To cancel plans to visit USA.

We have a holiday to the US booked next summer. Couldn’t afford to lose the flight money by cancelling, plus the kids are super excited, but also the country would still be divided if Harris had got in - all the Trump supporters will at least be placated for a few years now!

I can understand that. I feel the same about the UK, tbh. Rainy, expensive and too many whiners running around.

I do laugh though, a country the size of Europe but with less to see. We may be a "new country" compared to Europe but there are hundreds of places to see. I also think some of the world is just too ignorant to know that. 😆

I think the democrat success stories like San Francisco need your tourist dollar more.

Enjoy.

Don't go then. They probably don't want lefty loons there anyway.

Off topic, but why is San Francisco like this? My friend went recently and was horrified by the level of street homelessness and mental illness. Why is it like this? I have never been but it always looked like a fun and interesting city in the films….

This is my feeling also, not wanting to give the US economy money; I was thinking of going to Florida for a winter break. Tourism is a major money-maker for Florida, but I don't want a bunch of Maga-loons profiting from me.

Well, other countries, including the UK, Canada, Mexico, Sweden, Germany, etc. all have immigration laws, and you need to have pretty deep pockets before they let you in.

Maybe you could sponsor a few hundred? Let them move in, feed them etc.? LMK--k?

Unless you are David Lammy then I don’t see why you should cancel.

Do so, if it will make you feel happier than the holiday itself, but Trump won't know, he's never going to find out and he simply wouldn't care

I love the US and the vast majority of Americans I have met - terrific people.

As a Brit I respect their electoral rights.

I look forward to visiting the US again soon.

I have had very lovely times in the US under Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. I'm not white and did not feel unsafe from my contact with American humans - who by and large were charming and welcoming to tourists, even in supposedly unfriendly New York. I think you are being a tad over-dramatic, OP.

As for people talking about not wanting to go there whilst pregnant, abortion rights following the repeal of Roe v Wade by the Supreme Court are States purely rights, and no constitutional scholar thinks there is anything that is going to change that now through federal governance (ie Trump). There are plenty of liberal states that offer full abortion rights, rights that are far and beyond the rights you get in the UK and most of Europe. Oregon in particular is an utterly beautiful place and is very liberal in its abortion laws. If you are genuinely worried, just avoid the red states and stick to the blue ones where you will have full protection.

I do agree with pp though: how many of you have gone or would go to somewhere like Dubai, not giving a single thought to what might happen to you as a woman there?

There are loads of countries I don't agree with the government / political situation - USA, Hungary, Poland, Dubai, Serbia etc. Wouldn't stop me visiting them & it won't stop me going to the USA on Saturday for a 2 week holiday. I would draw the line at visiting Russia or Belarus though.

Which is exactly what I did when I was last pregnant as I had serious complications in my previous pregnancy which meant that my baby had to be delivered otherwise I would die.

Not until the case in Ireland of the woman that died of sepsis, which was roughly similar time when I was admitted to hospital in england during my miscarriage.

It made me realise that when pregnant access to healthcare is something to consider.

As an American, I am devastated that Trump won.

However, I take issue at your assertion that we are unwelcoming. Americans are about the most welcoming people you'll meet.

But if you don't want to spend time here, don't come. You won't be missed.

Yes, you should cancel.

Ireland was clearly an issue if you went, were pregnant and had complications that may require a termination. As is Malta. Poland. Germany has very strict regulations etc ad nauseum ad infinitum.

I do think that if you are planning to travel while pregnant, it would be better to check what the country you are going to has as an attitude in that respect.

I see lots of "visit Dubai" "visit Qatar" "visit Saudi" ads on the TV. Full of bikini clad blond women jumping in and out of pools etc. And i think: FUCK YOU. I've been to China (for work) in places that see very few westerners. I wouldn't go for a holiday. I hanker for a visit to Russia (I visited the Soviet Union back in the 70s/80s) but - nope. Not now.

Each of us is free (yaay for Western Democracy) to go wherever we want on holiday. Each of us is free to place restrictions on ourselves on where we go.

But as pp have said - actually in terms of what it is going to be like in the US over the next few years? Probably pretty much as it has been for the last few years. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

Yes. Abortion is only prohibited in 11 countries (not typical holiday destinations- they include Iran, Nicaragua, Mauritania) and I’d certainly take pause before booking travel, in case I had a miscarriage while going to any of these.

Only since becoming politically aware of this issue. I went on a work trip to the Dominican Republic when I knew for sure I wasn't pregnant, but refused to go on a subsequent one when I knew I was pregnant because I couldn't be sure I'd be given life saving treatment if I needed it.

In Malta there was that case of a female tourist having to be transported to Spain for medical treatment when she developed life threatening complications during a miscarriage.

I have an IUD and so if I did find myself unexpectedly pregnant there's a high risk it could be ectopic. I would not want to be in Texas when I found that out.

Do you normally look into the abortion laws of your holiday destinations? I've never given it a thought.

Probably nothing. On the other hand, I wouldn't travel anywhere abortion is illegal if there was any chance I might be pregnant.

Goodness me, grow up,.what exactly do you expect to happen to you on your holiday to the US? Some perspective needed with many people today.

If it was because you hated Trump then fair enough, but thinking its unsafe is ridiculous. You are more likely going to come to harm getting to the airport here

No, not unreasonable.

The choice to travel to the USA may be taken out of people’s hands - eg Trump plans to reinstall the so-called ‘Muslim ban’ in 2025.

So it may also depend on your nationality and religion. Or if you take a position of solidarity with others who are impacted by Trump policies.

To be fair, so is the majority of the West. It’s a deliberate ploy. Binary thinking and tribalism at every level