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To cancel plans to visit USA.

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LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 08:17

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 08:14

That doesn't answer the question.

I dont know if trump being president means other states will now ban abortion also, or whether it will just be up to each state to decide and plenty will still retain abortions.

It will be up to each state to decide.

Many will retain abortions, but more women will undoubtedly die as a result of being unable to access them.

Combattingthemoaners · 06/11/2024 08:16

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

Eh?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 08:15

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So they elected a rapist as president instead?

Nobody was forcing anyone to have an abortion. The argument was about choice.

Nothatgingerpirate · 06/11/2024 08:15

Yes, definitely cancel.
I would, if I was you 👍

Nevermind91 · 06/11/2024 08:14

You wouldn't catch me there anyway.

I feel sorry for the people of Ukraine.
I feel sorry for the children who will continue to be shot dead in the schools, shopping malls and places of worship.
I feel sorry for anyone with a genuine sense of right and wrong.

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 08:14

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That doesn't answer the question.

I dont know if trump being president means other states will now ban abortion also, or whether it will just be up to each state to decide and plenty will still retain abortions.

wotsitallfor · 06/11/2024 08:14

I understand, I think it's unsafe because of gun crime and if you're a reproductive age woman. You could not know you're pregnant, it'd be an ectopic and you're left to die.

Nevermind the fact they elected a president that has raped, incited the insurrection, and has multiple financial misdemeanours.

I'm happy to skip if for five years.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 06/11/2024 08:14

YABVU and a bit of a drama llama. Sorry. If you don't wamt to go, don't. But cancelling ebcsuse of an election result is stupidity.

Been to the USA alot and my most recent visit was the only one where in some cities I felt uncomfortable...under a Biden administration.

Biden has floated through the last 4 years and left a broken desperate country. Harris wasn't likely to do much better. Food prices are insane there. Fuel is crazy (for usual USA prices). Lots of homelessness. People rightly or wrongly are blaming the people who ruled their country for the last 4 years. They want the "great" America back and there's a man who's promising this.

I don't like Trump but I can see why people voted for him.

Lovemycat2023 · 06/11/2024 08:13

I won’t go whilst he is in charge. It’s not safe for women. But then I haven’t booked a holiday there - when is yours OP?

Amazonmulu · 06/11/2024 08:13

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

Totally agree. And during the campaign there was talk of mass deportations, silencing the opposition, improving gun rights, ending democracy ("you only have to vote once, and never again").

I won't be visiting the USA, same as I won't be visiting North Korea or Russia. I wouldn't feel safe.

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:12

QueSyrahSyrah · 06/11/2024 08:10

Well I wouldn't have gone in the first place, same way I wouldn't go to Dubai on holiday. I prefer to visit countries that respect their Women.

Have you found any yet?

Anicecumberlandsausage · 06/11/2024 08:11

I wouldn't go, not because of who the President is, but because I wouldn't feel safe there. The whole ethos of the USA gives me dangerous Wild West vibes. Also, if I fell ill, despite having good insurance, I'll have to sell my home to settle medical bills. It doesn't appeal.

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StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 08:11

RoachFish · 06/11/2024 08:10

Not every woman wants to have an abortion but why on earth shouldn't every woman have free choice?

They can move to a blue state and abort away to their hearts content.

RoachFish · 06/11/2024 08:10

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Not every woman wants to have an abortion but why on earth shouldn't every woman have free choice?

QueSyrahSyrah · 06/11/2024 08:10

Well I wouldn't have gone in the first place, same way I wouldn't go to Dubai on holiday. I prefer to visit countries that respect their Women.

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:10

A bit dramatic. A holiday won’t feel any different regardless of who is president. Do what you like, no one will care whether you do or not, but if you don’t go, you will be letting a man that you don’t like impact your life more than he has to.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 06/11/2024 08:10

Youre not unreasonable to not go anywhere.

I avoid China and Dubai as two examples. And when I had a stopover in Saudi Arabia once I refused to spend any money at the airport.

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Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 08:08

Will the abortion bans spread? Or have the states that have banned it, banned it now.

OutbackQueen · 06/11/2024 08:07

I wouldn’t want to go either. It’s a visceral feeling.

Berlinlover · 06/11/2024 08:06

Absolutely insane. I’m Irish, it doesn’t mean I don’t pop over to London for a weekend because the UK voted for Brexit.

Wincher · 06/11/2024 08:06

Yes, we were talking about a trip to the US next year but were waiting for today to decide for sure. I don't want to spend my tourist dollars there now - will go elsewhere.

Startingagainandagain · 06/11/2024 08:05

Why?

Many people and states did not vote for him.

Nothing will affect you negatively as a tourist anyway...

I just feel incredibly sad for a the decent people in that country who did not vote for him. I really don't want their businesses affected if they run something that benefits from tourism.

I am sure you would have not found it fair if the world had black-listed the UK after Brexit...

PauliesWalnuts · 06/11/2024 08:04

Not unreasonable. I was planning on using it as my last stop on a round the world trip next year but will spend more time in South and Central America and go home from there.

SherbetSweeties · 06/11/2024 08:03

You do you as they say. What do you think is gonna happen?