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Anyone up watching the election?

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anon4net · 06/11/2024 01:16

Just that really...! Perhaps a bit more positive than admitting I feel ill about the possible results.

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iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:44

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 06:32

@iamtheblcksheep yes the streets in the US are full of immigrants, that’s right. Because the whole country is made up of immigrants. Or are your family native Americans?

For a European like me it’s laughable when Americans talk about immigrants as if they were a different species. You are all immigrants!

When people say the streets are full of immigrants they mean they see brown people or people not speaking English. That’s racism pure and simple.

Firstly I’m British but I went to school in North Carolina. Most of the friendships I retain from my college days are black and Asian. They have mostly voted for Trump. So stop with the white supremest angle that you’re heading towards.

You have perfectly paraphrased why Trump has won. People are concerned about immigration and the crimes the immigrants are committing. Your comeback is to scream racist. You got away with it for a bit but it doesn’t wash anymore.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/11/2024 06:32

From what I've seen, Harris ran a campaign based on hope, compassion and unity while while Trump stirred up division, fear and hate. His approach is obviously more appealing.

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 06:32

@iamtheblcksheep yes the streets in the US are full of immigrants, that’s right. Because the whole country is made up of immigrants. Or are your family native Americans?

For a European like me it’s laughable when Americans talk about immigrants as if they were a different species. You are all immigrants!

When people say the streets are full of immigrants they mean they see brown people or people not speaking English. That’s racism pure and simple.

iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:31

Reuters mainly.

Pippy2022 · 06/11/2024 06:30

Americans are definitely a terrified, paranoid people. It seems to be baked into their way of life so I can see why Trump appeals.

GotToLeave · 06/11/2024 06:27

iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:24

Compared to Biden/Harris I think he’s mother freaking Teresa.

I know democrats can’t debate. They just say orange man bad but pick a topic, any topic and I will show you why Trump was better for not only the US but the world. Americans are scared. They’re broke, the street are full of immigrants (there have been some horrific crimes that could have been prevented e.g. Jocelyn Nungaray had the border not been a free for all) and all Kamala cares about is giving gender reassignment surgery to all convicts. Why has Trump won? I think it’s pretty obvious. He was always going to win. The media just tried to persuade you otherwise. It’s looking like he’s won Pen anyway so it’s over. Congratulations republicans.

Where do you get your news from?

iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:24

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 06:09

@iamtheblcksheep decent people want Trump to win? You honestly think Trump is a decent man? Seriously?

Compared to Biden/Harris I think he’s mother freaking Teresa.

I know democrats can’t debate. They just say orange man bad but pick a topic, any topic and I will show you why Trump was better for not only the US but the world. Americans are scared. They’re broke, the street are full of immigrants (there have been some horrific crimes that could have been prevented e.g. Jocelyn Nungaray had the border not been a free for all) and all Kamala cares about is giving gender reassignment surgery to all convicts. Why has Trump won? I think it’s pretty obvious. He was always going to win. The media just tried to persuade you otherwise. It’s looking like he’s won Pen anyway so it’s over. Congratulations republicans.

Kirova · 06/11/2024 06:19

I'm up in the UK, up with a sick baby, so I've been watching most of the night!

I wonder if the Democrats think it was a mistake to let her take the candidacy unchallenged, even if it would have been a mess to have had a late contest? I wonder if she thinks it was a mistake to pick a running mate who doesn't deliver a key state for her?

Pippy2022 · 06/11/2024 06:18

Looks like Trump is going to win. America just isn't the country we think/hope it mostly is. Incredible to think Trump was nearly assassinated months ago and is now set to be president. Such drama. Only in America.

RhaenysRocks · 06/11/2024 06:16

springbabydays · 06/11/2024 05:16

Thanks @SecretSoul

So it's unlikely to change going forward too then.

I assume that's why the gun laws will never change either.

US politics is so complicated.

Roe V Wade was a court decision and set a Federel precedent. Overturning it meant states were free to make their own laws on abortion without fearing a court challenge on constitutional grounds. Gun laws are LAWS passed by Congress so it's a different process. Abortion rights were never in legislation. There's nothing Harris, as VP or President could do to change a supreme court decision, and rightly so if you accept the need for a judiciary that's separate to legislature. The problem is the bench appointments are affected by who is in the White House when vacancies occur.

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 06:09

@iamtheblcksheep decent people want Trump to win? You honestly think Trump is a decent man? Seriously?

iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:06

anon4net · 06/11/2024 02:05

I can't turn away...

So strange to me that in some areas Biden got more votes in the last election than Harris is getting now.

Wonder why that was?

iamtheblcksheep · 06/11/2024 06:06

Momtotwokids · 06/11/2024 01:36

I'm in the US and I just look on the phone once in a while. I know most of you want Harris to win but she has done nothing for our country. She knew Biden was unable to lead and lied and said he was fine. If she wins our economy will suffer.

I don’t want Harris to win. MN is a strange of enclave of the left that believe everything CNN and the BBC tell them. They’re not there living it with you. Decent hard working people want Trump to win. She’ll concede soon. Congratulations!

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 06:05

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 05:59

You seriously think that the way Harris speaks is word salad nonsense? In comparison to Trump? That’s actually absurd.
Trump’s speeches are famous the world over for sounding like an angry toddler or drunk uncle. You might not like what Harris says but her speeches are coherent and articulate in comparison. That is objective fact. I am not a Harris supporter. I am an actual linguist (PhD).

Forget Trump for a second. If you think he’s bad, then you want the opponent to be better, not even worse.

Name one thing Kamala Harris has said or done that points to her being competent or coherent or specific or having any real policies. Just one thing.

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 05:59

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:40

Oh dear, this means at least one more excruciating world salad nonsense garbled speech from Kamala to come yet. The pain is not yet over.

You seriously think that the way Harris speaks is word salad nonsense? In comparison to Trump? That’s actually absurd.
Trump’s speeches are famous the world over for sounding like an angry toddler or drunk uncle. You might not like what Harris says but her speeches are coherent and articulate in comparison. That is objective fact. I am not a Harris supporter. I am an actual linguist (PhD).

springbabydays · 06/11/2024 05:16

Thanks @SecretSoul

So it's unlikely to change going forward too then.

I assume that's why the gun laws will never change either.

US politics is so complicated.

SecretSoul · 06/11/2024 05:12

springbabydays · 06/11/2024 04:52

Apologies as this is off topic...how did that even happen on her watch? Why would we expect it to change if she wins?

It was a decision by the Supreme Court - which was loaded with Trump/Republican appointees. The President can’t just block/overturn a Supreme Court decision because he/she doesn’t like it. The process is complicated.

SecretSoul · 06/11/2024 05:07

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:39

And intelligent analysis just left the chat.

It certainly did when you joined in.

springbabydays · 06/11/2024 04:52

Blueuggboots · 06/11/2024 02:31

That's before we even touch in Roe v Wade......😭😭😭😭😭

Apologies as this is off topic...how did that even happen on her watch? Why would we expect it to change if she wins?

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:49

Countrylife2002 · 06/11/2024 04:46

Except he will become a dictator and won’t need to run again

Huh? Oh dear.

Countrylife2002 · 06/11/2024 04:46

username7891 · 06/11/2024 02:17

The only solace is that he can't run again.

Harris 23,321,195 votes (46%)
Trump 26,583,222 votes (53%)

Trump has a 73% chance according to the polls.

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Except he will become a dictator and won’t need to run again

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:40

Oh dear, this means at least one more excruciating world salad nonsense garbled speech from Kamala to come yet. The pain is not yet over.

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:39

SecretSoul · 06/11/2024 03:31

I think this is at the heart of why he stood again.

And intelligent analysis just left the chat.

Ytcsghisn · 06/11/2024 04:38

anon4net · 06/11/2024 03:05

It also feels apparent as President he won't go to prison for his crimes. Part of me think he concocted a very clever plan to protect himself and sadly people fell for it!

Yeah how clever. He got up one day and thought ‘I know what I’ll do, I’ll run for President’. Just another typical scheme. Because it’s so easy.

SecretSoul · 06/11/2024 03:31

anon4net · 06/11/2024 03:05

It also feels apparent as President he won't go to prison for his crimes. Part of me think he concocted a very clever plan to protect himself and sadly people fell for it!

I think this is at the heart of why he stood again.

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