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To cancel plans to visit USA.

388 replies

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

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MidnightPatrol · 06/11/2024 08:24

I’m no fan of Trump but this is q ridiculous

Moonshiners · 06/11/2024 08:24

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

I absolutely cannot bear that anyone would say that this is good news for women. He is a misogynistic rapist. I'm gender critical but for fuck sake just because one of his policies happens to do the right thing, does not mean he is a good thing for women.

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/11/2024 08:24

I have been to the states a few times and have never felt much reason to return. Less so with the way the abortion laws went and now probably not at all with Trump in power again unless work ask me to go but I think that that is unlikely as most of my work is in the North East.

ColaCar · 06/11/2024 08:23

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2024 08:22

Why? What danger will OP be in by going?! [Confused]

Exactly. It’s hardly going to affect anyone going on a 2 week holiday to the states.

JudyKing · 06/11/2024 08:23

Don’t be ridiculous. Donald Trump doesn’t give a shit whether you come to America, whilst you on the other hand will miss out on loads of amazing holidays.

You do you though 🙄

Edingril · 06/11/2024 08:23

Gently I don't think they care

midgetastic · 06/11/2024 08:23

I would not support the US at this point - and that includes not giving them my cash in anyway

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ColaCar · 06/11/2024 08:23

RoachFish · 06/11/2024 08:18

What about all the pregnant women who gets sick/injured during pregnancy and are refused care because they happen to live in a state that has made abortions illegal and the doctors are too scared to help them? It's diabolical that anyone would want pregnant women to not get emergency care when they need it.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/

Didn’t this just happen under Bidens administration?

They can also move states.

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2024 08:22

Mirrorxxx · 06/11/2024 07:58

If you are woman of reproductive age you are right not to go.

Why? What danger will OP be in by going?! [Confused]

Truthy · 06/11/2024 08:22

Are you joking?
It's a good reason to visit now.

Valeriekat · 06/11/2024 08:22

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

More so than the UK?
I don't think so.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 06/11/2024 08:22

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:12

Have you found any yet?

Edited

Sounds like staying home with a "staycation" is the only option. Oh wait, does the UK respect women? hhhhmmmmmmmm....

I understand people not wanting to visit here. I feel the same way about 90% of Europe.

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2024 08:21

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

You do you. I cant think America will lose sleep over your decision, nor do I think you will base your final decision on what we think on here. I suspect you will still go, but ultimately the final decision rests with you.

Chipsahoy · 06/11/2024 08:21

Totally weird. Our family are there. We will still go. As with brexit, in general day to day life won’t change. People are still people. The same people as before the election. Some of our extended family will have voted for trumps party too. They are not crazy, just similar to those who voted brexit and won over by arguments.

wp65 · 06/11/2024 08:20

I certainly wouldn't go if I was pregnant. Other than that, I probably wouldn't be put off (or at least not any more than I was already, by the mad gun laws).

alexisccd · 06/11/2024 08:20

I didn't go during his last term and won't during this.

Spacecrispsnack · 06/11/2024 08:19

We won’t be going now, don’t want to give the us economy a penny more than I have to. Tbh the gun laws put me off anyway regardless of who’s in power.

MissAnthr0pe · 06/11/2024 08:18

I did this during his first term. I have a holiday booked there next summer but thankfully all refundable.

RoachFish · 06/11/2024 08:18

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 08:11

They can move to a blue state and abort away to their hearts content.

What about all the pregnant women who gets sick/injured during pregnancy and are refused care because they happen to live in a state that has made abortions illegal and the doctors are too scared to help them? It's diabolical that anyone would want pregnant women to not get emergency care when they need it.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/

Candace Fails poses for a portrait holding a picture of her late daughter, Nevaeh Crain, at her home in Vidor, Texas on October 24, 2024. Crain passed away on October 29, 2023 at 25 weeks of pregnancy due to preventable causes, including hemorrhaging,...

A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms

It took 20 hours and three ER visits before doctors admitted the pregnant 18-year-old to the hospital as her condition worsened. She’s one of at least two women who died under Texas’ abortion ban.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala

suburberphobe · 06/11/2024 08:18

I'll be there this time next month. It's not stopping me.

Anyway it's only a few days en route to somewhere else. Looking forward to some winter sunshine and heat.

It would have been like me saying I'm not going to UK cos Boris Johnson is at the helm. (Well, it was covid that would have put a stop to that anyway).

Of course there are countries I'm staying well clear of if I wanted to go - I don't - like Yemen and Russia. That's just common sense.

ColaCar · 06/11/2024 08:17

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

Go for it. The USA won’t care.

sprigatito · 06/11/2024 08:17

YANBU. I am always wary of visiting death penalty states and authoritarian regimes in any case, but the election of a violent rapist with despotic aspirations would tip the balance for me. It's not safe enough to qualify as a holiday destination, especially for women and girls.

HarkALark · 06/11/2024 08:17

ForgottenPasswordNewAccount · 06/11/2024 07:48

Yes, I would.
Same as I would not visit Dubai

This. As a woman I can't guarantee my safety in those countries.

MinistryofThyme · 06/11/2024 08:17

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

This is an insane take, and I'm as GC as they come. Safeguarding? You mean denied access to vital healthcare, resulting in higher rates of maternal death? Sounds super safe, well done.