Woman’s death could have been due to parked cars

The cars aren't wedged in that tightly and we have front gardens so no front door issues.

I'm not disputing it does happen but I'm saying that in certain circumstances it's possible for the pavement to be wide enough for cars and pedestrians. As I said upthread I have parked with all four wheels on the pavement and it's still possible to get past. I appreciate not everywhere is like that but you seem to think all pavements are narrow and right against the door.

Yes, and where I live does have narrow pavements, but there is still enough room to fit a wheelchair down them - I know because I see it happening every single day when our disabled neighbour goes out.

I'm sorry that doesn't fit your narrative of selfish pavement parkers blocking access for people though!

As always with these threads, people seem to have no idea what parking etc. is like outside of their own area, and are super quick to criticise anyone who tries to explain that many people have no other choice.

Ultimately, the issue is with poor infrastructure and a huge lack of public, off-road parking - not with people who are just parking their cars where they've been told to park them.

I didn't realise you knew where I lived and what happened on my road.

My bad

I'm with you OP. I don't drive, and the pavements around here are all taken up by cars. I often have to walk down the middle of the road. It pisses me off. An ambulance wouldn't be able to fit down some of the roads with parking on both sides.

I didn't say anyone was told to block the pavement, though, did I? I said people were told to park on the pavement. There's still plenty of room for pedestrians etc. to get past safely.

I live on such a street and there are wheelchair and pushchair users going past everyday with absolutely no issues.

Intriguing. Family blames parked cars. Possible. My late DH had a cardiac arrest at home. The ambulance arrived within 4 minutes of my call - but I was not in the room when DH had the arrest, which later caused problems, as we did not know for how long his heart had stopped and one minute is sufficient to cause irreparable damage (he was 78). He died eighteen days later.

My DD spoke continuously to her uncle, a GP, running past him all that was done. He's an experienced GP with lots of contacts in the NHS. His opinion was that given the arrest took place at home the chances of surviving it at all (let alone in any meaningful way) were very poor (DD did not tell me this until after DH's consultant had also told me). Even had the arrest happened in hospital, the survival rate is in single digits.
So, I think the parked cars made little difference to this poor woman's chances of survival, sadly. That does not mean people should not take care to park bearing in mind emergency vehicles may need to get through.

Again it depends. In my road we park on the pavement on one side but it's nothing the like the one in the picture, if it was I agree it wouldn't be suitable. There are some roads, like mine, that have very wide pavements and I would like to see it marked for parking.

Commuting out of London is rather an odd choice to make, I can't imagine it accounts for much of the London traffic. Those who need to fine, but that's not going to be the majority of London car owners.

It's a shame the consultation on pavement parking has been gathering dust in a government drawer for a couple of years.
Those of outside London would like to see a pavement parking ban too.

There is lots of unused space (including supermarket / office car parks) that could be used for parking overnight and as pp said, underground parking could be built for new houses.

So leave the roads free for the people that really need to drive, and that's not everyone

Some people who live in London work outside London where there is no reliable public transport, or work the other side of London to where they live doing shifts.

Oddly was just having a conversation about this with a colleague. My colleague lost a job due to transport issues.

At a previous workplace, which was outside London, any one who could afford to take the train and worked the times of the mini-bus to/from the station so they didn't have to drive was considered privileged.

Thankfully private car ownership is declining in citues like london, where pay as you go car sharing is an option, as well as good public transport

It is often possible. See the example of London above. Why do they need cars at all?

Personally I believe you should park on driveways/car parks only.
If you have neither of the above, don't have a car.

Unfortunately that just isn't possible given UK infrastructure.

Some pavements around here (wide) are signposted up to allow half the car to be parked on them.

I am currently legally parked fully on the pavement.

It is actually a wide road however on the streets where I grew up and another where I previously lived you also legally park half on the pavement but the roads are narrow.

I'm in London where parking on the pavement is legal if indicated to do so by the council. If you actually park fully on the road you get a parking ticket. Some councils where the roads and pavements are narrow allow you to only park on one side of the road while others don't appear to care.

Oh and a lot of people can't actually park near their home due to the number of cars. So it is normal to see people with buggies wheel their kid to their parked car whether they are half parked on the pavement or fully parked on the road.

As has been said several times, there often isn't a choice because there's genuinely nowhere else to go.

Where I live, every single street is the same. To park somewhere without pavement parking, you need a residents permit (which you won't get unless you live on that street - living nearby doesn't count). In the town centre, there's only disc parking in place so you can only stay for an hour. We don't have any public car parks in the town either - you could park at Tesco but you're restricted to two hours, so it's not very useful.

It's all very well saying "if you don't fit, go elsewhere" but that only works when there's actually somewhere else to go, and in many places, there simply isn't.

There are a couple of streets in my town where officially marked parking bays are half on the pavement.

It's a town of narrow streets and old buildings, and most of the town centre was built long before the invention of the car.

Common sense still has to be applied. Just because you can doesn't mean you always should. If you don't fit, you can't park there.