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Reporting historic benefit fraud…

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Poofet · 05/11/2024 12:21

I lived with my friend, her partner and their small child. I started living with them 15 years ago, and lived there for 9 years. I moved out 6 years ago.

To cut a long story short, my friend and I have fallen out due to some pretty poor behaviour over the years on her part. We have had a very on and off again friendship for years. This morning during an argument, she was sending me abusive text messages, and within one I received this morning she has said, ‘You didn’t pay enough rent when you lived with us, so I had to claim as a single mother to support myself through benefits.’

Obviously, this is absurd. I am now worried that I could be implicated in benefit fraud if I do not report it and it somehow gets discovered, I could be considered to have been part of this. Do the DWP / police even care about historic benefit fraud? Is this something I should be reporting to protect myself?

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Poofet · 05/11/2024 17:43

I only came on here to ask if the DWP would care about historical benefit fraud if it ever came to light or if I could somehow be implicated in it.

I don’t care one jot about reporting her but I will do if there’s any chance I could get in trouble, which doesn’t seem likely from the answers on this thread.

tbh I am shocked at the amount of people having a go at me for reporting her (even though I’ve said I’m probably NOT tons of times) and not lambasting a literal criminal who has stolen thousands off the tax payer and is now trying to get me involved it in

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Barrenfieldoffucks · 05/11/2024 17:39

AllYearsAround · 05/11/2024 12:29

You're not really worried, you're petty and want to hurt your former friend!
Her previous benefits claims have no impact on you.

Agreed.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/11/2024 17:28

She gave you somewhere to live for nine years until you could afford to get somewhere on your own. Maybe you could have gone somewhere else and passed credit checks/deposits/the 'do I like you enough to have you in my house for an indefinite period?' check for a lodger for exactly the same money (although I doubt it or you'd have gone there instead), maybe not. Maybe you left exactly when she was ready for you to go or perhaps you outstayed your welcome by several years, maybe not.

In any case, there's absolutely nothing you could get into trouble for - although it could be quite embarrassing to have somebody turning up wanting to get a statement from you if you reported her for fraud and they then chose to take your report seriously and investigate this historical allegation - just like when abusive partners or exes report their ex girlfriend for fraud when they've refused to pay their way or leave, they have nothing to worry about, it's just the woman with the children who gets her income stopped and the criminal prosecution, never the person who committed the financial abuse.

So you can sleep easy without any need to poke a hornet's nest. Just block her and everything is sorted.

Poofet · 05/11/2024 17:09

ThisZippyDenimGoose · 05/11/2024 16:40

You didn’t sign any forms or gain financially. It’s her claim and her responsibility, you didn’t even know what she was claiming so how could you possibly be implicated.

It would be pretty difficult to prove who was living at a property six years ago regardless just on your say so, so even if you do fancy reporting her it’s doubtful to go anywhere anyway. Move on would be my advice.

Thank you

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ThisZippyDenimGoose · 05/11/2024 16:40

You didn’t sign any forms or gain financially. It’s her claim and her responsibility, you didn’t even know what she was claiming so how could you possibly be implicated.

It would be pretty difficult to prove who was living at a property six years ago regardless just on your say so, so even if you do fancy reporting her it’s doubtful to go anywhere anyway. Move on would be my advice.

Poofet · 05/11/2024 16:33

TheShellBeach · 05/11/2024 16:26

Yes, you're right, OP.
You're headed for jail.

It’s not about prison I know that’s unlikely, its about being investigated by the police or having police at my door or cautions, I work in a field where I cannot have any involvement with the police or I’d be immediately dismissed so it’s a worry

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TheShellBeach · 05/11/2024 16:26

Yes, you're right, OP.
You're headed for jail.

Poofet · 05/11/2024 16:23

Ihopeithinkiknow · 05/11/2024 15:51

Why are some posters saying that the OP is the snidey one and just looking for an excuse to grass her ex mate up? Sounds like she is worried that she could get into trouble because her so called friend has made out it's her fault she had to claim as a single mother, it's the ex mate who sounds like a cunt here not the OP and yeah I would ring and question whether or not what she is saying is true. I know full well it's completely on the ex friend but it would be a shame for her threats to come back and bite her on her arse wouldn't it.

This is exactly my worry.

two reasons. If she gets found out will the defence that she had to do it because of me not paying her enough, can that be used against me (I really doubt it). The main reason, can she say I was somehow involved in it. Because if she was doing it the whole 9 years, which she’s implied, that’s thousands of pounds and she’d get in a lot of trouble. And even if she can’t prove I knew at the time (I definitely didn’t) could she say she told me after the fact and I didn’t report it and then I’m in trouble for knowing about her crime and not reporting it. That’s my concern.

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Ihopeithinkiknow · 05/11/2024 15:51

Why are some posters saying that the OP is the snidey one and just looking for an excuse to grass her ex mate up? Sounds like she is worried that she could get into trouble because her so called friend has made out it's her fault she had to claim as a single mother, it's the ex mate who sounds like a cunt here not the OP and yeah I would ring and question whether or not what she is saying is true. I know full well it's completely on the ex friend but it would be a shame for her threats to come back and bite her on her arse wouldn't it.

Normallynumb · 05/11/2024 15:50

Oh and Don't report benefit fraud!!
Why would you do that? Move on

Normallynumb · 05/11/2024 15:48

You'll be fine
She signed her benefit claim and your name isn't on it
She's just being spiteful.
She's not a friend and I would have nothing more to do with her

Locutus2000 · 05/11/2024 15:38

Poofet · 05/11/2024 12:21

I lived with my friend, her partner and their small child. I started living with them 15 years ago, and lived there for 9 years. I moved out 6 years ago.

To cut a long story short, my friend and I have fallen out due to some pretty poor behaviour over the years on her part. We have had a very on and off again friendship for years. This morning during an argument, she was sending me abusive text messages, and within one I received this morning she has said, ‘You didn’t pay enough rent when you lived with us, so I had to claim as a single mother to support myself through benefits.’

Obviously, this is absurd. I am now worried that I could be implicated in benefit fraud if I do not report it and it somehow gets discovered, I could be considered to have been part of this. Do the DWP / police even care about historic benefit fraud? Is this something I should be reporting to protect myself?

The most important thing I've ever learned, is when to walk the fuck away instead of causing yourself more hassle.

You don't have to do anything so don't do anything.

Edit: To clarify, nobody is actually investigating your former friend as things stand?

StormingNorman · 05/11/2024 15:14

You’re not responsible for her benefit claims. Forget about it. Reporting it will only open up a can of worms.

halloumidippers · 05/11/2024 15:12

Reply to the text saying that clearly you had no idea that was going on at the time. Then block her. Honestly as the others have said she'd have to prove eg using written emails or texts between the two of you that you were "in on it". If the dwp haven't investigated to date they won't now. Unless you say something. Just leave it and move on

MumOfOneAllAlone · 05/11/2024 15:07

Everyone has told you just how cruel it would be to report her because you've fallen out. There's some lines that you just don't cross. She didn't commit a crime against you, and you know just how heavy handed the punishments are for benefit fraudsters.

Leave her alone and move on.

Itiswhysofew · 05/11/2024 15:03

Send her a text telling her that if it's true, you'll have no choice but to report her; but if it's not true & she texted it in the heat of the moment, she needs to let you know by text🤷‍♀️. Would that be of any help?

Poofet · 05/11/2024 14:58

I paid the going rent for a bedroom during that time period, I wasn’t sponging off her!she never moaned about money before! Her being upset about money, this is the first time I’ve heard of it, it first time she’s said she had to make this benefits claim to support herself

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graceinspace999 · 05/11/2024 14:56

Just leave it. She’s not going to report herself and you shouldn’t. Apart from it being a mean revenge she’d know it was you.

toomuchfaff · 05/11/2024 14:55

Is it just me or is anyone else seeing the "look what you made me do", like some kind of narc, abusive, blame shifting crap.

They alone are the perpetrators of fraud. Regardless if you lived there, they were the benefit claimant, they ticked the box and signed their name claiming for their children. You weren't the parent, partner, cohabitee living as though married, you werent in a relationship with the claimant. Being a Lodger doesn't count in that scenario, if you had your own sleep space etc.

Cherry8809 · 05/11/2024 14:52

So she helped you out for a DECADE, and that’s how you want to repay her..??

Stop trying to play it off as genuine concern, and be honest with yourself that you’re actually being petty and spiteful, and want to cause issues for her…

30percent · 05/11/2024 14:48

Are you sure you're not the toxic one? First you didnt pay enough rent now you want to get her in trouble for doing what she had to do to pay her rent. You know full well you won't be inplicated

TheShellBeach · 05/11/2024 14:47

Poofet · 05/11/2024 14:09

Thanks everyone who has replied that is reassuring. I will sit on it for the moment. I’m struggling ti shake the sinking feeling

What do you want us to say? That the prison gates will soon be shutting behind you?

😂

BobbyBiscuits · 05/11/2024 14:46

If you want, you can tell the DWP the circumstances in which you were living there. I wouldn't start reporting them for fraud that may not have taken place.
She could easily be saying that just to be cruel or extract sympathy/money.
I personally would do nothing except block her.
You won't get in trouble for benefits fraud as it's nothing to do with your claim. If you even had one.
If she's doing something wrong it's her alone that will get in trouble. If they contact you to check anything just tell the truth.

Wouldthislooksuspicious · 05/11/2024 14:41

MartinCrieffsLemon · 05/11/2024 12:28

Block her and forget about it

This.

Mickey79 · 05/11/2024 14:40

Block her and move on with your life. No reason at all to have anything to do with toxic people.