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Worried about our house and socialising

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kva · 05/11/2024 14:32

Hi everyone,

I’m feeling a bit anxious about how our home might impact both our daughter’s and our own social life as she starts reception next year. I'd love to host playdates and invite people over, but I’m embarrassed about the state of our house – it’s in serious need of some TLC. The conservatory is falling apart and needs a good clean, the kitchen is outdated, the garden is overgrown, and a few doors don’t close properly or are broken. It just doesn’t feel like a space we’d be comfortable hosting in right now.

We recently decided to put our savings this year into overpaying the mortgage, so there isn’t much left for home improvements. Unfortunately, we can’t tackle big DIY projects either, as we both work full-time and don’t have family nearby to help out.

I’m really worried that not being able to host could affect our ability to build friendships, both for our daughter and for us. We don’t want her to miss out on forming those early connections with her new classmates, and we’d love to socialize more with other parents too – it just feels challenging with the house as it is.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? I’d love advice on how to make our home more inviting on a budget, or ideas on encouraging socializing outside the home. Any reassurance or tips would be so appreciated!

P.S. We live in an area where it seems like most families buy homes for over £1m (ours is much less) and borrow to do major renovations before hosting. Inviting people over to our place, as it is, feels a bit intimidating!

Thank you so much in advance!

OP posts:
Putthekettleon73 · 06/11/2024 15:16

Nice friends won't care about a dated kitchen! Or a dirty conservatory roof. I had a dates kitchen for years. As long as you can offer a cuppa and it's clean enough inside to be safe and comfortable then do not worry.
Kids love being at other people's houses and seeing their toys. They don't give two hours if it's scruffy.

RubyRooRed · 06/11/2024 15:10

Also @kva , you said you cut your grass a few times a year …
That’s not enough , in the summer when it’s hot / rainy our grass grows so quickly , we are out every week / 2 weeks at a push running lawnmower over it to keep it trim and neat . It’s a 15 min job at most to keep it neat.
One of our neighbours is like you , cuts it once then leaves it for months to the point it’s long like a meadow and I look out in dismay as it’s so untidy and brings the street down.
Then he will cut it again and the same thing it’s nice for a week or two then left to be an eyesore.
I just can’t understand how fit , able bodied people can’t get out and just keep a patch of lawn mowed…

kva · 06/11/2024 15:07

Heronwatcher · 06/11/2024 14:53

Sounds like you need to write down all the jobs, break them down eg gardening includes: new fencing, weeding, cutting back, replanting. Some jobs you outsource and pay for, most you learn to do it bit by bit over weekends, annual leave, evenings. Prioritise the most important and agree with husband what to focus on first. Eg safety issues would be top of my list, including replacing fencing, making garden safe to play, getting any rewiring or plumbing issues sorted.

How dare you suggest that OP does DIY! Begone to your little castle with your petty bourgeois ideas about nice homes. The OP is far too busy being entertained at friends’ houses with glasses of Prosecco on the HKOC bar or frequenting the Pont de La Tour to be bothered to do this, dontchaknow.

And don’t even think of paying someone to do it either. Won’t someone think of the spreadsheet?

What are you trying to achieve with your comment, again?

OP posts:
kva · 06/11/2024 15:05

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 14:21

@kva
You cannot be so naive to think most people don't consider the whole street/area when buying a house? you might not, but most do.
I wouldn't consider a house if next door was a dump/eyesore.

If you live in London where people move frequently you might be a bit disappointed to base your house choice on the neighbours!

Watch carefully every house on your street, god forbid someone untidy will move in and let their garden to overgrown. Life would be truly awful then!

OP posts:
Heronwatcher · 06/11/2024 14:53

Sounds like you need to write down all the jobs, break them down eg gardening includes: new fencing, weeding, cutting back, replanting. Some jobs you outsource and pay for, most you learn to do it bit by bit over weekends, annual leave, evenings. Prioritise the most important and agree with husband what to focus on first. Eg safety issues would be top of my list, including replacing fencing, making garden safe to play, getting any rewiring or plumbing issues sorted.

How dare you suggest that OP does DIY! Begone to your little castle with your petty bourgeois ideas about nice homes. The OP is far too busy being entertained at friends’ houses with glasses of Prosecco on the HKOC bar or frequenting the Pont de La Tour to be bothered to do this, dontchaknow.

And don’t even think of paying someone to do it either. Won’t someone think of the spreadsheet?

Davros · 06/11/2024 14:32

@Heronwatcher God you sound judgey, “little castle”, “poking nose into finances”, “is your life that boring…”.
Exactly what I said upthread. I think OP is projecting her own issues onto other people who have no idea how much she judges them for being "imaginary judgy"

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 14:21

@kva
You cannot be so naive to think most people don't consider the whole street/area when buying a house? you might not, but most do.
I wouldn't consider a house if next door was a dump/eyesore.

kva · 06/11/2024 14:03

Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 12:54

Is my life boring hell no, 4 DKs, plus grandkids I baby sit for while parents work,up to 5 nights a week nursing big garden, animals,grass is cut every 3 days unless it's raining. Why am I invested in the neighbours, because of the countless viewers who came round and said that they loved our pretty neat cottage, and sorry didn't want to live there because of the neighbours properties. Bindweed, nettles, brambles don't happily sit in one garden, they encroach, they ruin nearby gardens, vegetable plots, eventually the brambles smash through the fence.

I am sorry but that's ridiculous. You can't buy a property based on the fact that you like neighbours and how they do their garden. What will they do if the neighbours move and someone less tidy moves in? Sell the house and run after the neighbours?

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FateReset · 06/11/2024 14:00

Sounds like you need to write down all the jobs, break them down eg gardening includes: new fencing, weeding, cutting back, replanting. Some jobs you outsource and pay for, most you learn to do it bit by bit over weekends, annual leave, evenings. Prioritise the most important and agree with husband what to focus on first. Eg safety issues would be top of my list, including replacing fencing, making garden safe to play, getting any rewiring or plumbing issues sorted.

Get rid of clutter! A cluttered house never looks clean or tidy.

I don't think other parents will judge you on how old/new your kitchen is, but they may look at potential hazards or get a feeling your home is unkempt, chaotic or un-cared for. But you can fix most of the issues yourselves eg clearing garden bit by bit. Think functional and safe rather than stylish. Get rid of all rubbish then clear it, so it's at least a work in progress. Walls can be painted or papered yourselves eg after work.

Work with the space and budget that you have, don't wait until you've saved up. Children need safe, organised spaces to play, a clean area to eat, easy to use storage for toys etc.

kva · 06/11/2024 13:34

Heronwatcher · 06/11/2024 12:54

God you sound judgey, “little castle”, “poking nose into finances”, “is your life that boring…”.

You’ve had some good advice here already (basically pull your finger out and do some basic DIY), as well as people quite politely asking whether you’ve got your priorities straight, given that you yourself appear to admit that you’re ashamed of where you live and, in your own words your house is in “desperate need” of TLC.

Is there any need for the snide comments just because people aren’t agreeing with you that a perfect excel spreadsheet is better than a childhood where kids can have friends over? Maybe you need to take a step back and really think about why you are so defensive (Google “inverse snobbery” for a start).

I didn't ask for your or anyone's advise on whether I should overpay my mortgage, did I?

Neither I asked on whether I should spend all my weekend doing DIYs?

To be honest, if you sound judgemental you will receive an appropriate response from me. To the rest of people who's been quite nice and posted useful tips I said thank you.

If you don't like my replies nothing keeps you here, on my thread!

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kva · 06/11/2024 13:31

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 11:38

Tbh I've no idea why OP has posted, endless advice and she's sticking to her 'we don't use the garden' so it's ok to be a tip.
If you're concerned to the point you realise your house is scruffy, then do something about it. overpaying a mortgage, endless activities but not looking after the house that you're obsessed with owning is very odd.
Keeping the house in a good maintained condition helps increase/hold value, it's your biggest asset; take care of it.

Seriously? How can you not get it?

The explanation that we don't use the garden is for the people who say we should reconsider our position / priorities or judge our financial decisions or even income! I did not ask for all of this!

The useful tips on how to improve it on a low budget, quickly etc - thanked people for it.

Really, why do people think its ok to give an advice on someone financial priorities is beyond my understanding!

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kva · 06/11/2024 13:27

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 10:47

But you're now worried your social life, or the social life of your child, risks being negatively impacted by your house and garden, so why not make a few minor social sacrifices by skipping things for a couple of weekends and do some easily achievable, inexpensive cleaning and redecorating.

Our house is partway through a long-running renovation we've had to pause to scrape together cash for the next stage, but it also has to be habitable, at least in parts, and not be such that we're reluctant to host friends here.

It's perfectly possible you also go out this much at weekends because the house is currently a depressing and uninviting environment. I know we went out more when our house was barely inhabitable and not in a state to have people around on, though one year we did host a big Christmas dinner where we just told everyone to dress very warmly because the house had no back. It's perfectly possible to have a diverse social life that in part happens in your own home, even when that home is far from ideal.

And that's why I posted here - to find the quick and efficient tips on the house reno (not the financial advising or judgment on my lifestyle and priorities!). I actually thanked many members for their tips!

Re going out because we don't like our house - absolutely not. This is a bit naive to say so. People who really need a precious castle pour their money and energy into it, it's clear that we are not like that. We were like this even when we rented out a fully renovated property in the past.

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Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 13:22

Heronwatcher · 06/11/2024 12:54

God you sound judgey, “little castle”, “poking nose into finances”, “is your life that boring…”.

You’ve had some good advice here already (basically pull your finger out and do some basic DIY), as well as people quite politely asking whether you’ve got your priorities straight, given that you yourself appear to admit that you’re ashamed of where you live and, in your own words your house is in “desperate need” of TLC.

Is there any need for the snide comments just because people aren’t agreeing with you that a perfect excel spreadsheet is better than a childhood where kids can have friends over? Maybe you need to take a step back and really think about why you are so defensive (Google “inverse snobbery” for a start).

Yes,all of this

Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 13:20

As for people "sticking their nose in your finances", you made it sound as though your mortgage is huge,you have no money for tradesmen, people came on to post to help you out with inexpensive ways to make the house nicer nearer so you could have your daughter's friends round. Well, there is obviously plenty of surplus cash,you can take them out for meals, and you won't have to worry about them seeing your dated property.

Heronwatcher · 06/11/2024 12:54

kva · 06/11/2024 10:20

For the record, our garden is nothing like that (we mow the lawn a few times a year, clean it before spring, etc). However some of our neighbors gardens on the street do have rubbish, etc.

It would never cross my mind to judge them - I would just assume they would like to go out on weekends, rather then use their garden or simply don't have time/energy to sort it out. Why is that even your business to care about your neighbors properties??? Is the life really that boring that there is nothing else to worry about?

We don't use the garden/house on weekends that much not because we don't like being there - it's simply because we are very outgoing and usually attend 3-5 events each weekend. But don't feel you need to tell me to drop this and live my life like YOU want.

God you sound judgey, “little castle”, “poking nose into finances”, “is your life that boring…”.

You’ve had some good advice here already (basically pull your finger out and do some basic DIY), as well as people quite politely asking whether you’ve got your priorities straight, given that you yourself appear to admit that you’re ashamed of where you live and, in your own words your house is in “desperate need” of TLC.

Is there any need for the snide comments just because people aren’t agreeing with you that a perfect excel spreadsheet is better than a childhood where kids can have friends over? Maybe you need to take a step back and really think about why you are so defensive (Google “inverse snobbery” for a start).

Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 12:54

Is my life boring hell no, 4 DKs, plus grandkids I baby sit for while parents work,up to 5 nights a week nursing big garden, animals,grass is cut every 3 days unless it's raining. Why am I invested in the neighbours, because of the countless viewers who came round and said that they loved our pretty neat cottage, and sorry didn't want to live there because of the neighbours properties. Bindweed, nettles, brambles don't happily sit in one garden, they encroach, they ruin nearby gardens, vegetable plots, eventually the brambles smash through the fence.

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 11:38

Tbh I've no idea why OP has posted, endless advice and she's sticking to her 'we don't use the garden' so it's ok to be a tip.
If you're concerned to the point you realise your house is scruffy, then do something about it. overpaying a mortgage, endless activities but not looking after the house that you're obsessed with owning is very odd.
Keeping the house in a good maintained condition helps increase/hold value, it's your biggest asset; take care of it.

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 10:47

kva · 06/11/2024 10:20

For the record, our garden is nothing like that (we mow the lawn a few times a year, clean it before spring, etc). However some of our neighbors gardens on the street do have rubbish, etc.

It would never cross my mind to judge them - I would just assume they would like to go out on weekends, rather then use their garden or simply don't have time/energy to sort it out. Why is that even your business to care about your neighbors properties??? Is the life really that boring that there is nothing else to worry about?

We don't use the garden/house on weekends that much not because we don't like being there - it's simply because we are very outgoing and usually attend 3-5 events each weekend. But don't feel you need to tell me to drop this and live my life like YOU want.

But you're now worried your social life, or the social life of your child, risks being negatively impacted by your house and garden, so why not make a few minor social sacrifices by skipping things for a couple of weekends and do some easily achievable, inexpensive cleaning and redecorating.

Our house is partway through a long-running renovation we've had to pause to scrape together cash for the next stage, but it also has to be habitable, at least in parts, and not be such that we're reluctant to host friends here.

It's perfectly possible you also go out this much at weekends because the house is currently a depressing and uninviting environment. I know we went out more when our house was barely inhabitable and not in a state to have people around on, though one year we did host a big Christmas dinner where we just told everyone to dress very warmly because the house had no back. It's perfectly possible to have a diverse social life that in part happens in your own home, even when that home is far from ideal.

kva · 06/11/2024 10:20

Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 09:23

SnoopysHoose, I agree, different if you have serious health issues or impairment,we had a hell of a job to sell our last house,it was a semi, the other side weeds a foot tall in the gutters alone, other side, garden full of rubbish. These were professional people, one was a manager for a big pharma company, the other a private clinical psychologist.

For the record, our garden is nothing like that (we mow the lawn a few times a year, clean it before spring, etc). However some of our neighbors gardens on the street do have rubbish, etc.

It would never cross my mind to judge them - I would just assume they would like to go out on weekends, rather then use their garden or simply don't have time/energy to sort it out. Why is that even your business to care about your neighbors properties??? Is the life really that boring that there is nothing else to worry about?

We don't use the garden/house on weekends that much not because we don't like being there - it's simply because we are very outgoing and usually attend 3-5 events each weekend. But don't feel you need to tell me to drop this and live my life like YOU want.

OP posts:
kva · 06/11/2024 10:10

jwnib · 06/11/2024 05:34

We still have some disposable income for extra-curriculars, days out, holidays etc, just not enough for big house projects!

Doesn't sound like that's the OP's situation if their overpayments prevent them from even adjusting doors, I assume it's strangling them more than it is you if it's being brought up in her opening post.

Why are you even sticking your nose into my financial situation? We do 3 x holidays a year and also work remotely in Europe form time to time. We prioritise education for our daughter - she has 3 x extra classes a week in addition to her childcare.

We just have a lower priority for fixing these things for the house. Don't judge what people earn by their houses or how they look.

OP posts:
kva · 06/11/2024 10:01

Zoflorabore · 06/11/2024 00:28

Hi again op, I never said that your house is filthy I was talking about one house that stood out to me after years of play dates.

to be honest I’m not sure what you’re looking for from this thread as you just seem to be bothered about your spreadsheets and letting us all know that your house is perfectly fine but “just” has an unclean conservatory roof and an overgrown garden ( and the kitchen sorry ) so why would that be an issue?

i still don’t get the overpaying on mortgage to help the kids out when you live in a house that needs things doing. You’re clearly not as happy in it as you say or it wouldn’t bother you. I prefer to live in a house that is far from Insta glam but is modern, clean, tidy and I am proud to invite people to. I’m also crap with money so what do I know?!

The post already says what I am looking for - the tips on how to improve these bits on a low budget (as it's clearly not the top priority for us and only needed not to feel judged when we invite my daughter's school friends).

I get that you don't get the mortgage overpayment - to each their own I guess

OP posts:
Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 09:23

SnoopysHoose, I agree, different if you have serious health issues or impairment,we had a hell of a job to sell our last house,it was a semi, the other side weeds a foot tall in the gutters alone, other side, garden full of rubbish. These were professional people, one was a manager for a big pharma company, the other a private clinical psychologist.

SnoopysHoose · 06/11/2024 09:09

I do judge houses with overgrown gardens, it makes the area look awful, miss a trip to the park and tidy it up, a power washer is less than £100. Take pride in the house you're overpaying to own, very very odd attitude towards your home.

Nannyfannybanny · 06/11/2024 08:36

You say you don't have time to do the garden or clean the conservatory, because you work full time,in front of a lap top. You have a cleaner,go out every weekend to parks, because you can't bear being at home, and you don't want a pretty little castle. How long have you been in the property? We have always bought doer uppers,it's the only way we could ever afford to buy,apart from double glazing and driveways we did all the work ourselves. About 6 years ago I got a quote to clean the outside of our conservatory it was £1.300 I was gobsmacked,we bought a pressure washer, already had ladders. Of course you need to do basic maintenance, building societies insist on it it will be in the conditions, because until you pay off the mortgage,it actually belongs to them..

Chipsahoy · 06/11/2024 08:25

We have a Reno project house. Wall outside falling in, roof on barn is in bad shape. Wall down in the house and exposed stone. But it’s obvious it’s a reno. The rooms already done are pristine.
Weve yet to do the kitchen but couldn’t stand to see it in a state so we have painted the cupboards and wrapped the work top. The wrap was £7 a roll in b and q and the paint £30.

i make sure the house is show home like, windows cleaned etc.