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DH just told me he expects me to miss-out on a work thing and deal with childcare so he can go to the pub.

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Poppyfie1ds · 05/11/2024 21:24

I know this sounds like I'm expecting him to ask permission, but I'm not; quite the opposite in fact. Hear me out. My DH(M39) and me (F38) work for the same company both full time. We have DS (11). Now the company are doing a 'fun day' party type thing at the office in a couple of weeks time. Working at the same company we are obviously both invited. When it was announced a couple of months ago I asked DH if he was going and he grumpily told me it wasn't his sort of thing, so no, he'd stay out the office that day. Fast forward to today, and while I'm cooking dinner, DH gets back from the office and tells me "he can't remember if he mentioned it" (he didn't because it turns out it was only agreed a few hours ago) but after this fun day, some male colleagues and himself are going to the pub. At no time (not even after our row tonight) has he asked me if I'm planning to go to this fun day or show any interest in my plans.

Like a lot of parents, even without the added pub trip there would be the school run to consider if we're both in the office on the same day. So I was super p-off and said "so I guess I'll be doing the school run?" At which point DH picks up my annoyance and starts hypothetically roping in our parents to babysit. I got really annoyed and said that we work at the same place, we have childcare to consider we really need to be talking to each other in the planning stage and not presenting each other with "I'm doing this - it's agreed with everyone except you and the babysitters". DH has a history of presenting me with his plans in this way and if childcare is an issue just assuming the grandparents will step in, without actually checking with them. This fun day thing is a relatively minor issue on its own, but tonight was the straw that broke the camel's back.

DH has called me deranged for being annoyed. He tells me he'll pull out from the pub trip "if it will make me happy" as if he's being the good guy here, instead of the guy who doesn't talk to his wife about any of his plans, assumes others will deal with the childcare and who apparently can't say to his male colleagues 'I'll just check who's doing the school run and get back to you.' DH says that what I'm expecting from him isn't normal. It's not even really about the pub for me, it's about me now not being able to attend a work thing without any discussion - the grandparents won't be able to step in because they don't like to drive in the dark and it will be dark early, and I actually think there is some sort of school concert that evening too, which I've not even bothered reminding him of.

DH routinely presents me with complete 'this is happening' plans that have knock on affects to childcare (not to mention my plans) and I have to either smile, nod and deal with it, or point out some objection and be accused of "stopping him." I'm currently annoyed but remarkably calm. DH has had a complete hissy-fit and says he'll never make plans or go out again and that it's always like this. I am not his mum, I don't want to be presented with his plans for me to grant permission or get in his way, I want DH to be talking to me about his plans as he arranges them, like a grown up who is part of a family unit. I don't event book a hairdressing appointment without checking childcare is covered and it doesn't inconvenience anyone first.

Thank you for reading, that was cathartic. I guess I need to ask, have I got this wrong, AIBU?

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Rocknrollstar · 06/11/2024 06:20

Without addressing your relationship, could your DS go home with a friend and stay the night? That’s what my DC used to do.

Laptoppie · 06/11/2024 06:17

He tells me he'll pull out from the pub trip "if it will make me happy"

Honestly just say yes it will thanks and go to the fun day.

Maria1979 · 06/11/2024 06:13

I'm with the others on this one. Golden rule : everything needs to be cleared by partner before comitment. I'm a sahm to school kids (1Sen so don't have a choice really) and I have lots if free time during the day so obviously DH don't have to deal with dinners, homework, bed etc in the evening. So it's really a given that he can do what he wants to in the evening when he stops working at 19 h. He still has the politeness to ask me EVERY SINGLE TIME if I'm OK with him going to the cinema/ for a walk / see his mum/ friends when he wants to do that. It's just the polite thing to do when you're a couple 🤷‍♀️

autienotnaughty · 06/11/2024 06:08

In this scenario my response would be

"Ok but you are down to work from home and do the school run"

Then leave him to sort it out. He doesn't learn because you don't make it his responsibility.

Going forward would it be easier to have set days you each do school run.

Christmasfairy3 · 06/11/2024 05:59

Fun day ..sorry ,,bloody auto correct

Christmasfairy3 · 06/11/2024 05:58

In this situation
Carry on as normal
His responsibility is the school run today .
You are attending the funeral day as agreed weeks ago .
Up to him how he sorts it out .
Don't be his back up ,don't let him wriggle out of the responsibility

Nothatgingerpirate · 06/11/2024 05:57

godmum56 · 05/11/2024 22:17

OP has he always been like this and if so what does he bring to the table?

Yes.
He sounds a massive burden in life.

Zanatdy · 06/11/2024 05:50

shuggles · 06/11/2024 00:17

I'm always confused by the number of women on here who are married to men who go to the pub with their male friends.

Isn't that something that kids do in their early 20s? I thought people quickly grew out of drinking culture by the time they're in their mid 20s. Surely most people could not be fucked going to "the pub"?

No, it’s pretty normal for people to go to the pub with friends at all ages.

Zanatdy · 06/11/2024 05:47

He clearly knew that you were going to the fun day, and now he’s just decided that he is going now and you have to cancel your plans as he is going out afterwards. No consideration if you wanted to go for drinks too. Completely selfish attitude and typical DH reaction to kick off. It’s just so infuriating that men just expect the woman to be the one that picks up the child.

Diomi · 06/11/2024 05:37
  1. It sounds like you didn’t tell him you were going.
  2. ’That is fine but, as you know, I’m at the work do so you will have to arrange childcare’ would be a better response. It means you are not the reason he can’t go and once he has had the hassle of finding childcare a few times, he’ll probably check his plans with you.
shuggles · 06/11/2024 00:17

I'm always confused by the number of women on here who are married to men who go to the pub with their male friends.

Isn't that something that kids do in their early 20s? I thought people quickly grew out of drinking culture by the time they're in their mid 20s. Surely most people could not be fucked going to "the pub"?

viques · 06/11/2024 00:00

He has offered to forgo work do, call his bluff, say thanks and make sure he doesn’t weasel out of it!

Katbum · 05/11/2024 23:55

This is classic gaslighting. You need to say, 'I asked you weeks ago about the fun day, you said you weren't going, so I had planned to go. You can't just now tell me you are going and then going to the pub, you have responsibilties to our child and to me.' If he can't be an adult about this, it's really not going to be a viable marriage for much longer.

Pussycat22 · 05/11/2024 23:55

LTB !!!!

Avatartar · 05/11/2024 23:34

OP terrible wife indeed!
You respond to that with he’s being a terrible husband and father by making plans as if he were neither!
Time to grow up mate and consider your family

Viviennemary · 05/11/2024 23:26

I hate folk who change their minds or forget an arrangement. He said he wasn't interested in thd fun day and then changed his mind. Not on. Go to the fun day and leave it up to him to make arrangements for childcare

Daisybuttercup12345 · 05/11/2024 23:26

Purplewarrior · 05/11/2024 21:32

I would call his bluff and say yes, you will have to cancel your pub trip.

So would I. Selfish idiot.

H0mEredward · 05/11/2024 23:24

Keep making plans with the grandparents at last minute. Things they would love to do.

Then present this to your DH at last minute. Tell him he's deranged for not wanting to spend the time with his child whilst you go out with all the grandparents.

See how he likes it.

EndlessTreadmill · 05/11/2024 23:18

SensibleSigma · 05/11/2024 23:08

But you’re letting him. You’ve already caved. You haven’t said ‘oh no, how will we manage now you’ve changed your mind? I’ve already said I’m going!’

Or, ‘Oh yes, that’ll be fun! I’m really looking forward to it! I wonder what we’ll do about little Fred?’

Exactly - you are letting him. Make this HIS problem to deal with, rather than your collective problem, which it is not (assuming you made it clear that you WOULD be going to the event. If you didn't, and just assumed you would go as he wasn't going, that's a different story as he is not a mind reader).

EndlessTreadmill · 05/11/2024 23:16

InterestQ · 05/11/2024 21:37

“I’m going to the work fun thing, you said you didn’t want to go so you’re pegged for the school run and childcare. I said I was going in x month and you said it wasn’t your thing. Ergo, those are the plans.”

facts. He sounds insanely annoying.

This! Make it sound to him as if he's clearly been forgetful, and so of course he needs to tell the pub colleague he can't go.
Don't open your plan up for discussion. Yours is fixed and has been for months. He is the one who needs to work around this (ie adapt). Tell him he can go to the pub the next night/week.

SensibleSigma · 05/11/2024 23:08

Poppyfie1ds · 05/11/2024 22:49

Ooo sorry I'll just answer this one before I go. It's logistics that make this difficult we work far away from home when we go to the office. He's not working from home that day any more and didn't tell me this, he's booked-in to work from the office first thing then go to the fun day later, then he will go from the office for drinks locally. I am also booked similar as he said he wasn't going in and I was even hoping to join some after work drinks myself - but was waiting to see if DS was required at the school concert first. I actually don't care about the pub stuff so much as one of us will have to cancel our work plans and he's assumed it will be me without speaking to me.

But you’re letting him. You’ve already caved. You haven’t said ‘oh no, how will we manage now you’ve changed your mind? I’ve already said I’m going!’

Or, ‘Oh yes, that’ll be fun! I’m really looking forward to it! I wonder what we’ll do about little Fred?’

turkeymuffin · 05/11/2024 23:04

He does sounds annoying.

BUT for your own sanity can you find a babysitter option? Can DS go to a friends for tea? You pick up after fun day? Thats what I would do in this situation.

Animatic · 05/11/2024 23:02

I feel "I have to either smile, nod and deal with it" is what led to him behaving this way. It wilp be painful to backtrack to square one and break this habit of just pedalling on with own plans.

Backfromswimming · 05/11/2024 23:02

He's saying I'm a terrible wife for always stopping him doing things.

He’s trying his hardest to point out you never allow him to have fun, but he relied on your fun day ending early (why should it?) so you could be the default parent.
Bugger that and his petulant stance. His lack of forethought has backfired on him.
Do not back down. Leave him to stew and learn.

Deja321 · 05/11/2024 23:01

So were you actually planning on going to the fun day? Had you told him? If you weren't intending to go I don't really see the issue in him going.