imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

The only way you can "pass" as something is if you are not what you pass as. That's literally what the concept is.

Why do you insist that deception and boundary violation is inherent to a trans identity? Do you not think there are transwomen out there that respect the sex they say they identify as?

I don't think this is supporting transwomen in the way you think it is.

Moreover, do you not think passing is an utterly cruel concept given that the vast majority simply don't? Why would you place a bar so incredibly high? Oh yeah, capitalism that's why. Instead of gender non conforming people rejecting gender altogether, trans ideology makes sure they can be forever attempting to buy their dream with the next "affirmative" surgery.

If you genuinely can't see sex you are unusual - for a woman anyway. It's a survival thing. But of course all humans are different; I have a relative who is face blind. They do accept other people do recognise faces however, and I think you need to accept that most women can tell the sex of someone else, even if you can't.

Is it? I couldn’t tell.

Yes, it is.

There was no need for it. He's clearly a man in the real photos and videos.

That one's AI.

https://x.com/ArtemisRising81/status/1853546077192073625/photo/1

So are photos.

🤔 not too sure if the photo will load…🤞

Men generally can’t pass as women. This has been the case since the beginning of time. People can tell. Eyes are wonderful things.

More sparple.

Khelif isn’t trans and posts continue to be irrelevant to the topic of the thread.

The hate mongering bullshitters such as the press who double down and declare that based on a passport that bears little accuracy in such cases, and this has been known and acknowledged for decades, that a male person is female and should be punching female athletes in the ring?

Is that who you mean?

It is likely that people who are determined to wait for some kind of official press release to be ‘convinced’ will dismiss whatever the source is that is not from Khelif. The original source for this leak is the French reporter, who published on le correspondant site, who published it before Reduxx picked it up. The original source for this leak is not Reduxx. However, they did release the first article about Khelif and Ling in August.

Because of that, it will require talking through what is known from various sources including the boxing federations.

A French site, Le Point
also published Georges Cazorla‘s statement back in August too. That statement was also never actually denied or even countered by any of Khelif’s current management.

As we have seen, there are many people who will not do their own research and feel all too comfortable to denigrate others who have or who will narrow their reading for numerous reasons and then state there is no evidence when this is illogical and is based on narrow and biased sources.

When left wing publications refuse to publish anything such as this in case of being cancelled themselves, there is little hope for getting the message through. This is the world we live in sadly.

Would you know if you met a trans person who passes? They aren't likely to point out they are trans if they don't have to.

You mean reading actual facts?

As if people are even reading that site, never mind believing the hate mongering bullshitters.

Literally never met one trans person who passes. Especially not MtF.

Same. Even the ones who say they pass.

If only we hadn't been so shrill and angry. No-one likes shrill and angry women. We could just have been nice and kind and quiet. Asked politely, that sort of thing.

It’s an absolute disgrace!

Thanks for sharing. What a cheater!

To top it all off, women’s boxing only became an official Olympic sport at the London 2012 Games.
So we had a good … 12 years before it became impossible to compete fairly again.

The IOC is truly disgraceful. Hanging out women to dry. Risking severe injury. Bunch of suits who do not care about lives they are destroying.
Same with many other sports organisations. Just watched ‘It’s All Over’ on Netflix re the Spanish women’s team winning the World Cup. Behaviour of the men in their sports bodies is jaw-droppingly misogynistic.

No, I didn't assume that at all.

Sorry if the question had already been answered - it is a very long thread. To clear up any confusion/ambiguity, I am a fully paid-up "TERF" and I was only questioning the source because I had never heard of Reduxx and wanted to be sure I was quoting something kosher.

He is a cheating sportsman, and his gold medals should be stripped from him.
and Vogue should be bloody ashamed of themselves for putting him on their front cover. Never buying that rag again!

I'm assuming that you're assuming my post was aimed at you personally.

It actually wasn't, hence no quote or tag. I noticed it was ambiguous, and gave you the benefit of the doubt.

However, it was about the 12th post we've had questioning Reduxx's veracity (and that question has been answered) and most of the others were openly hostile about it as a source. Since we all know those people are still watching so they can plop when they feel like it, I decided to make an open comment. And it stands.

Good to know, thanks.

I was involved in a discussion where the "proof" that Imane is female was that "she has never said she is anything other than female" and that "in a country like Algeria your only identity comes from what you were declared to be at birth".

I was told that the information I cited was "dubious" and "unsubstantiated" so I wanted to check how reliable Reduxx is as a source (not that the person who was so quick to dismiss what I said had any idea where I had read it).

Indeed, it's Posie's Party of Women

I believe the Pope is a Terf