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To think friends might come away with me and the kids now I'm a single mum

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Usedtobeslummy · 04/11/2024 21:54

Hi. I've a good group of friends of about 20 years. In those years have been on many hen dos, weddings, holidays. We've stripped wallpaper for each other etc, looked after each other's children. I'd say meet every six weeks and always get together for xmases etc. Trying to say that we like each other and do things for each other.

I've never married so no hen do or wedding for me, but all of them have. I think relevant to say my friends are wealthy by my measure, most with a combined income of 100k and some much more. All couples.

I split up with my ex and asked my friends if they'd do a group hol next year with kids. Yes, they said. I know they are v difficult to arrange but after sending lots of options it's clear it's not happening so I've booked for me and the kids. I wouldn't invite my parents just fyi.

I feel a bit sad about it. I know life is hard, there's never any time, lots of pressures. But I had hoped that someone might come for a few days to soften the blow of first holiday as a single parent / give me company in the evening etc. I also think it would be really good fun! Maybe it's too much to expect. But I feel sad that we've always done a lot for each other, including trips abroad for birthdays or weddings, but this isn't a priority for anyone, when I've never asked anyone to do anything for me before.

YABU - this pity holiday isn't a hen and you're unreasonable to think people should cater for you

YANBU it's fair to make the effort as a one off

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StarDolphins · 04/11/2024 22:27

I went away with 1 couple & the 3 single mums last year! (All the mums friends) I don’t think I’d do it again. I just think others kids & people wanting to do different things makes for a bit of a naff holiday! Camping, yes. Holiday abroad, no.

Addictedtohotbaths · 04/11/2024 22:26

Fidgety31 · 04/11/2024 22:07

ive found that most women don’t want their partner on a holiday where a single mother is around - they see you as a threat .
But hardly any will admit to it.

Or even round for dinner, it’s so cringe how you’re a threat all of a sudden.

PeloMom · 04/11/2024 22:25

Maybe take a cruise? Lots of entertainment for kids and you get to meet people there.

Noseybookworm · 04/11/2024 22:24

Organising a holiday for a large group is tricky - trying to adapt and incorporate everyone's preferences can lead to all sorts of problems! Do you have one particular friend who you could ask rather than a whole group? We always camped with one other couple family and a single mum friend with 3 kids when ours were little. It was great and we took turns cooking and minding the kids etc but I think it would have been harder with more than 3 families.

Sometimeswinning · 04/11/2024 22:23

I’d go with my friend. In your circumstance you’d bet I’d be there. Dh would see me and dc off with a cheery wave as well.

Just because a few replies don’t see it from your point of view does not mean you are wrong. They just wouldn’t do it for their friend.

FreshOrangeJuice · 04/11/2024 22:20

it sounds like you didn’t go on holiday together when you wasn’t single so can’t really expect it now.

off topic but those fb holidays sound like my idea of hell what could go wrong with meeting up with a load of strangers on a holiday 🤔

ChocolatePodge · 04/11/2024 22:20

You might have more luck with others who have DC? I've been away a couple of times with a group of Ds's friends and their parents (some are single, some couples, some only one parent goes, others both). It's worked out pretty well, so nice to have some adults to chill with while the kids have a good time together.

SkaneTos · 04/11/2024 22:19

Maybe it's not about you, perhaps you friends just think that group holidays are too hard work? Group holidays can be great, but they can also be tricky, tricky to manage different expectations, tricky when children in different families have different rules, tricky when some people have more money than others, different taste in food, etc.

MissFizzyPop · 04/11/2024 22:19

Stopsnowing · 04/11/2024 22:10

Look up the single parent travel club on Facebook where single parents arrange cheap group holidays and trips

I'd also recommend this group, I've met and holidayed with other single parents when my child was younger.

F40ish · 04/11/2024 22:19

I am in a similar situation to you and my friends do holiday with me but I don’t push it. I do ask if they’d like to go on holiday to show interest but then I wait until it is suitable for them. I think you can be disappointed but also understand that sometimes the timings just don’t work and you might have to wait until they do. I am very flexible so happy to tag along with what they want.
The only thing I would say is that I’ve created a bit of an issue in that my DC are refusing to go on holiday without other families there as that’s all we’ve done so maybe going on you own is a good thing (although I know it’s harder).

Neveragain35 · 04/11/2024 22:18

I totally agree OP, YANBU. The summer after I split up with exH, the nicest thing some friends did was invite me and the DC with them on holiday. They made out like they’d been given an extra big chalet anyway, so there was a sofa bed for me and the kids bunked up together, but I think they did it on purpose, it was such a lovely gesture.

I also went on a camping holiday a few years later with a friend and her DC, no husband. We had a brilliant time.

On the other hand, holidays are really expensive these days so it depends what type of holiday you mean. I would maybe pick one really close friend, and be really honest about it, and suggest something really easy and cheap, like camping or a big air bnb, or go to London or a big city and book family rooms in a premier inn.

I have also had some fab holidays just me and my DC. I took mine to Barcelona when they were 8 and 6, they are teens now and they still talk about it! We stayed up late and went out for tapas, then when they were asleep I read my book with a glass of wine on the tiny balcony in the hotel room 😊

Usedtobeslummy · 04/11/2024 22:18

Thanks I will try those groups.

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NancyJoan · 04/11/2024 22:14

Trying to arrange a whole group to commit to something is too hard. Diaries don't match up, people need to keep their annual leave for family holidays, nothing suits everyone. Maybe next year just ask the person you are closest to first, then offer it out to the wider group. Or suggest an adults only weekend when your kids are with their dad.

BeatsAntique · 04/11/2024 22:14

But did you used to holiday as a couple/family with other families, when you had a spouse?

In my experience, that will be the difference. I got excluded from families of friends trips once I was a single Mum as well.

PicaK · 04/11/2024 22:13

Campmates - look them up on fb - they do holidays in new forest and in Spain in Oct half term.
Yanbu to be sad but don't let it get you down or affect your friendship.
High Adventure holidays are also marvellous

FennelFan · 04/11/2024 22:12

I don't think it's comparable to a hen weekend. Trying to find something that suits different families and different holiday dates is very different from an adult only weekend. I think stick to your weekends away and find somewhere for just you and kids that suits for holidays abroad.

TwistedWonder · 04/11/2024 22:12

I’ll be honest OP when my son was younger I had a great group of mum friend's but the idea of going on holiday with other peoples kids and spending a week together is my idea of hell.

I really enjoyed my holidays with my DS as a single mum. He was a teen by then so we stayed round the hotel and pool during day then went out for dinner. Later on we’d find a bar with a pool table or music and he’d chat to other teens while I sat with a large wine people watching. I was really anxious the first time but it was a fabulous week of bonding.

IsitaHatOrACat · 04/11/2024 22:10

I would recommend looking at single parent holiday companies or Facebook groups to find like minded people in similar situations

Stopsnowing · 04/11/2024 22:10

Look up the single parent travel club on Facebook where single parents arrange cheap group holidays and trips

Wellingtonspie · 04/11/2024 22:09

Usedtobeslummy · 04/11/2024 22:05

No, not offering to pay.

Some of the hen dos were expensive and definitely not what I would have chosen to do. But I wouldn't have not wanted to join in. It wouldn't have occurred to me to not go.

Yes we have all done camping before but everyone found it quite hard work (which it is) and said never camping again! Have done weekends away in big houses with kids.

What about caravans/lodges/bell tents?

You mention hotel which to me is boring in the U.K. or abroad and I’m not doing a mates holiday aboard

Usedtobeslummy · 04/11/2024 22:08

Have holidayed before with kids and without. More times without.

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Usedtobeslummy · 04/11/2024 22:07

The costs part doesn't really come into it - we'd all pay our way for our own hotel rooms

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Fidgety31 · 04/11/2024 22:07

ive found that most women don’t want their partner on a holiday where a single mother is around - they see you as a threat .
But hardly any will admit to it.

unsync · 04/11/2024 22:06

Did you all holiday together with kids before you were single? If not, it seems like you are using them to cover your costs now that you no longer have a partner to share costs with.

goodkidsmaadhouse · 04/11/2024 22:05

I don’t think YABU OP. I love going on holidays with other families so I’m probably coming at this from a different place, but.

One of our friends was widowed a few years ago and we (I mean me and DH and other mutual friends) always make sure she and her DC have an invite on holidays. They don’t usually take it up but at least she knows that if she wants to holiday with other adults she has the option.