To cancel plans to visit USA.

No they can't. Because some red states are keeping a close watch on the movements of pregnant women. Apart from which, a woman who miscarries (even if the pregnancy was 'wanted') risks prosecution.

Then don't go. I doubt that any American (or anyone else) cares.

A bit rich considering the leader of the uk was locking citizens in prison for shouting at police dogs not too long ago.

I think you should cancel your plans. Then maybe you could write a cheque to the Democratic Party or whoever fundraises for them with, say, 25% of the funds you saved by staying at home? I am sure people on here will know where to send your money, so it can be sent on raising awareness of the issues you care about. You would also be reducing your carbon footprint.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock ·
Thank you very much for the link to the New Yorker article. I loved S.F. as a city, its history, architecture and people. Reading the article made me feel sad, but hopeful that it will rise again, as it did after the earthquake and fire.

Lots of reasons. But as in the UK, a lot of the homelessness comes down to not building enough housing for the people who are there.

In fact that seems to be the main issues throughout many western countries, home building has fallen behind need. Which is interesting in itself, it suggests maybe the cause isn't particular governments so much.

Anyway - they also have a huge drug problem, like many other places, they are huge on harm reduction which seems not to have worked like they planned

. And they stupidly decriminalized things like theft under $1000 so they are having huge issues with theft, and stores are pulling out of cities in many areas. Making these awful ghost towns.

Tehran, Pyongyang and Caracas.

Definitely will not be visiting a country where the majority voted for a dangerous lunatic. Says a lot about the country and none of it good.

Might be a strong response but I also would not want to support their economy under Trump.

It is also a moral decision for me. I fear for Ukraine and the Middle East. It is a serious threat. There are PLENTY of other places to visit.

Pretty unlikely anything odd will happen to you OP, unless maybe you are going to be going to the White House or something like that.

I'd be more concerned about going to a place like Cuba. (And to be clear, I wouldn't really worry about going to Cuba if it was the kind of holiday I wanted.)

What are the other places on your list OP?

Long article about San Francisco. It's complex - a Bermuda Triangle of gentrification related problems, fentanyl addiction and defunding the police.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/23/what-happened-to-san-francisco-really#:~:text=As%20the%20pandemic%20recedes%2C%20nearly,national%20media%20to%20censorious%20response.

I can understand that. I feel the same about the UK, tbh. Rainy, expensive and too many whiners running around.

Gotta agree with this and I'm a Brit 😆

Sorry, some of my grammar is poor there. I was editing, obviously badly 😂

Trump and other land owners made a lot of money out of development in San Francisco, over the years. With the arrival of the Technology giants made land very valuable. America doesn’t have legal protection for renters, as we have in the UK. It was easy to target the poor residential area, make people homeless and build luxury high rise developments. There were plenty of well paid tech execs to rent them.
Last time I was in SF, a few years go the homeless were very evident, more than I’d seen in any European country. However at no time did I feel unsafe, even walking through Tenderloin.. I understand it is far worse now.

Half of the UK vote was against Brexit. The outcome certainly didn't represent the views of everyone. Similarly many Americans are not in favour of Trump and his administration.

Same here! My adult kids are not interested too!

Assumptions are being made that you’ll have a choice in whether or not you visit the US.

Remember Trump’s ‘Muslim’ travel ban? The last time it affected 15 countries until
Biden lifted it in 2021.

If it’s reinstated, some people will simply not be allowed to go to the USA for a holiday, to visit their family, or any other reason.

A decision to travel to 🇺🇸 or not might not be in your hands.

That's ridiculous!

We were there during 2018 and 2019, it felt no different than any other time and we tend not to stick to the usual tourist spots but travel widely in the South West.

I assume you're happy to live in England and pay for a family who supports an (alleged) sex offender ?

If so, then you may as well go on holiday where a different sex offender holds just as much power. No need to pick your favourite

“as Putin will push pass Ukraine”

fear-mongering nonsense

Yes, do stay home too it’s all over.

Yeah, pity about the bodily autonomy eh? Or the boost for misogyny.

I truly hope not.

Yes, feel free to visit our country but try not to have sex. If you have sex, try not to stay more than a month so you can get home and take care of that ectopic pregnancy.

Or come visit, have sex, stay as long as you want and use birth control.....

LOL! These responses are so funny! What if the world avoided the UK because of Brexit. I mean, after all, you basically said you all were too good to be part of the "Union". Europeans should avoid the UK at all costs since the UK doesn't think Europeans are as good as UK residents.

The Brexit vote proved the above...right?