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To cancel plans to visit USA.

388 replies

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

OP posts:
dottiehens · 06/11/2024 08:57

You do you but this is not an airport to announce your travel plans.

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:57

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 06/11/2024 08:51

I've said for several years now I wouldn't go back to the States (yes, yes, I know that it's no skin off their nose), but now I would be urging every female non-Trump voter to leave America, particularly if in their fertile years
It's going to be the Handmaiden's Tale IRL
As for those women who voted for him.... beyond contempt

Edited

Some of these posts are wild. You want them all to leave their home? Where do you think they should/could all move to? Would they go alone or take their families with them? What about work, schools, other family and friends?

Babadookinthewardrobe · 06/11/2024 08:56

BMW6 · 06/11/2024 08:44

Do you only visit countries that you approve of Politically? Or is this just Virtue Signalling Twattery?

😂😂 Could it be the latter perhaps?

QueSyrahSyrah · 06/11/2024 08:55

@ImpressionSunrise Spend a lot of time in Scandinavia. Even married one of them.

Boomer55 · 06/11/2024 08:55

I don’t suppose you cancelling your holiday will affect anyone over there. They won’t care.🙄

Klippityklopp · 06/11/2024 08:54

If you don't feel safe going YANBU but I would have thought there would be more risk of trouble if he hadn't won, as was the case last time.
If you don't want to go just to make a stand that is entirely your choice too but it would be interesting to find out what your actual concerns are

Babadookinthewardrobe · 06/11/2024 08:53

Chipsahoy · 06/11/2024 08:21

Totally weird. Our family are there. We will still go. As with brexit, in general day to day life won’t change. People are still people. The same people as before the election. Some of our extended family will have voted for trumps party too. They are not crazy, just similar to those who voted brexit and won over by arguments.

I agree it’s quite a weird response. I visited under Obama, Trump and Biden previously - from a day to day perspective as a visitor you wouldn’t know the difference, and as a visitor its a bit obnoxious to look down on the locals on their voting choices.

ForGreyKoala · 06/11/2024 08:53

Spacecrispsnack · 06/11/2024 08:19

We won’t be going now, don’t want to give the us economy a penny more than I have to. Tbh the gun laws put me off anyway regardless of who’s in power.

I'm sure the country will be plunged into financial ruin Hmm
Honestly, what ridiculous over reactions on here. Some of you need to grow up.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 08:52

RoachFish · 06/11/2024 08:31

It was the supreme court that overturned the previous 1973 law abortions being legal and the states that now don't allow abortions are conservative voting states.

And what do you mean they can move states? Should all pregnant women move to a different state in case they get sick or injured during pregnancy and needs healthcare?

I agree, there are a concerning number of posters who seem to think that because Roe v Wade was overturned during a Democratic term of office, that it was somehow a governmental decision. And there are also laws being enacted in some states to prevent women travelling out of state to have an abortion. Several women have also died after being refused adequate post miscarriage care, and a number were jailed after being accused of aborting their pregnancies, until it was established that they had miscarried. Doctors are literally in fear of losing their licences and going to jail for giving pregnancy related healthcare. It’s unthinkable that this could happen in a country considered to lead the free world.

QueSyrahSyrah · 06/11/2024 08:52

@Valeriekat Probably the same as parts of the UK, but with added guns & recklessness.

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 08:51

IVFmumoftwo · 06/11/2024 07:54

I wouldn't go if I was pregnant to be honest.

What an utterly bizarre thing to say.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 06/11/2024 08:51

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:45

Given that Trump is elected.

I've said for several years now I wouldn't go back to the States (yes, yes, I know that it's no skin off their nose), but now I would be urging every female non-Trump voter to leave America, particularly if in their fertile years
It's going to be the Handmaiden's Tale IRL
As for those women who voted for him.... beyond contempt

Cynic17 · 06/11/2024 08:49

You may not like the result, OP, but I don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference to you as a tourist.

sprigatito · 06/11/2024 08:48

BMW6 · 06/11/2024 08:44

Do you only visit countries that you approve of Politically? Or is this just Virtue Signalling Twattery?

It's actually pretty common for people to apply ethics to their travel choices. I refused a family holiday to apartheid South Africa and I don't visit death penalty regimes. Odd that you think there's something wrong with having principles.

Djanwb · 06/11/2024 08:47

Did America (or the world in general) collapse during 2017-2021? No it didn't.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 06/11/2024 08:47

Like UK have never been divided over political issues...🙄.

DaphnesCafe · 06/11/2024 08:46

What a strange reaction, what do you think will happen if you visit? America is an amazing country and I will continue to travel there.

Alwaystired23 · 06/11/2024 08:45

ForgottenPasswordNewAccount · 06/11/2024 07:48

Yes, I would.
Same as I would not visit Dubai

Me too.

OhshutupSimonyounobhead · 06/11/2024 08:45

I think YABU after all Trump is going to make America great again isn't he?

I8toys · 06/11/2024 08:44

I've never felt the need to visit tbh so YANBU

BMW6 · 06/11/2024 08:44

Do you only visit countries that you approve of Politically? Or is this just Virtue Signalling Twattery?

twentysevendresses · 06/11/2024 08:43

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

Good news for women...unless you need to make a critical decision about your health, of course 👌🏻 Because even doctors have no idea what decisions they can make without risking jail time 🤷‍♀️

(Quick reminder...as you seem to have conveniently forgotten, Roe -v- Wade)

Nesbi · 06/11/2024 08:43

Djanwb · 06/11/2024 08:38

How is trump a fascist? I see him as a populist.

The move to fascism is a journey, and with Trump and the things he is on record as saying and supporting, that journey has well a d truly begun in the US. The fear now is how far along the journey it will go over the next 4 years.

People on both the left and right of US politics have been wargaming (together) what he might do, and whether US democracy is strong enough to withstand it. The fact that is seen as necessary, and that there are people on the right as fearful as those on the left is quite horrifying.

He11oKitty · 06/11/2024 08:42

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 08:31

To all those wondering why the OP might think of cancelling... not everyone would want to put their hard earned cash into a fascist regime.

👏👏👏👏

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 08:42

BananaNirvana · 06/11/2024 07:55

Good news for women?????????

Not pregnant women, or women who miscarry, and in the very near future l fear not for women seeking birth control.