomtens · 06/11/2024 11:38

Boohoo76 · 06/11/2024 11:33

I stayed at a hotel in New York where every hotel room had a drinking water dispenser and reusable bottles. I’ve never had that in any other country that I’ve stayed in.

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Oo no me either!! Definitely a great example of how much it can vary by State.