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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 09:13

Edingril · 06/11/2024 08:41

Fascist? Heard it all now

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Surprised you're hearing this for the first time. It's the term that Trump's former Chief of Staff and other former aides have used to describe him.

Tiredalwaystired · 06/11/2024 09:12

My Muslim friend cancelled plans to take her kids to Disney after he got elected last time. She couldnt bear the thought of going through immigration. 😞

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 09:12

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 09:00

No, the need to abort means so much to some, that the suggestion is, if that's the number one priority in your life, then the sensible thing to do is move states.

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There are laws being enacted to stop pregnant women travelling outside their home state to seek abortion. So people would have to make the move before becoming pregnant. I don’t think it’s down to abortion being the number one priority in life though. It’s not unreasonable not to want to live in a state that sees you not as a woman, but as a walking incubator, with no rights or control over your own body, your wellbeing secondary to that of your unborn child, subject to imprisonment if you can’t prove you’ve miscarried and at risk of substandard medical treatment because your doctor could be jailed for treating you properly. Misogyny doesn’t even begin to cover it.

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:11

timenowplease · 06/11/2024 09:09

Help what? There was a democratic election and a candidate you don't like won.

That is all.

What are YOU going to do? Because you're the one stirring up hate and division online.

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What? I am happy he won.

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 09:10

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 09:00

No, the need to abort means so much to some, that the suggestion is, if that's the number one priority in your life, then the sensible thing to do is move states.

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That’s fine. That isn’t what the poster I was replying to said though so not sure why you’re replying with something different. The pp would urge EVERY female non-Trump voter to leave America, particularly if in their fertile years.

Nomore45 · 06/11/2024 09:10

There’s absolutely no way I will be visiting the US during his term. I will not spend my tourist dollars there. I will actively make choices to holiday in countries that align with my core values.

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 09:10

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 08:51

What an utterly bizarre thing to say.

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When I miscarried in the uk I was very poorly and was admitted to hospital for a few days. I would seriously consider avoiding states where doctors are scared of treating patients in thus scenario as pregnancy is always risky and its just a holiday.

IVFmumoftwo · 06/11/2024 09:09

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:02

And is that different now?

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Might get stricter.

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 09:09

YankTank · 06/11/2024 09:05

Not really. If you have a miscarriage in 1/3 of the US, doctors won’t touch you with a 10-foot pole. They send you home to bleed out, and are only legally allowed to treat you once you’re on death’s door. Women have been dying from sepsis due to miscarriages gone wrong—another woman died just last week.

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Nothing has changed. Donald trump does not make the abortion laws. Each state decides for themselves.

timenowplease · 06/11/2024 09:09

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:06

Very divided for sure so would hate speech help? Time for unity

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Help what? There was a democratic election and a candidate you don't like won.

That is all.

What are YOU going to do? Because you're the one stirring up hate and division online.

YankTank · 06/11/2024 09:07

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 09:00

No, the need to abort means so much to some, that the suggestion is, if that's the number one priority in your life, then the sensible thing to do is move states.

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That’s only an option for affluent women. Poor women don’t have that option.

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:06

timenowplease · 06/11/2024 09:04

Very demure, very mindful.

It's democracy, stupid. Be thankful it still works.

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Very divided for sure so would hate speech help? Time for unity

Noisylass · 06/11/2024 09:06

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 07:49

It's good news for women, now that we will have the definition and safeguarding back.

World war was on the cards regardless, it's bad news for Europe as Putin will push pass Ukraine.

Good news for women yes tell that to the dead now in texas because of abortion law

YankTank · 06/11/2024 09:05

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 08:51

What an utterly bizarre thing to say.

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Not really. If you have a miscarriage in 1/3 of the US, doctors won’t touch you with a 10-foot pole. They send you home to bleed out, and are only legally allowed to treat you once you’re on death’s door. Women have been dying from sepsis due to miscarriages gone wrong—another woman died just last week.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 06/11/2024 09:05

@ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood - why be so literal? Because words mean things so posters are responding to what you said.

EarthlyNightshade · 06/11/2024 09:04

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 07:56

Good news for women that the US has elected a rapist as president?

Good news that American women will not have a constitutional right to make decisions over their own bodies?

Jeez, I'm as gender critical as they come but I will never understand how incredibly blinkered some people are with regard to this issue. Mind boggling.

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People who say stuff like the post quoted are not gender critical, they are giving a standard line that they think mumsnet might like to hear. A quick search on that poster and I haven't seen any other posts supporting women's rights, it's just a pro-Trump thing.
It's ok to be pro-Trump but a bit ridiculous to pretend it's for this reason.

Deja321 · 06/11/2024 09:04

I think you're being ridiculous and need to stop watching the news. What do you think trump is going to do to you?

timenowplease · 06/11/2024 09:04

LeighaStand · 06/11/2024 07:49

Maybe, unreasonable, but feels very unsafe. Very unwelcoming, very divided.

Not a country I want to spend time in.

Very demure, very mindful.

It's democracy, stupid. Be thankful it still works.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 06/11/2024 09:03

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:57

Some of these posts are wild. You want them all to leave their home? Where do you think they should/could all move to? Would they go alone or take their families with them? What about work, schools, other family and friends?

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Obviously, this is not possible for many - why be so literal? However, if I lived there, I would actively be exploring ways to leave; and yes, I would uproot my family to get away from the shit-shower that will be the next 4 years (until of course, he makes himself lifetime president)

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 09:02

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 09:01

Why is it bizarre ? If you’re pregnant and fall ill, or miscarry while in the USA it can potentially lead to you and your doctor going to jail, or worse, you dying due to inadequate treatment because your doctor is in fear of breaking the law. Nothing bizarre about that. It’s the reality for American women.

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And is that different now?

potatocakesinprogress · 06/11/2024 09:01

yeah I was booking a trip there, I'm going to Australia instead.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/11/2024 09:01

SweetBobby · 06/11/2024 08:51

What an utterly bizarre thing to say.

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Why is it bizarre ? If you’re pregnant and fall ill, or miscarry while in the USA it can potentially lead to you and your doctor going to jail, or worse, you dying due to inadequate treatment because your doctor is in fear of breaking the law. Nothing bizarre about that. It’s the reality for American women.

Katiesaidthat · 06/11/2024 09:00

BananaNirvana · 06/11/2024 07:55

Good news for women?????????

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Yes, it seems that electing rapists is good news...

StopPinsAndNeedles · 06/11/2024 09:00

ImpressionSunrise · 06/11/2024 08:57

Some of these posts are wild. You want them all to leave their home? Where do you think they should/could all move to? Would they go alone or take their families with them? What about work, schools, other family and friends?

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No, the need to abort means so much to some, that the suggestion is, if that's the number one priority in your life, then the sensible thing to do is move states.

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 08:58

It is called TDS TRUMP DERANGED SYNDROME.