imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

There is a young male that lives close by and I see that male walking in a group of older teens. Even dressed very similar to the female people with skirts and jumpers, you can tell from a distance because of gait and upper body movement.

Considering it was Reduxx that broke the story back in August that forced two boxing organisations to confirm that two male boxers had failed sex testing and had still been allowed to box in the Olympics, I am not sure why you feel they are unreliable. Plus we ended up with Georges Cazorla leaking more information that has then resulted in this further leak.

And finally forced the IOC to make several public statements that actually never once disproved what Reduxx reported, I am not sure why you think that Reduxx are not credible. Or is it just that you want them to be not credible.

Would you like to post any other article from Reduxx that you can prove is false? Show us their false reporting from the past?

Or is it that you don’t know Reduxx? Is that it?

You can see a feminine man, or masculine woman and still know what sex they are, humans are good at determining what we see, especially women, it's what keeps us safe from predators(men) so I trust my eyes and what I saw then and what I see now is still a man.

I see beautiful feminine men but they are men, no matter how feminine. Is that not so?

Again, absolutely they are. And in the 80s/90s this wasn't controversial.

I spotted a transwoman from behind at a distance in a group of women walking down the street . They were all wearing the same skirt as part of a work uniform. His gait, his body shape totally gave it away.

For goodness sake! If you ‘don’t trust your eyes’ then you really have been gaslight in to oblivion.

I think some could do with a reread of 1984. Freedom is slavery, war is peace, men are women.

And by that female gait is still female gait and their skeletal proportions are still female and hips and q-angles etc.

I spent a largely happy summer this year in a city with a great many trans people and the transmen were very obvious to me. Facial hair and clothing did nothing to disguise lack of height, small hands and feet, facial bone structure, fat distribution of buttocks and hips, and as you say gait.
Unfortunately quite a high percentage also had noticeable self harm scarring on their arms.

It was sickening to watch and the commentary especially in the final was so uncomfortable. They knew and they were tying themselves into knots to appease their conscience about what they were condoning.

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Yes, that is true. But the person I quoted stated that it is the reason female amateur boxers wear head guards, and male ones don't. And that is not true.

But this is my point. I don’t trust eyes, I see beautiful feminine men but they are men, no matter how feminine. Is that not so?

Ah yes Reduxx dot info. Noted news source. Honestly, people need to be looking at where they get their news from.

It originally comes from a French investigative journalist who has written for the Guardian before.

Are you suggesting that they made up a medical report produced by two major hospitals and sent to the IOC ahead of the Olympics? And also made up the previous evidence of his testosterone levels, failed sex tests and competition bans for being male that corroborate the report? Not to mention all the other supporting evidence we see with our own eyes?
Interesting.

Perhaps you have trouble and now just assume that everyone is like you.

I said this when the olympics were on and we were discussing it on here:
Watching him fight(cheat), watching him move, my eyes saw it all, my brain said male. Especially seeing him next to the other women it was just so obvious to me (and millions of others) that was a man. Have you watched him fight? What did your eyes tell you?

@user1471500282 or do you mean trans woman... ie someone born male?

Sorry, mistyped, for clarity I thought it was a man, presenting as a woman.

Female people do have less dense bones. And they have a much higher risk of concussion due to having more delicate brain fibres and weaker necks to protect from
impact. The Swansea uni study discusses this.

@user1471500282 if you thought someone was a "trans man" then you knew they were female...

Or do you mean 'trans woman'?

You don't seem to understand the subject you're arguing very well.

If you thought she was a trans man then you did know she was female.

I have. An older post menopausal woman I thought was trans woman. I was younger working on a checkout and she came in all the time. Full sure she was a man. But she wasn’t. She lived nearby and one of the other girls knew her. I got a right dressing down which I deserved. And I live in a small
conservative place. I’m sure in a place like London I’d be unsure a lot more.

It really isn’t ’they look like a man’. It is the analysis our minds do to filter male body cues. And it doesn’t have to be everyone doing it 100% right all the time. For instance, it can require hearing a voice and seeing a person move in real life. It is also more reliable that female people pick up male body cues and not necessarily female people on testosterone. And by that female gait is still female gait and their skeletal proportions are still female and hips and q-angles etc.

Luckily, boxing doesn’t allow for heavily scripted moves and photoshopped imagery. It is very clear in the leverage points of those punches and Khelif’s stance .

So, no. Not based on ‘looks’.

I have a few times. That's just about the limits of my perception of course. It doesn't change biology. But it does happen occasionally.

And this is in the flesh, not enhanced with all the things men think they need to do to "pass". Unfiltered images if you like?