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Friend barely speaking at mealtimes on holiday?

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CallyT · 04/11/2024 22:28

Friend lives alone so probably isn't used to mealtimes with another person. Old friend of many years.

Usually when we catch up over dinner at home she is chatty and normal.

The first meal or two was fine but the last couple have been painful. She eats very slowly and barely says two words.

She doesn't ask questions and hardly makes eye contact. Tonight I asked if she was ok and she said yes. The only thing time she made conversation was to point out a picture on the restaurant wall and kept talking about it when I tried to change the subject.

AIBU to think as we're on holiday she should be making an effort?

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Plastictrees · 08/11/2024 23:41

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Plastictrees · 08/11/2024 23:40

AliceBunny · 05/11/2024 09:37

This board is crazy sometimes. It is really unusual behaviour to go out with a friend and sit in silence, however much time you have spent together. If the friend has issues where she wants to stay silent during a meal or she is feeling stressed or overwhelmed, the duty is on her to communicate that to a close friend.

I would find it so strange to go out for dinner and a friend stay silent. I would think something was wrong. I have never experienced that in my 50+ years. So many weird explanations on here and calling the OP intense just for expecting conversation.

I completely agree! This thread seems to have brought out those with poor social skills.

I have been away with many different friends, on holidays and prolonged months of travelling and have never experienced silence at meal times to the extent you have described. She sounds painfully lacking in self awareness. I would be wondering if she had any underlying anxiety issues around food. I would perhaps broach the subject again during the day when things are feeling more normal, in a sensitive way to try to avoid her becoming defensive. As an adult the onus is on her to communicate with you if she would prefer to eat separately, and/or to reassure you that she just needs some quiet time. Most people would feel awkward and uncomfortable in this situation. I hope your next trip is with someone more on your wavelength OP!

Voneska · 08/11/2024 23:29

She's fightings demons and has developed an Eating Disorder ( psychlogiçal illness) you know nothing about. Human beings are complex beings, we cant all live like a soap opera. Lives change, things change people. Have some Mercy.

Normallynumb · 08/11/2024 23:23

As she lives alone her social batteries might need a quick recharge
It's different when catching up with a friend at home
I live alone very happily, and would find 24/7 company tiring

Loonaandalf · 08/11/2024 22:48

Couldn’t imagine this, all my friends are chatty and I’ve been away with them and we chat non stop about various topics, laughing, making jokes sometimes serious chat as well. How odd of your friend. I would go mad.

mildlydispeptic · 08/11/2024 22:16

Are you taking every meal together? Would she like to earmark a day, or a half day, for you to each go off and do your own thing? Definitely get a magazine or something to read at the table, or write postcards or something.

BobbyBiscuits · 08/11/2024 22:08

I'd find that awkward but would just keep making conversation. Asking questions, and talking about my own things. I love to chat a lot when eating out. It means I do eat very slowly though.
I don't really know what you can do other than keep the chat going and engage her.
Some people are quieter than others for sure. But hopefully you can find a way round it.

Bluebellsparklypant · 08/11/2024 22:04

I find it difficult because I find silence at meals difficult. I don't mind the occasional lull but it makes me feel like we're not getting along and we haven't fallen out or anything

It might be more a you problem than a her problem. Sometimes you just don’t want to talk like in the same way you like to talk. Just try and relax at mealtimes and not over think it so much

HateLongCovid · 06/11/2024 19:53

Why do some people need to be talking all the time? I love food and when eating it's nice to just concentrate on that. They're with each other 24/7 like a pp said half an hour of nor saying much is surely manageable.

I went on holiday with the mother in law once, lovely lady but talks so much , sometimes I'd pretend to be asleep 😴 just to get a break from it 🙈🤣

downwindofyou · 06/11/2024 18:59

Just say 'I've noticed you like to be quiet at mealtimes. I'm going to go on my phone/read my book so you can enjoy your meal'

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 06/11/2024 18:43

It sounds like she just needs some quiet and doesn’t feel chatty.

Sometimes when I’m really tired (often the case on holiday as my body & mind finally get a break!) I just find conversation exhausting.

id try to just enjoy her company without expecting too much.

GettingThemFromHereToThere · 06/11/2024 18:40

You're probably pissing her off. Perhaps you haven't done anything but living in close quarters all week can make you annoyed with the other person. I struggle with friend holidays for that reason tbh.

ThatGreatMember · 06/11/2024 18:37

Just let the poor woman eat in peace.

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 18:28

you started a thread about going on holiday late october / november… alone

So it was a last minute addition that she joined?

ConstanceM · 05/11/2024 18:27

Why do people want you to choke when they are eating by yabbering away.
I don't take any questions at meal times as I tell folks LOOK; I only ask to be left alone to eat quietly 20mins out of 24hrs.
Breakfast 5 mins
Lunch 5 mins
Dinner 10 mins
WTF is so important that can't wait. Honestly allow people to chew and eat and digest their food in peace.

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 18:27

youre on weight loss injections op…. i’m surprised you’re eating at all from what i have read on mumsnet!

Nanny0gg · 05/11/2024 18:25

PollyPeep · 05/11/2024 10:19

I agree with you when you go out for dinner with a friend as a one-off, but they're on holiday together 24/7. Wouldn't it be strange to be chatting non-stop for that long?! Night after night at a restaurant, day after day, staying together in the same room with no space?

Not strange in the slightest.

Never heard anything like this before

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 18:25

utterly incompatible holiday makers
no right or wrong

Nanny0gg · 05/11/2024 18:24

Tevion321 · 05/11/2024 10:45

I prefer to sit and enjoy my food when eating but that's me

Then do you ever go out to dinner with friends? Or away with them?

Nanny0gg · 05/11/2024 18:23

mindutopia · 05/11/2024 10:15

I think her social battery is fully drained. Suggest you both have a day to go off and do your own things and meet up for dinner.

Honestly, if you’ve been together all day, what else do you have to talk about? I’d probably want to eat in silence too! When dh’s family comes to stay, we are entertaining them all day and by dinner, truly I have no more to say to them.

I have been on holiday with lots of different friends over the years

I don't think I've ever eaten in silence with them

I find the thought quite odd

coxesorangepippin · 05/11/2024 18:19

Sounds tedious

hopeishere · 05/11/2024 18:18

Bring a books or magazine. Or ask if she minds if you leave her to it and go off and do something else.

WorriedRelative · 05/11/2024 17:57

If she's normal chatty and happy other than meal times I would ask her at a different time of day whether everything is OK.

Perhaps she'd like to spend a bit of time separately or to eat in the room occasionally or she just wants a bit of peace.

Hopefully if you are reassured there's nothing wrong you can just agree to take a book/scroll MN and enjoy the quiet.

It can be pretty full on holidaying with a friend and being together all the time.

GabriellaMontez · 05/11/2024 17:16

Yanbu.

Weird thread. Why are people pretending this is normal?!

A woman who usually eats at a normal pace and has a friendly chat, is suddenly eating in silence other than odd comments about a picture.

This must feel quite uncomfortable and I'm not sure how I'd manage it.

SevenKingsMustDie · 05/11/2024 17:11

How's it been today @CallyT ?