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Worried about our house and socialising

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kva · 05/11/2024 14:32

Hi everyone,

I’m feeling a bit anxious about how our home might impact both our daughter’s and our own social life as she starts reception next year. I'd love to host playdates and invite people over, but I’m embarrassed about the state of our house – it’s in serious need of some TLC. The conservatory is falling apart and needs a good clean, the kitchen is outdated, the garden is overgrown, and a few doors don’t close properly or are broken. It just doesn’t feel like a space we’d be comfortable hosting in right now.

We recently decided to put our savings this year into overpaying the mortgage, so there isn’t much left for home improvements. Unfortunately, we can’t tackle big DIY projects either, as we both work full-time and don’t have family nearby to help out.

I’m really worried that not being able to host could affect our ability to build friendships, both for our daughter and for us. We don’t want her to miss out on forming those early connections with her new classmates, and we’d love to socialize more with other parents too – it just feels challenging with the house as it is.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? I’d love advice on how to make our home more inviting on a budget, or ideas on encouraging socializing outside the home. Any reassurance or tips would be so appreciated!

P.S. We live in an area where it seems like most families buy homes for over £1m (ours is much less) and borrow to do major renovations before hosting. Inviting people over to our place, as it is, feels a bit intimidating!

Thank you so much in advance!

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Clearinguptheclutter · 06/11/2024 08:17

rainspotsbrightlight · 05/11/2024 14:39

Tidy up, de clutter, give everything a good deep clean. It will be fine!

This. You’re overthinking

I wouldn’t judge a parent whose house was in a bad way as long as it was clean and safe and the parents came across as friendly

LIZS · 06/11/2024 08:15

I remember seeing Kirsty Allsopp on one of her tv programmes advise have a annual fund for ongoing maintenance of at least 1% house value. Maybe adopt that approach op, so you can start to tackle the jobs. If you wait until you pay off the mortgage the property may not be worth it. Through dc schooling we went to houses that were works in progress over an extended period.

jwnib · 06/11/2024 05:34

We still have some disposable income for extra-curriculars, days out, holidays etc, just not enough for big house projects!

Doesn't sound like that's the OP's situation if their overpayments prevent them from even adjusting doors, I assume it's strangling them more than it is you if it's being brought up in her opening post.

Zoflorabore · 06/11/2024 00:28

Hi again op, I never said that your house is filthy I was talking about one house that stood out to me after years of play dates.

to be honest I’m not sure what you’re looking for from this thread as you just seem to be bothered about your spreadsheets and letting us all know that your house is perfectly fine but “just” has an unclean conservatory roof and an overgrown garden ( and the kitchen sorry ) so why would that be an issue?

i still don’t get the overpaying on mortgage to help the kids out when you live in a house that needs things doing. You’re clearly not as happy in it as you say or it wouldn’t bother you. I prefer to live in a house that is far from Insta glam but is modern, clean, tidy and I am proud to invite people to. I’m also crap with money so what do I know?!

Saz12 · 05/11/2024 22:12

So... I think you have to spend on maintenance. Clearing gutters (avoid penetrating damp), mowing grass (so ypu don't need to relay turf) repairing skirting (drafts), repainting windows (avoid rot), replacing bathroom mastic (avoid water splashes rotting flooring), getting slipped slates replaced (avoid rot in roof). It's really costly not to, more than the compound mortgage interest.
Making it pretty? Well, if it upsets you that you're house isnt "nice enough", then you can choose to spend on mortgage interest or on home improvement, just like you choose between any expenditure and the mortgage.

TammyJones · 05/11/2024 22:00

BMW6 · 05/11/2024 14:38

You could make improvements that cost nothing!

  1. Clean the conservatory.
  1. Cut back and tidy the garden
  1. Take doors off and plane/sand down where they're sticking (YouTube will have videos on How To rehang)
  1. Tidy the kitchen and could you not afford paint for the units to refresh on the cheap? Or just a really good clean.

Just what I was thinking..,,

Heronwatcher · 05/11/2024 21:13

kva · 05/11/2024 18:52

It's not a matter of opinion. The full reno that would make a sparkling insta house will not bring a house value high enough to justify the cost. Long gone days when anyone could buy a property, refurbish, sell and make some profits on it. Nowadays people do it just for themselves.

I already replied earlier that we don't really use conservatory or the garden, so we are fairly comfortable living in the house.

From my side, I don't understand how not to strive to overpay a mortgage. A simple spreadsheet showing how much you would be paying to the bank if you don't overpay may change your opinion?

What you’re not answering though is that there’s a middle ground between a full “insta glam” reno and living with doors that stick and a manky conservatory roof. I also agree I wouldn’t be borrowing extra money but to me keeping the garden in a devent state, keeping the doors working and the conservatory clean would be considered basic maintenance, and I’d do that over overpaying.

I’d also have it decorated nicely and probably decent carpets. I do still think it’s a bit odd that you’re not prepared to do these basics- I just couldn’t live with these niggles and in a worst case scenario it could lead to your asset (house) depreciating (the garden will become unmanageable, you won’t be able to “create” a nice garden if you do want to sell, the doors will eventually break and the conservatory seals could be damaged and start leaking).

kva · 05/11/2024 20:54

Thank you everyone for your ideas and advice on how to improve the house bits on the budget! Really appreciate it 😌

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kva · 05/11/2024 20:50

Iworkatcloud9 · 05/11/2024 19:57

I don’t know, my daughter gets invited to parties, but just not houses, and she tells me other girls have gone to other houses for sleepovers and play dates… it’s bizarre, we really don’t judge the state of houses but do judge hospitality not being reciprocated, even if it means just my daughter goes that’s fine, it’s her I feel for.

Sorry to hear! It does sound a bit like that then.

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kva · 05/11/2024 20:49

Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:39

I’ve probably bought, renovated and sold more houses than you have had hot dinners, DH is a builder thanks very much and I work in a joinery so I now a fair bit about property. You still haven’t answered the question though, why did you buy such a run down property when the fully renovated ones cost the same?

You've done this and are still asking such questions! I did reply and said it is a ridiculous question. You buy what is there on the market, you don't get to choose from several houses on one street, it's unrealistic. And the property is not actually that bad, it's just not an insta dream home

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Gummybear23 · 05/11/2024 20:02

You live once.
Make sure your home is comfortable and nice if you can afford mortgage repayments.

After this overpay.

Iworkatcloud9 · 05/11/2024 19:57

kva · 05/11/2024 19:13

Do you think it's all because the house reno? Do other people invite each other home? As some posters say in some areas they mostly prefer an outside play, a park etc

I don’t know, my daughter gets invited to parties, but just not houses, and she tells me other girls have gone to other houses for sleepovers and play dates… it’s bizarre, we really don’t judge the state of houses but do judge hospitality not being reciprocated, even if it means just my daughter goes that’s fine, it’s her I feel for.

PhilsMajicHat · 05/11/2024 19:51

One of my friends lives in a beautil big house that they fully renovated when they moved in. I live in a tiny house with a half renovated kitchen, some rooms don’t have doors, and some rooms don’t have carpet (long story why we have stopped for the time being). I still invite her round, my house is clean and tidy and warm, I’m not embarrassed and she doesn’t recoil in horror on the doorstep and refuse to come round.

honestly, people won’t care

Mumof2girls2121 · 05/11/2024 19:44

Cut your grass, frenchic paint the kitchen, paint it all nice and white. Keep it clean.

Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:39

kva · 05/11/2024 19:23

This is so hilarious to read as I realise how much people don't know about property. Please get 2-3 builders quotes on the current full reno costs then have a look at the houses value on your street. You'll be surprised.

I’ve probably bought, renovated and sold more houses than you have had hot dinners, DH is a builder thanks very much and I work in a joinery so I now a fair bit about property. You still haven’t answered the question though, why did you buy such a run down property when the fully renovated ones cost the same?

TwigletsAndRadishes · 05/11/2024 19:32

We cleaned our conservatory with a Karcher jet wash and one of those soft brush attachments for car cleaning. You do need to be careful around the seals and joints, don't over-blast it, but it worked fantastically well. Then we washed the inside down with a solution of Flash and wiped all the mildew off with a mildew remover spray. It looked brand new afterwards.

kva · 05/11/2024 19:23

Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:08

A previous poster asked you why you didn’t buy a fully renovated house in your area as you said there is no price difference, why did you pay the same for a run down house that needs a full renovation and maintenance? Sounds like you have made a bad financial decision and your house sounds a false economy, do you really think your house in the state it is in is the same value as a fully renovated well maintained house in your road?

This is so hilarious to read as I realise how much people don't know about property. Please get 2-3 builders quotes on the current full reno costs then have a look at the houses value on your street. You'll be surprised.

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MissBattleaxe · 05/11/2024 19:20

Also you can always meet up at soft play and say you're having renovations done. Kids don't care and parents are happy if their kids come home happy and tired.

MissBattleaxe · 05/11/2024 19:17

One of the happiest houses I took my kids to when they were young was a messy rental that was full of toys, balloons and food and mess and the kids had a great time and nobody judged because the kids had a great time. Kids don't enjoy themselves as much if a house is like a museum. Get the living room and one toilet together and the rest is out of bounds.

Stretchedresources · 05/11/2024 19:17

DS never had a play date as his sister has destroyed the house and I work PT. He's always had masses of friends and invites. Most parents don't do it on a tit for tat basis.

kva · 05/11/2024 19:17

Namechange83649 · 05/11/2024 18:43

To answer this - we are prioritising paying off our mortgage over home improvements so that by the time the DC are mid-teens we should be mortgage-free. We will then have more money to help them out with university and/or anything else in life. The cost of living is only going to get higher and higher.

We still have some disposable income for extra-curriculars, days out, holidays etc, just not enough for big house projects!

I totally get this and this is our approach too. I don't get how people do not prioritise mortgage overpayment, savings, etc with the current economy. Esp when some need to borrow extra to renovate their home to give it some glam.

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kva · 05/11/2024 19:13

Iworkatcloud9 · 05/11/2024 18:36

I have the exact opposite problem. We recently renovated our house and is rather on the luxury side. We have play dates at our house but never invited to anyone else’s, although my daughter is invited to birthday party’s (not in homes) and trips to cinema etc. I come from a very humble background, my own parents house is tiny in a not so nice part of a city, which people know, I’m certainly not polished so don’t give off snob vibes, but fear other people think their house will be disappointing to us. We honestly don’t care, we just want to socialise with parents of our daughters friends, so please invite people over, if they are nice and genuine they won’t care what your house is like.

Do you think it's all because the house reno? Do other people invite each other home? As some posters say in some areas they mostly prefer an outside play, a park etc

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kva · 05/11/2024 19:11

Calamitousness · 05/11/2024 18:32

I wouldn’t be overpaying my mortgage. Your house sounds by your own words truly quite awful and in need of repair and decor. Honestly if it was just outdated but clean then I’d say fine but it sounds way beyond that. And being honest I wouldn’t want to visit your home as it sounds. Meet outside the home till it’s sorted. I’m sure others will say they wouldn’t mind but I really would. Again if things weren’t in disrepair or dirty beyond your scope then I’d say fine but it’s not that. Funnel your money into a lovely welcoming home first. Then overpay.

You would not visit a house with a dirty conservatory roof and an overgrown garden? Good luck to you in life, you sound like an awfully nice and non- judjmental person!

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Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:08

kva · 05/11/2024 18:52

It's not a matter of opinion. The full reno that would make a sparkling insta house will not bring a house value high enough to justify the cost. Long gone days when anyone could buy a property, refurbish, sell and make some profits on it. Nowadays people do it just for themselves.

I already replied earlier that we don't really use conservatory or the garden, so we are fairly comfortable living in the house.

From my side, I don't understand how not to strive to overpay a mortgage. A simple spreadsheet showing how much you would be paying to the bank if you don't overpay may change your opinion?

A previous poster asked you why you didn’t buy a fully renovated house in your area as you said there is no price difference, why did you pay the same for a run down house that needs a full renovation and maintenance? Sounds like you have made a bad financial decision and your house sounds a false economy, do you really think your house in the state it is in is the same value as a fully renovated well maintained house in your road?

kva · 05/11/2024 19:04

LBFseBrom · 05/11/2024 18:06

Evan and Poffy, the op did not say her home was not clean, just the outside of the conservatory needs specialised cleaning.

Thank you! Yes!
Don't get all the comments about filthy home, we actually have a cleaner every couple of weeks (as absolutely no energy to clean ourselves)

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