imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

That is precisely my point! 😉 the OP’s choice is no better. There hasn’t been a credible source stating that she’s a man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Reductase_2_deficiency

Indeed 🤦‍♀️

Just by looking at him one can easily see he has a strong male body shape.

It’s no surprise he’s genetically a male. (XY)
The medals 🏅 are meaningless as were unfairly won against XX females.

And people said the same thing about Semenya who still to this day declares their 'internal testicles don't make them less of a woman'.

As I said, you can continue to try to discredit the information that is out there.

Would you like to discredit Dr. Ioannis Filippatos (Surgeon, Sport Medicine Doctor, and Ob/Gyn Specialist) and tell us why he is not to be trusted as having faithfully reported the truth?

Or do you now expect a person who has denied permission to publicly release their medical test results to allow these to now be released? It isn't going to happen. And nor should it. We have enough information despite you wishing to caste doubts on what is out there already.

If the information is forced in court, as Semenya's was, then yes, we will know for sure. However, if Khelif wanted to finish all the speculation, Khelif would have allowed the IBC to release the information when they asked to.

Your posting about them being stripped of IOC status is frankly laughable considering the corruption history of the IOC who you have now put in a higher position of reliability than the IBC. Sure, we know the IBC was removed from the position in the IOC because that is how this came about!

FFS! There are posts on this thread that explain the history of the IOC and them allowing males with DSDs into female sports categories because they prioritised inclusion above fairness.

And language accuracy is crucial here. "a woman with a rare medical condition" misleads people to believe that this person is female.

The Mirror celebrity section 😂 and Snopes. Two little articles from 2010. Yeah I really don’t think this is the thread for you.

Not sure what that has to do with a cheating male in women’s sports but you do you.

The ioc knew he was male when they let him beat those women up. They won't remove the medal he stole because his passport has a F on it and that's all the proof of being a woman that the ioc requires

BUT CLOWNFISH

classic case … why though?

I never hear how unfair it is that 7' 6" basketball players have an unfair advantage over 5' 10", regardless of the sex of either.

they have even more of an advantage over 5 foot basketball players too.

you are spectacularly missing the point though.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/so-gaga-has-got-a-cock-after-all-669808
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6-xTF3w1OPk
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lady-gaga/

talking about sources 😉

Exactly. People will come up with anything to excuse cheating males. Surprised they didn't mention Michael Phelps too like has been trotted out.

The safety and right to fair competition of the women opponents should be paramount first and foremost.

Good one. Any other takers?

Deflection. Usually comes after denial. Classic case.

"Khelif failed two sex tests including one he commissioned himself, former trainers say he's a man, men hug and carry him like a man, he's a man."

"NO! NOT CREDIBLE! NOT PROVEN!"

"Credible and proven. He's a man."

"WELL WOT ABOUT SERENA WILLIAMS AND LADY DI THEN!"

Maybe we should start a pool. My money is on Anneka Rice.

If this person has 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, this is a genetic condition which only affects individuals with XY chromosomes.

What definitions of 'woman' and 'man' are you using here?

Any other random, innocent women's names to drag in?

So far we've had Serena Williams, Princess Diana, Lady Gaga, Miranda Hart?

Anyone else to drag in as a distraction?

Exactly. The medical information cannot be released (rightly) without Khelif's consent. Khelif has the results of three chromosome tests, one of them back in 2022. Any of those could be released to the public, or another one done, and that would put the issue to bed, but he is choosing not to do it. Why is that? It doesn't take a huge leap to guess the reason why. Especially as he had a private chromosome test performed, and when he got the results withdrew his appeal against his disqualification from IBA competition, forfeiting results and prize money for that year. If they proved he was a biological female there'd be no reason to do that.

@CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone

Perhaps we are wrong to split sports (if boxing is a sport) into categories based on weight, height, age and sex. Perhaps there is a more inclusive test that would balance out the dis/advantages we're born with

JFC just stop. It's sports. It's competitive. We play with our bodies. The only thing that keeps it safe and fair is division by sex and weight class.

The absolute mental gymnastics to enable these effing men to steal women's rights, wins and money just enrages me.

Women and girls deserve their own spaces, services and sports without men in them.

Beating up females is exactly what it is. And none of us have any idea whether IK lived all/any period of their life as a woman, at what point they discovered the XY chromosome or even how they currently identify. Not that it matters.

Also, the reason you don't hear about unfairness in height is because we don't have different height categories for basketballers. Whereas we do for sex, for weight in some instances, and for disability. That means we need mechanisms to define and measure those things. By all means take to the barricades to argue for height categories in basketball and for the featherweights to fight the heavyweights, but I'm not sure you'll have much company.

She’s a woman with a rare medical condition

He's a man with a rare medical condition that affects males.

😂 I'm not sure this is the thread for you if it reminds you of that (I've never heard anyone said Lady Gaga has a penis).

It's gone a bit weird

She’s a woman with a rare medical condition.

No, it's a male DSD.

He's a man. That is why a pro-woman media organisation is willing to put itself in the line of fire publishing this, but most mainstream media outlets, more captured by the patriarchy, won't.