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Cartwrightandson · 2024-11-04T13:15:56+00:00

A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male. Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis." The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males. https://reduxx.info/algerian-boxer-imane-khelif-has-xy-chromosomes-and-testicles-french-algerian-medical-report-admits/

OuterSpaceCadet · 10/11/2024 09:16

They dont just say show us your blue badge

And even then, blue badges are incredibly difficult to get! And the interview for them could certainly be experienced as unpleasant and creepy (they observe and assess people before and after, not just during the interview) if not actually invasive.

Similarly the DWP will use covert surveillance on people claiming benefits for disability.

But of course when it's a special type of male with big wants, even women discussing the issue is called abusive

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/11/2024 20:14

In the paralympics strict tests for disability classification are applied.

But again, not for sex.

They see no reason to hide their sexism and misogyny. I guess that's a powerful reason for erasing sex...so you can show your total contempt for women and their safety and opportunities while claiming you haven't been sexist because sex doesn't exist. It would be bigoted to make men compete as men, though.

Why does the female category even exist if men can enter it? Purely so men can claim to be women?

commonsense61 · 08/11/2024 19:06

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NonPlayerCharacter · 08/11/2024 18:44

hotoyo · 08/11/2024 15:14

Surely in light of situations such as this the IOC have a duty of care to women to change their current practices in order to prevent a woman from EVER being in a fight with a man??!!!!

It's not the first time. The IOC knows the situation, it's allowed men to compete as women before, it doesn't give a shit. To my knowledge this is the first time it's happened in a sport where it actually endangers women, rather than running or weightlifting or archery, but the IOC knows exactly what's going on and doesn't care. Gutless, witless, misogynistic, worse than useless bastards.

onwardsup4 · 08/11/2024 18:41

hotoyo · 08/11/2024 15:14

Surely in light of situations such as this the IOC have a duty of care to women to change their current practices in order to prevent a woman from EVER being in a fight with a man??!!!!

Yes but that would be like you know logical wouldn't it 🤔

WearyAuldWumman · 08/11/2024 18:21

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/11/2024 18:06

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With my gyne-procedure history, I have limited sympathy for Rutherford’s, or the prostate-havers’, protestations of suffering undignified and invasive procedures.

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Same.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/11/2024 18:06

WearyAuldWumman · 08/11/2024 18:03

And then some men started to cry about prostate exams...

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With my gyne-procedure history, I have limited sympathy for Rutherford’s, or the prostate-havers’, protestations of suffering undignified and invasive procedures.

WearyAuldWumman · 08/11/2024 18:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/11/2024 10:03

But a cheek swab is hardly invasive compared to routine stuff like smear tests and mammograms that women endure in every day life.

As a lot of irritated women on Twitter pointed out in response to Adam Rutherford's wheedling nonsense.

And then some men started to cry about prostate exams...

TheKeatingFive · 08/11/2024 15:16

hotoyo · 08/11/2024 15:14

Surely in light of situations such as this the IOC have a duty of care to women to change their current practices in order to prevent a woman from EVER being in a fight with a man??!!!!

You would think so, wouldn't you?

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hotoyo · 08/11/2024 15:14

Surely in light of situations such as this the IOC have a duty of care to women to change their current practices in order to prevent a woman from EVER being in a fight with a man??!!!!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/11/2024 10:03

But a cheek swab is hardly invasive compared to routine stuff like smear tests and mammograms that women endure in every day life.

As a lot of irritated women on Twitter pointed out in response to Adam Rutherford's wheedling nonsense.

Helleofabore · 08/11/2024 10:03

OuterSpaceCadet · 08/11/2024 09:53

Wow I didn't know that about urine testing. I have many questions about how the fuck that works in practice!!

But a cheek swab is hardly invasive compared to routine stuff like smear tests and mammograms that women endure in every day life.

Apparently it is undignified to have one’s sex category even questioned by those needing to verify category eligibility.

OuterSpaceCadet · 08/11/2024 09:53

Wow I didn't know that about urine testing. I have many questions about how the fuck that works in practice!!

But a cheek swab is hardly invasive compared to routine stuff like smear tests and mammograms that women endure in every day life.

ErinBell01 · 08/11/2024 01:00

PumpkinSpiceMuffins · 04/11/2024 13:23

Just because he has a micropenis does not entitle him to beat up women and steal their sports prizes. Surely they will strip him of the medal he wrongly received now.

The IOC has a get out clause - they said quite clearly that they rely on 'gender' as seen on a passport, and that's what they did. So in their eyes they've done nothing wrong and I doubt they'll be giving medals back anytime soon. I hope they feel thoroughly ashamed but somehow I doubt it.

The IOC is captured by the gender ideologues and must be forced to bring back sex testing. We don't agreed with men in women's sports and the only way to stop it is if we clearly know who is a woman.

murasaki · 07/11/2024 23:59

quantumbutterfly · 07/11/2024 23:58

I'm a bit concerned about naked relay racing though.

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Pass the baton could go horribly wrong

quantumbutterfly · 07/11/2024 23:58

HaddyAbrams · 07/11/2024 22:05

DS2 thinks we should go back to how the Olympics were originally in ancient Greece. Naked men competing. He does think there should also be a female category.
It would be easy to see 99.9% of people's biological sex then!

I'm a bit concerned about naked relay racing though.

HaddyAbrams · 07/11/2024 22:05

DS2 thinks we should go back to how the Olympics were originally in ancient Greece. Naked men competing. He does think there should also be a female category.
It would be easy to see 99.9% of people's biological sex then!

NewstartOct2024 · 07/11/2024 21:04

nolongersurprised · 07/11/2024 20:07

I agree. If you are wanting to compete in a protected (female) criteria it’s fine for your eligibility to be questioned.

Or - like the majority of athletes want - they could bring back the screening cheek swab. And if you are XY and are androgen sensitive (have gone through a male puberty) you’re ineligible. Compete in the men’s category, or call it “open” or whatever.

Bearing in mind that in competition urinary drug testing means that the tester needs to actually see the urine leave the competitor’s urethra. If you’re competing at that level some aspects of privacy are overridden by the importance of fair competition.

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Totally this. He's a man, and knows he is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/11/2024 20:34

I agree. If you are wanting to compete in a protected (female) criteria it’s fine for your eligibility to be questioned.

Or - like the majority of athletes want - they could bring back the screening cheek swab. And if you are XY and are androgen sensitive (have gone through a male puberty) you’re ineligible. Compete in the men’s category, or call it “open” or whatever.

Bearing in mind that in competition urinary drug testing means that the tester needs to actually see the urine leave the competitor’s urethra. If you’re competing at that level some aspects of privacy are overridden by the importance of fair competition.

Exactly this.

NewstartOct2024 · 07/11/2024 20:17

🤣

nolongersurprised · 07/11/2024 20:07

murasaki · 07/11/2024 11:58

I think if you've put yourself in the shop window of the Olympics, your privacy regarding your chromosomes should be discounted.

Khelif is refusing to prove they are a woman because, well, he can't. if he was, he would and the furore would all go away.

I agree. If you are wanting to compete in a protected (female) criteria it’s fine for your eligibility to be questioned.

Or - like the majority of athletes want - they could bring back the screening cheek swab. And if you are XY and are androgen sensitive (have gone through a male puberty) you’re ineligible. Compete in the men’s category, or call it “open” or whatever.

Bearing in mind that in competition urinary drug testing means that the tester needs to actually see the urine leave the competitor’s urethra. If you’re competing at that level some aspects of privacy are overridden by the importance of fair competition.

CowboyJoanna · 07/11/2024 19:55

Chersfrozenface · 07/11/2024 19:50

That's not what the leaked report says.

"Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis.""

Lots of normal men have tinky winkies

Katkins17 · 07/11/2024 19:51

Yep...it's as if we're all surprised !

Chersfrozenface · 07/11/2024 19:50

That's not what the leaked report says.

"Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis.""

CowboyJoanna · 07/11/2024 19:43

KimberleyClark · 07/11/2024 19:18

As in, he doesn’t have internal testes and a micropenis but normal male genitalia?

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Exactly