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Not hosting yet another Christmas

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halloumidippers · 05/11/2024 15:08

I have a big family, but we are the only ones with children, which has meant we've really sleepwalked into hosting Xmas each year.
Practically it makes sense - parents have downsized, and my three siblings live either alone or with partners so we have the only house big enough. DH family are all abroad.
When the kids were tiny it was lovely, but there now tweens and it's all a bit too much.
We really want to spend Christmas just the four of us but when I floated this with my mum I got an absolute earful of how selfish I was being, to deny everyone the chance to be together. To be fair everyone is helpful - most bring a dish, my brother can't cook so does a nice big wine delivery ordered here a week before... but we just want our space to ourselves and enjoy the holiday together.
I've just had my sister on the phone saying how I've upset mum, that we've always done it this way...
am I awful to want to spend Xmas with just us? I've said everyone's welcome on Boxing Day.

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Cat1313 · 11/11/2024 13:39

Just tell them sod off. They are your family, so you are meant to be direct/blunt with them and if they are over stepping you don't need to mince words, just say you want a break from hosting at your house so they can sort themselves out at Christmas.

1mabon · 11/11/2024 11:53

Just because you've "always done it this way" doesn't mean you can't have a break.

GreenSkyes · 11/11/2024 07:56

We've been doing it the weekend before Christmas for years. After one year when eldest DC was 4 and id not spent any decent time with them as I was busy in the kitchen I said never again. Now Christmas day is just out household. We have everyone around the weekend before for the big Christmas dinner and everyone quite likes it. Grandparents and an auntie pop round Christmas day to see DC and have some snacks. Then go home.

CactusPat · 11/11/2024 07:53

AnneLovesGilbert · 05/11/2024 16:29

Retract the Boxing Day invitation. Fuck being lectured by your sister who’s trying to bully you into still doing all the work every year so she doesn’t have to.

^This. Don’t host the CFs at all.

Pickled21 · 11/11/2024 07:51

What would you feed them all on boxing day?Would it be a full meal, leftovers or a different meal? Would it just not be less hassle to have them over on Xmas day if you are cooking anyway it do you plan to get a takeaway? It's just if they bring a dish anyway then you don't do all the cooking but if you are still planning a Christmas lunch or dinner for your own nuclear family you will have to do a few dishes anyway? I'm trying to figure out how it would be less stressful to have them over on boxing day instead. I'd invite them over new years instead. That way you can enjoy whatever time you have over the Xmas period.

Your sister could pull out a finger and host, I wouldn't appreciate her putting her oar in and would have told her so.

Doone22 · 11/11/2024 07:41

Seriously just relax, be firm when asked, you don't have to justify anything. You are doing something different for Christmas this year and that's it. Invite them for another day if you must but don't forget that'll make Christmas day stressful too if you plan to host boxing day for example
Better yet arrange to meet them out for a Christmas meal or experience before or after the actual day

T1Dmama · 08/11/2024 10:45

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:21

me? i couldn’t enjoy christmas as you appear to do knowing my mother was so unhappy and put upon

each to their own

i thought you were leaving the thread

Good grief are you two still bickering?
you both need hobbies

T1Dmama · 08/11/2024 10:40

Ellsx6 · 05/11/2024 18:02

@flipdiddle81 I do what makes me happy now, this year and last year! She won't be meeting baby as in the whole 3 years we've lived here she's not visited once as she doesn't want to travel here. DH mother also lives in London and makes the trip once a month to see her son..mine on the other hand..haha it's just laughable at this point. I won't be driving my newborn a 6 hour round trip to visit his grandmother..she'll have to make the effort or miss out 😊

My haughtier is 14 next week and has never met her fathers family…. Not a single one ever travelled to see us!

unmemorableusername · 07/11/2024 18:27

Start negotiating- they can use the house if they do all the shopping, cooking, washing up and cleaning.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 16:06

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:48

Yes, be miserable, because you think someone else is. Its really helpful. Changes everything, really! 🙄

“someone else”

that someone else being my mother
hosting christmas
knowing very unhappy

😞

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:48

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:21

me? i couldn’t enjoy christmas as you appear to do knowing my mother was so unhappy and put upon

each to their own

i thought you were leaving the thread

Yes, be miserable, because you think someone else is. Its really helpful. Changes everything, really! 🙄

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:21

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:15

And what do you want me to do about it? Ive told her to leave him. Ive told her to stop doing the things.

What does that have to do with how I feel about Christmas?!?!?! Why should I prefer to spend Christmas on my own than with family?!?! Because thats all I was talking about, here. Im not sure what your goal is here. You pointing out the obvious is not going to change anything. Ive been doing it for years and here we are. So we deal with it.
Worry about YOUR family! And spend Christmas alone, if thats what you want! Thats all this post is about.

me? i couldn’t enjoy christmas as you appear to do knowing my mother was so unhappy and put upon

each to their own

i thought you were leaving the thread

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:15

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:09

head. wall.

Your mother remains with a man who takes his misery out on her

Your mother hosts your step fathers children on boxing day despite fact they thinks she’s a witch

this woman is a “grin and bare” it soul

And what do you want me to do about it? Ive told her to leave him. Ive told her to stop doing the things.

What does that have to do with how I feel about Christmas?!?!?! Why should I prefer to spend Christmas on my own than with family?!?! Because thats all I was talking about, here. Im not sure what your goal is here. You pointing out the obvious is not going to change anything. Ive been doing it for years and here we are. So we deal with it.
Worry about YOUR family! And spend Christmas alone, if thats what you want! Thats all this post is about.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:09

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:07

Again... My mom loves Christmas. And is not miserable. She grins and bears it on boxing day.
If she had to do that and not even have the joy of Christmas, then that would upset me, yes.
They are different things. Because what I said was that spending Christmas with just my child, instead of spending it with my family, is not something I would ever even consider. I dont understand how my mom having to do something shes not happy with on Boxing day should change my opinion on how I would always want to spend Christmas!

head. wall.

Your mother remains with a man who takes his misery out on her

Your mother hosts your step fathers children on boxing day despite fact they thinks she’s a witch

this woman is a “grin and bare” it soul

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 15:07

Again... My mom loves Christmas. And is not miserable. She grins and bears it on boxing day.
If she had to do that and not even have the joy of Christmas, then that would upset me, yes.
They are different things. Because what I said was that spending Christmas with just my child, instead of spending it with my family, is not something I would ever even consider. I dont understand how my mom having to do something shes not happy with on Boxing day should change my opinion on how I would always want to spend Christmas!

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:00

It still has no relation to my stance on Christmas

clearly

it would for me knowing how unhappy my mother is

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 15:00

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:58

Im not sure what you want me to say to that. It is what it is.
No one likes it. Everyone knows its a shit show. We ve tried to stop it.

It still has no relation to my stance on Christmas.

sounds awful
and i feel for your mother
not least having to host them (and stick with the husband who takes out her misery on her)

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:58

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:53

so these step sisters rock up on Boxing day “scum of the earth” and “evil” as you describe them and your mother hosts them despite them thinking she’s a witch
joyous

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Im not sure what you want me to say to that. It is what it is.
No one likes it. Everyone knows its a shit show. We ve tried to stop it.

It still has no relation to my stance on Christmas.

riverislandjeans · 06/11/2024 14:57

I do get your point but if your going to do it boxing day anyway, you may as well do it xmas day and save the hassle!

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:53

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:49

I honestly dont understand why you are so obsessed with my family.
My sted dad considers them family. No one else does, nor do they consider themselves family to anyone else. And Im talking about their aunts/uncles/cousins, who go to Christmas Eve.
They go to boxing day, on their own, its just them and my step dad and mom. Not even their brother goes, as hes cut them all off ages ago.

so these step sisters rock up on Boxing day “scum of the earth” and “evil” as you describe them and your mother hosts them despite them thinking she’s a witch
joyous

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:49

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:43

i imagine your step father (the miserable one who takes it out on your mother) regards his children as “family”

and they’re not regarded as family but still invited for boxing day?

I honestly dont understand why you are so obsessed with my family.
My sted dad considers them family. No one else does, nor do they consider themselves family to anyone else. And Im talking about their aunts/uncles/cousins, who go to Christmas Eve.
They go to boxing day, on their own, its just them and my step dad and mom. Not even their brother goes, as hes cut them all off ages ago.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:43

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:41

Step sisters dont go over for Christmas. Only "boxing day". And that is her choice. She doesnt even want my brother or me there. Its her prerogative, even if we ve told her not to.

But Christmas Eve? Thats lovely. We all enjoy it. Everyone pitches in and helps with the food and the shopping, and the setting up. And I hope we can keep it going forever. Fortunately, the family all gets along. Step sisters are not considered (or consider themselves) part of the family.

i imagine your step father (the miserable one who takes it out on your mother) regards his children as “family”

and they’re not regarded as family but still invited for boxing day?

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:42

cherrysonata · 06/11/2024 14:25

The biggest mistake to make is to host Christmas too many years in a row. I made this massive mistake. The year I decided not to host World War 3 broke out in the family and took months if not years to recover.

As a PP said, there was no gratitude at all for the 30 odd years I had hosted. It upset me hugely and I've never had quite the same respect for the people involved that I did before.

it took close loving family members years to recover from you not hosting a christmas? after you had hosted for 3 decades??

ASGIRC · 06/11/2024 14:41

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 14:17

you mother is with a miserable man who takes it on her but she “sticks with it” nonetheless

and then she has to host him and his daughters who think she’s a witch for christmas

a dreamy sounding christmas (and life) for her

Step sisters dont go over for Christmas. Only "boxing day". And that is her choice. She doesnt even want my brother or me there. Its her prerogative, even if we ve told her not to.

But Christmas Eve? Thats lovely. We all enjoy it. Everyone pitches in and helps with the food and the shopping, and the setting up. And I hope we can keep it going forever. Fortunately, the family all gets along. Step sisters are not considered (or consider themselves) part of the family.

cherrysonata · 06/11/2024 14:25

The biggest mistake to make is to host Christmas too many years in a row. I made this massive mistake. The year I decided not to host World War 3 broke out in the family and took months if not years to recover.

As a PP said, there was no gratitude at all for the 30 odd years I had hosted. It upset me hugely and I've never had quite the same respect for the people involved that I did before.