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To not invite my neighbours son to every play date

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anonymouse23 · 05/11/2024 20:45

I have a nearly 3yo DD. My neighbour, who I get on well with, has a 3yo DS. We generally get on well and , due to living next to each other , bump into each other a lot. We're also part of the same (small) group chat where most mornings one of the mums might ask what everyone is up to, does anyone want to go to the playground etc. If my neighbour finds out I've scheduled a play date and not invited her son she gets very annoyed. Even if it is with friends she doesn't know , because she feels I can / should just introduce them.

Here's the issue though: her son is quite spoilt, doesn't know the word "no", he hits other kids or snatches toys non stop and his mum (the neighbour) will just excuse it as "aw they're just kids" rather than teaching him if he can't play nicely he's taken home or other appropriate consequences.

I'll explain one incident that might show what it's like. I scheduled a play date with my friend, I know her from uni and she hasn't met my neighbour or any of the mums in the group chat. As I'm leaving, my neighbour and I bump into each other. She asks why I didn't respond on the group chat that morning whether I'd like to go to the playground - she's just about to go. I say I'm going for a play date etc and my neighbour seems baffled as to why I didn't suggest she should come. I guess I think it's weird at the time but say I'll ask my friend and she should come along, the play date is at a soft play so it's not like I can say "no you can't go" - it's a public place, she can go where she likes. During the play date mine and my uni friend's child were hit, kicked, pushed etc (yes all kids push and hit but not to this extent, and normally the mum intervenes whereas this mum just stands there looking at her son with an adoring smile and at best may say "that's not nice", would never physically remove him". When it was time to leave her son kept running away from her, she wouldn't put his coat on until he "allowed" her (we were sharing a car and even though I was driving, I can't just leave her stranded as it'd be difficult to get back). As a result my daughter was overtired for her nap and it was all a mess.
Many more examples like this.

Anyway, I'm seeing a different friend tomorrow, my neighbour actually asked if I'm free for the playground tomorrow morning and I vaguely said "no I'm busy". Now if she asks what I'm doing I don't want to lie (as may be found out with insta stories, driving, and just don't love lying) but equally I don't want her to tag along.

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bevm72yellow · 19/05/2025 18:51

If she retorts or comes back at you with another sad story, anger, cheeky comment say " like I said it doesn't work for me"

cleanasawhistle · 30/04/2025 13:15

Just don't tell her your business.
All you have to say is no I have other plans then walk away.

I had a neighbour phone me and ask if it was right that I had gone somewhere the previous day with a mutual friend and our kids.
I said yes,she said but you didn't check if we were busy.
I said I hadn't realised she checked in with me every time she made plans with others.
At the end of the day OP you are grown adult and you can make what ever plans you like.

PeppermintPatty10 · 30/04/2025 12:57

As a PP said, it doesn't matter what her son's behaviour is like - even if he was an angel, you still want some time with your own friends. I kind of think you should approach the two things separately - first of all reduce the amount you tell her about where you're going and who you're meeting.

Separately, when her son misbehaves as a group playdate, bring it up there and then (in whatever way you think).

Maria1979 · 06/11/2024 20:45

anonymouse23 · 05/11/2024 21:48

The thing is, if there's any stories posted on Instagram where my child is out playing with another child or (we don't live in a huge town) then I can easily be spotted by mutual acquaintances or she may go by accident to the same place.

I think you're right in that from now on I'll be vague and say I'm catching up with a friend

Yes. Don't make this about your daughter but about you. I'M meeting a friend etc. That way it's harder for her to bust in with her son. He sounds a bit like mine was when he was younger which is why I literally never could sit down and chat because I was always watching, intervening, explaining. Mine is ASD, maybe hers is as well but how to know since she's not doing any effort in educating and teaching him social competence. I feel sorry for him because very soon all children will avoid him like the plague and then she will go on a banter about her son being excluded taking on the victim role. I can see this happening for sure if she doesn't start to parent. But it's her problem, not yours. I would just keep my daughter away from him or if they are together I would take him aside since the mum is not reacting. Do it infront of her so that she knows what is expected of her. Do not let your daughter be a punching ball because you're afraid to speak up!

Edingril · 06/11/2024 20:38

I don't know if this is just a female thing but with this and other example on MN why do people always suggest long story 'excuses' why not just so 'no sorry we cant' or words to that effect

Maybe people need to practice saying no more

JustMarriedBecca · 06/11/2024 20:35

GRex · 05/11/2024 22:38

  1. Always have a plan around 1-2 weeks away with her and refer to that. "Sorry, catching up with Kate today, the kids are just along for the ride. See you on Monday at tumble tots / church playgroup, shall we have coffee after?! Seeya..."
  2. Start telling her kid off when he misbehaves. Either he'll start behaving or she'll fuck off, either is a win. If she comments just say "Oh, but you hadn't stopped him?" and wait for explanations.

This is exactly what I'd do. "oh, DS is upset. Just popping over. I'll get Y and bring him over shall I?" Plonk child with mother

And as for meeting a friend, what everyone else says.

LookItsMeAgain · 06/11/2024 20:27

Oriunda · 06/11/2024 17:12

Exclude her from your Insta stories. It really is that easy! Set up a ‘close friends’ list. Share Insta stories involving your child to that list.

I’ve been invited to a lunch tomorrow by Friend A. I’m already going to lunch with friends B & C (who don’t know Friend A). I’ve told Friend A I can’t make it. No other reasons required. You don’t need to ask for permission nor justify yourself.

Do this.

Also if you are going to a soft play centre, you are under no obligation to bring her to/from the location as you may have other arrangements to follow up on straight afterwards.
She needs to find her own group of friends that she can do stuff with (particularly if her kid is or will soon be of school going age).

Lastly - put her on an information diet. She doesn't have the right to know what you're doing or where you're going so stop sharing with her what your plans are.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 06/11/2024 17:37

I would be straight with her. Yes it will be awkward but life is too short especially in a small town.

I'm meeting a friend and her toddler. Her toddler is a gentle soul and so it's just the four of us tomorrow OR. DD is not enjoying playing with X at the moment as he is pushing and hitting her too much. I'm sorry but she doesn't want to play with him and I am not going to make her.

LovelyDaaling · 06/11/2024 17:28

If you are going to see a friend of yours, would your other adult friends expect to tag along too? No, of course not. Same for your son. Too bad for your neighbour if she finds out. She'll have to accept it. Just be honest and say your son doesn't want to play will the same person all the time, he likes variety. And don't feel guilty, you are doing nothing wrong.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 06/11/2024 17:27

GRex · 05/11/2024 22:38

  1. Always have a plan around 1-2 weeks away with her and refer to that. "Sorry, catching up with Kate today, the kids are just along for the ride. See you on Monday at tumble tots / church playgroup, shall we have coffee after?! Seeya..."
  2. Start telling her kid off when he misbehaves. Either he'll start behaving or she'll fuck off, either is a win. If she comments just say "Oh, but you hadn't stopped him?" and wait for explanations.

2 is genius... she'd be just the kind of person to take umbrage at this, then it's win/win 😂

She sounds literally incredible.

Beamur · 06/11/2024 17:18

It's really not that difficult. Say no. Busy/have other plans/meeting a friend.
Don't put everything on Instagram.

Lanzarotelady · 06/11/2024 17:17

anonymouse23 · 05/11/2024 21:48

The thing is, if there's any stories posted on Instagram where my child is out playing with another child or (we don't live in a huge town) then I can easily be spotted by mutual acquaintances or she may go by accident to the same place.

I think you're right in that from now on I'll be vague and say I'm catching up with a friend

Sorry, but you're making this more difficult than it needs to be, if she see's you going out, you say I am off to meet a friend, got an appointment, going to the dentist/Dr etc. Don't invite her, its not hard.
As for it being seen on instagram, don't put it on?

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 17:13

Learn to say no, don't tell her your plans and stop appeasing her.

Oriunda · 06/11/2024 17:12

Exclude her from your Insta stories. It really is that easy! Set up a ‘close friends’ list. Share Insta stories involving your child to that list.

I’ve been invited to a lunch tomorrow by Friend A. I’m already going to lunch with friends B & C (who don’t know Friend A). I’ve told Friend A I can’t make it. No other reasons required. You don’t need to ask for permission nor justify yourself.

Lavenderblossoms · 06/11/2024 17:07

anonymouse23 · 05/11/2024 21:48

The thing is, if there's any stories posted on Instagram where my child is out playing with another child or (we don't live in a huge town) then I can easily be spotted by mutual acquaintances or she may go by accident to the same place.

I think you're right in that from now on I'll be vague and say I'm catching up with a friend

But who cares if you are?

Is she your keeper? No!

Just do what you want and sod her!

Be brave.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 06/11/2024 17:04

I have plans today.
I am meeting a friend for a catch up.
My son has been invited to (insert whatever you're going to).
All of these work.

BreatheAndFocus · 06/11/2024 16:59

She’s a leech and you’re enabling her by telling her your plans. Don’t! Who cares if she sees your DC on social media? She’s not your shadow and you have a life outside hers.

If she asks why you went to soft play without telling her, be clear that you were invited by a friend who wanted a private chat. If she suggests she could have come as well, just repeat “No, my friend wanted a private chat”.

I’d have been pissed off if I was your friend.

PussInBin20 · 06/11/2024 16:38

I wouldn't even say any excuses. Just "I've got other plans today, sorry" should be enough. You don't owe her anything.

If she asks what you are doing, I would just say you are meeting up with some old friends and leave it at that.

If she gets really pushy, I guess you'll just have to say that you don't have to do everything together/you are allowed to see others!

SilverChampagne · 06/11/2024 16:22

Just tell her you’re meeting friends, not that you’re going on a play date!
Why would you even say that?

ASimpleLampoon · 06/11/2024 16:20

You and your DD are allowed to have other friends and do things without them. Don't give the info and yes fib if you have to.

JadziaD · 06/11/2024 16:16

I don't really understand. You have a toddler. So yes, allof your plans, or most of them, probably involve your toddler being present. But that doesn't mean that she has to come along to everything. If she sees an insta story, or bumps into you , or someone mentions they saw you and she asks why she wasn't invited you say, "I was catching up with Jane" or whatever. The fact that you have two children of similar ages is a red herring here.

Theonlywayisuptoyou · 06/11/2024 16:11

Look you are either going to have to set boundaries with this neighbour or you are going to lose all your other friends because they won’t want to meet up with you if your neighbour and her child are always there as well. So you’ll be stuck with only having pushy neighbour as a friend and your child will have no friends apart from nightmare child, deal with this now stop being such a wet lettuce.

Waterboatlass · 06/11/2024 16:10

She doesn't have to approve of everything you do or be involved. It isn't a normal expectation. She's pushy. Make your responses less child centric and grow a thicker skin. That doesn't mean avoid the group, it means accept she may not like everything you say and that's fine. She isn't your responsibility.

Verge · 06/11/2024 16:01

PeloMom · 05/11/2024 22:26

Be vague. ‘ we have other plans’. If it’s a insta story she’s moaning about ‘oh I ran into my friend and we decided to take the kids xyz ’. This woman is nuts to think she should be involved everywhere in everything

This woman is unhinged.
Pull as far away as you can.
She will only get worse the more you indulge her.

downwindofyou · 06/11/2024 15:57

I agree with others. Why would you say you are going on a play date.

You are meeting up with an old friend. No one can expect to be tagging along with two friends meeting. That's fucking weird.

If she asks why she can't come just look askance and say no. You barely see this friend and you have a lot of stuff to catch up on and pull a perplexed face.

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